The Games => Quest for Infamy => Topic started by: bussiere on July 21, 2014, 07:10:53 PM
Title: Achievement for cheater ?
Post by: bussiere on July 21, 2014, 07:10:53 PM
In my second i amused myself with some memory edit for the game.
As incredible amount of gold etc ...
Why not putting an achievement as "Probably a cheater" when you do it ?
In my knowledge no game did that.
Could be fun :)
Title: Re: Achievement for cheater ?
Post by: Sslaxx on July 22, 2014, 07:35:12 AM
And the game still ran? I've noticed it can get very unstable trying to hack things.
Honestly, any kind of "achievement" for hacking could be done thus: attributes clearly should not be able to go above a certain value (100). So any attribute over 100 could be reset (when detected on game load) to 1.
Title: Re: Achievement for cheater ?
Post by: Klytos on July 22, 2014, 07:37:54 AM
Hacking AGS is always going to be a challenge. Not because it's difficult but because the engine itself is crazy complicated in the way it's scripted, any change is as likely to fail as to work.
Title: Re: Achievement for cheater ?
Post by: bussiere on July 22, 2014, 07:43:52 AM
Just suggesting that if you have a value "unatural" make a little achievement.
This is just a suggestion.
On my second run i give myself lot of gold and crazy stats ... (whit game conqueror).
I can put a screen capture if needed.
Just that with a game whose title is Quest for infamy this kind of achievement could be a funny thing.
Bussiere
Title: Re: Achievement for cheater ?
Post by: Insaniac99 on July 22, 2014, 10:50:57 AM
I see no need to do this for two solid reasons:
1: it is a single player game and while I did not cheat, cheating hurts no one
2: there are many people that spend time to get every achievement in a game and have a "negative" achievement like this would annoy many.
Title: Re: Achievement for cheater ?
Post by: bussiere on July 22, 2014, 10:54:33 AM
not a negative one.
It's quest for infamy being bad is good so.
You can make one as "winning by all mean."
Making one in a humoristic way. We talk about quest for infamy so
Title: Re: Achievement for cheater ?
Post by: miriya on July 22, 2014, 12:21:53 PM
If there were an in-game way of hacking stats, like Quest for Glory's blue frog debug mode, then an achievement might make sense. However, it's not really fair to have an achievement that relies on doing something outside of the game with software not everyone has.
Title: Re: Achievement for cheater ?
Post by: Myrddin Starfari on July 22, 2014, 08:05:34 PM
has anybody tried 'feed BT marmite' yet, that sounds like a more QFI version of the blue frog, unless I'm misremembering the earlier theme.
Title: Re: Re: Achievement for cheater ?
Post by: bussiere on July 22, 2014, 08:17:19 PM
If there were an in-game way of hacking stats, like Quest for Glory's blue frog debug mode, then an achievement might make sense. However, it's not really fair to have an achievement that relies on doing something outside of the game with software not everyone has.
Did i say that the achievement should be negative ?
There are multiple impediments to doing such an achievement and the sole purpose of the achievement would basically announce to other players that you have a memory editor on your system and know how to use it. With the massive negative feelings that others have on such things (especially the online gaming community) there is no way to really make it positive.
Title: Re: Achievement for cheater ?
Post by: Klytos on July 23, 2014, 04:04:44 AM
It's a unique idea and I like it for that reason alone.
But the point of achievements in my view is to give players something to strive for. If they can't obtain that except by hacking a game I really think it does those players a disservice.
Title: Re: Achievement for cheater ?
Post by: Myrddin Starfari on July 23, 2014, 07:44:46 AM
what about when you get something you shouldn't know about yet
Title: Re: Achievement for cheater ?
Post by: miriya on July 23, 2014, 11:13:49 PM
On subsequent playthroughs I tried
Is there a blue frog-equivalent easter egg anywhere in QFI?
Title: Re: Re: Achievement for cheater ?
Post by: Lambonius on July 23, 2014, 11:20:43 PM
Plus the masters one has different responses depending on whether you know about the seal or not.
I noticed that! I appreciate that attention to detail, especially since in adventure games you're supposed to try to get anything that's not nailed down (and in this game, even some things that are!).
Title: Re: Re: Achievement for cheater ?
Post by: Blackthorne on July 25, 2014, 12:45:36 PM
Plus the masters one has different responses depending on whether you know about the seal or not.
I noticed that! I appreciate that attention to detail, especially since in adventure games you're supposed to try to get anything that's not nailed down (and in this game, even some things that are!).
We tried to make sure we got stuff like that - believe me! The team, while testing, made sure that I put a lot of that stuff in!! So thank Lamb, Dr. Slash, Chucklas and Corrigan for that stuff!