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Title: Quest For Gory 4.5 inspired this?
Post by: Bad2DaBone on January 30, 2013, 03:24:25 PM
http://www.curlysworldoffreeware.com/games/view/238 (http://www.curlysworldoffreeware.com/games/view/238)


That's kind of cool.

I was wondering but, how do you play QFG 4.5?  I have no clue how to run it in dosbox or anything.
Title: Re: Quest For Glory 4.5 inspired this?
Post by: Goatmeal on January 30, 2013, 04:34:23 PM
[url]http://www.curlysworldoffreeware.com/games/view/238[/url] ([url]http://www.curlysworldoffreeware.com/games/view/238[/url])


That's kind of cool.

I was wondering but, how do you play QFG 4.5?  I have no clue how to run it in dosbox or anything.


Our good friend Mr. Blake00 has everything you'd want to know about QFG4½ at Blake's Sanctum -- or at least everything worth knowing -- including how to set it up for play:

Blake's Sanctum -- home page
http://webspace.webring.com/people/ed/d_blakeley/Games/QFGSeries/QFGSeriesIndex.html (http://webspace.webring.com/people/ed/d_blakeley/Games/QFGSeries/QFGSeriesIndex.html)

Blake's Sanctum -- QFG4½ page
http://webspace.webring.com/people/ed/d_blakeley/Games/QFGSeries/QFG45/QFG45.html (http://webspace.webring.com/people/ed/d_blakeley/Games/QFGSeries/QFG45/QFG45.html)
Title: Re: Quest For Gory 4.5 inspired this?
Post by: Bad2DaBone on January 30, 2013, 05:39:27 PM
I read his FAQ...



"4. How To Get The Game Working On Modern Machines
*******************************************************************************************************************
The game is designed with a 1999 early version of the all mighty AGS engine, it’s also rumoured to be very poorly scripted so unfortunately it’s bug central and a nightmare to run on modern machines.

The well known DOS version is more so the nightmare. I remember getting it work in 2002ish which I’m pretty sure was in WinXP yet in 2010 I just couldn’t get it to work on my WinXP machine. It’s possible my memory is tricking me as I did have a XP/Win98 multiboot machine back then and may have switched to Win98 to play the game. Some people have had success using Vdmsound however unfortunately I did not have any luck. Due to some strange DOS32 errors it also currently does not work in DosBox either. Only suggestion for the DOS version I can make is to download Microsoft Virtual PC and install Windows 98 on it, or build up a real Windows 98 computer and try the game in there.

Anyway, fortunately I then heard in various forums that a rare Windows version of the game existed! It took me a while but in the end one site out there Curly's World Of Freeware had it and hopefully more will have it soon as it becomes more widely known. However even the Windows version wasn’t fun to get working as the Windows AGS 2.30.221 setup uses a not so simple DOS batch file which ultimately adds an extra setup command to QFG.exe. Unfortunately modern OS’s don’t like a lot of the old batch operations so it doesn’t work. Fortunately creating a Windows shortcut to the game’s exe, going into its properties and placing the extra  --setup  command in the shortcut’s Target field just after QFG.exe (eg QFG.exe --setup.exe) instead works and allowed me to setup sound & resolution making the game work! I recommend 640x480 for best look and compatibility (320x200 doesn’t work on most modern machines and 960x600 was stretched & blocky!). Another way I’ve heard is to take a setup.exe file from another old AGS game and put it in your QFG4.5 directory and rename QFG.exe to the other game’s main exe file allowing you to setup the game, however my way of simply creating & modifying a windows shortcut is so much easier!

While attempting to get some walkthrough help in several AGS/QFG forums I inadvertently restarted interest in the forums at Infamous Adventures and AGD Interactive in upgrading the game to the latest AGS version hopefully fixing a lot of the games issues. At the time of writing this there was still debate about how to attempt this as there are many hurdles. If a new version is released I’ll be making sure the games various hosting sites are informed of it & that this walkthrough is updated too!"


But to be perfectly honest, I'm still completely confused!  I barely know how to use dosbox as it is...

In simple dumb guy terms that even Forest Gump could understand, how exactly do I get this game to work in dosbox or wherever?
Title: Re: Quest For Gory 4.5 inspired this?
Post by: Goatmeal on January 30, 2013, 08:09:42 PM
I could be quite wrong, but if I recall reading about it, the game has more bugs than a bait store, and trying to get it working even using DOSBox is a nightmare...

Sorry I can't be of more help, as I've never had an interest in playing it myself.

Here are two videos from Blake --  The Intro (Part 1 of 2)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6kWilpw4KQI# (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6kWilpw4KQI#)

and a Quick Tour of the valley (Part 2 of 2)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f1gAedOZ3iI# (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f1gAedOZ3iI#)
Title: Re: Quest For Gory 4.5 inspired this?
Post by: Bad2DaBone on January 30, 2013, 08:27:27 PM
Man, that game does look hellaciously funny.
Title: Re: Quest For Gory 4.5 inspired this?
Post by: Collector on January 30, 2013, 08:40:55 PM
But to be perfectly honest, I'm still completely confused!  I barely know how to use dosbox as it is...

In simple dumb guy terms that even Forest Gump could understand, how exactly do I get this game to work in dosbox or wherever?

You can't. It is so poorly scripted and the old AGS DOS engine was pretty quirky. It won't even start if you do not have CWSDPMI in the folder. With it, the game crashes while initializing. Just download the Windows version. Be warned, it is not a very good game. Earlier versions were full of bad racist jokes and questionable, not very funny humor.

Also, there are far better games out there. GOG has all 5 original QfG games available for about $10US. AGDI had a QfGII VGA remake for free http://www.agdinteractive.com/games/qfg2/homepage/homepage.html (http://www.agdinteractive.com/games/qfg2/homepage/homepage.html)
Title: Re: Quest For Gory 4.5 inspired this?
Post by: Klytos on January 30, 2013, 08:44:15 PM
The easiest way to use DosBox is to put an icon to it on the desktop and then just drag the executable file for whatever game you're wanting to play onto the DosBox icon.

Personally, I think it's a great little game, very funny (although quite bad taste at times.) But that appeals to me at times. I'll add that while Steve and I both enjoyed a laugh at QFG4.5, QFI is not in the slightest based on, or inspired by it.
Title: Re: Quest For Gory 4.5 inspired this?
Post by: Bad2DaBone on January 30, 2013, 11:25:27 PM
The easiest way to use DosBox is to put an icon to it on the desktop and then just drag the executable file for whatever game you're wanting to play onto the DosBox icon.

Personally, I think it's a great little game, very funny (although quite bad taste at times.) But that appeals to me at times. I'll add that while Steve and I both enjoyed a laugh at QFG4.5, QFI is not in the slightest based on, or inspired by it.

Still no luck playing this.  Maybe I should contact that Blake guy?


Also, bad racist jokes?    Who would make something like that.....




THIS GAME SOUNDS AWESOME!
Title: Re: Quest For Gory 4.5 inspired this?
Post by: sickfiction on January 31, 2013, 12:47:18 AM
noone likes racist jokes unless they're post-ironic but seriously the music was pretty good!
Title: Re: Quest For Gory 4.5 inspired this?
Post by: Klytos on January 31, 2013, 07:51:48 AM
Wasn't the music all lifted from other games too?
Title: Re: Quest For Gory 4.5 inspired this?
Post by: sickfiction on January 31, 2013, 09:56:21 AM
oh I don't know about that.. That is naughty.
Title: Re: Quest For Gory 4.5 inspired this?
Post by: Collector on January 31, 2013, 01:11:04 PM
As I said, the DOS version will not run in DOSBox. Just get the Windows version that is linked on that page.
Title: Re: Quest For Gory 4.5 inspired this?
Post by: Bad2DaBone on January 31, 2013, 08:17:08 PM
Got the Windows version.  Still not working by itself.  Now then...


"Anyway, fortunately I then heard in various forums that a rare Windows version of the game existed! It took me a while but in the end one site out there Curly's World Of Freeware had it and hopefully more will have it soon as it becomes more widely known. However even the Windows version wasn’t fun to get working as the Windows AGS 2.30.221 setup uses a not so simple DOS batch file which ultimately adds an extra setup command to QFG.exe. Unfortunately modern OS’s don’t like a lot of the old batch operations so it doesn’t work. Fortunately creating a Windows shortcut to the game’s exe, going into its properties and placing the extra  --setup  command in the shortcut’s Target field just after QFG.exe (eg QFG.exe --setup.exe) instead works and allowed me to setup sound & resolution making the game work! I recommend 640x480 for best look and compatibility (320x200 doesn’t work on most modern machines and 960x600 was stretched & blocky!). Another way I’ve heard is to take a setup.exe file from another old AGS game and put it in your QFG4.5 directory and rename QFG.exe to the other game’s main exe file allowing you to setup the game, however my way of simply creating & modifying a windows shortcut is so much easier!"



"Fortunately creating a Windows shortcut to the game’s exe, going into its properties and placing the extra  --setup  command in the shortcut’s Target field just after QFG.exe (eg QFG.exe --setup.exe) instead works and allowed me to setup sound & resolution making the game work! I recommend 640x480 for best look and compatibility (320x200 doesn’t work on most modern machines and 960x600 was stretched & blocky!)."

 
I'm still lost.  In complete idiot-speak that even I could comprehend, could someone please explain what he's saying to do here?  I renamed the "QFG.exe" file to "QFG.exe --setup.exe" without any luck. :(
Title: Re: Quest For Gory 4.5 inspired this?
Post by: Collector on February 01, 2013, 12:48:22 PM
The problem is that modern graphics can't do 32x200, which is what the setup defaults to. Create an empty file named ACSETUP.CFG. Past the following into it.

Code: [Select]
[sound]
digiindx=0
digiid=-1
midiindx=7
midiid=1297110304

[misc]
screenres=1

and save it in the game's folder.l
Title: Re: Quest For Gory 4.5 inspired this?
Post by: Bad2DaBone on February 02, 2013, 11:36:07 PM
Okay, we're getting closer to me understanding this, thank you.


I tried making a copy of a random cfg file, then I opened it in Notepad.  I replaced everything inside with...


"Code: [Select]

[sound]
digiindx=0
digiid=-1
midiindx=7
midiid=1297110304

[misc]
screenres=1
"

I still can't get it to work, what else do I need to do or what am I doing wrong?  Again, you gotta give me directions like I'm Forest Gump on this, lol.


(note- i just played QFG1 again!  I'm looking forward to this game even if it is kinda stupid, for no other reason than to do something with that log, go into the graveyard crypt, into the mountain pass and maybe climb up the castle.)
Title: Re: Quest For Gory 4.5 inspired this?
Post by: Collector on February 03, 2013, 06:26:10 PM
The Windows setup fails on modern Windows and the DOS version does not run in DOSBox. Try this:

The game will fail to load, but it will create the config file that can be used with the Windows version. Just copy the config from the DOS version to the Windows version's folder. The game should be able to start.
Title: Re: Quest For Gory 4.5 inspired this?
Post by: Sslaxx on February 26, 2013, 09:46:52 AM
Okay, we're getting closer to me understanding this, thank you.


I tried making a copy of a random cfg file, then I opened it in Notepad.  I replaced everything inside with...


"Code: [Select]

[sound]
digiindx=0
digiid=-1
midiindx=7
midiid=1297110304

[misc]
screenres=1
"

I still can't get it to work, what else do I need to do or what am I doing wrong?  Again, you gotta give me directions like I'm Forest Gump on this, lol.


(note- i just played QFG1 again!  I'm looking forward to this game even if it is kinda stupid, for no other reason than to do something with that log, go into the graveyard crypt, into the mountain pass and maybe climb up the castle.)

You copied literally everything - including parts of the forum post.

Anyway, http://sslaxx.twu.net/acsetup.cfg (http://sslaxx.twu.net/acsetup.cfg) should be what you need.
Title: Re: Quest For Gory 4.5 inspired this?
Post by: DeadSuperHero on March 01, 2013, 01:02:49 PM
Quest for Glory 4 1/2 was hysterical. It ripped off heavily from the official series and several other Sierra titles (possibly even a few LucasArts ones), but it was a great parody.
Title: Re: Quest For Gory 4.5 inspired this?
Post by: Bad2DaBone on March 07, 2013, 05:18:05 PM
Okay, we're getting closer to me understanding this, thank you.


I tried making a copy of a random cfg file, then I opened it in Notepad.  I replaced everything inside with...


"Code: [Select]

[sound]
digiindx=0
digiid=-1
midiindx=7
midiid=1297110304

[misc]
screenres=1
"

I still can't get it to work, what else do I need to do or what am I doing wrong?  Again, you gotta give me directions like I'm Forest Gump on this, lol.


(note- i just played QFG1 again!  I'm looking forward to this game even if it is kinda stupid, for no other reason than to do something with that log, go into the graveyard crypt, into the mountain pass and maybe climb up the castle.)

You copied literally everything - including parts of the forum post.

Anyway, [url]http://sslaxx.twu.net/acsetup.cfg[/url] ([url]http://sslaxx.twu.net/acsetup.cfg[/url]) should be what you need.


I'm still incredibly lost...


http://sslaxx.twu.net/acsetup.cfg (http://sslaxx.twu.net/acsetup.cfg)


What exactly do I need to do with what's in this link to play the game?  I'm sorry, but I'm a complete idiot at computer stuff.

If anyone has a playable copy they could put up online for dl, I'd love to play it.


I had a dream about this game last night that my character was being chased in the forest at night by badass monsters and while it was happening it kind of reminded me of Quest for Infamy for some reason.
Title: Re: Quest For Gory 4.5 inspired this?
Post by: Collector on March 07, 2013, 11:58:54 PM
just drop it in the game's folder.
Title: Re: Quest For Gory 4.5 inspired this?
Post by: Bad2DaBone on March 08, 2013, 12:16:57 PM
just drop it in the game's folder.

Please elaborate.  What do I do exactly?  I tried copying that text into a random cfg file and putting it into the game's folder but, it had no effect.

I'm an idiot when it comes to computer.  If anyone can make a dl with a windows-ready playable copy of 4.5, I'll be mucho appreciado.
Title: Re: Quest For Gory 4.5 inspired this?
Post by: Blackthorne on March 08, 2013, 12:27:56 PM
Right click on the link to this file. 

http://sslaxx.twu.net/acsetup.cfg (http://sslaxx.twu.net/acsetup.cfg)

Click "Save As...." and save it in the game directory. It should work.  If it doesn't then I guess you'll never get to play QFG 4.5


Bt
Title: Re: Quest For Gory 4.5 inspired this?
Post by: Goatmeal on March 08, 2013, 12:30:19 PM
just drop it in the game's folder.

Please elaborate.  What do I do exactly?  I tried copying that text into a random cfg file and putting it into the game's folder but, it had no effect.

What I believe Collector is saying is:

1. Download the file (Right-click and "Save Link As...")

2. Move that file to the folder that contains the games data.  As you have not stated what type of operating system you are running (Windows 8 / 7 / Vista / XP / ME / 2000 / 98 / 95 / Win 3.1 ), it may be in a different folder location...

NOTE:

A. Do NOT copy the data into a new file or change the name of the file in any way.  The game SPECIFICALLY looks for the file named "acsetup.cfg" that Sslaxx has posted.
Title: Re: Quest For Gory 4.5 inspired this?
Post by: Bad2DaBone on March 08, 2013, 12:33:57 PM
It did not work!

BUT-

http://webspace.webring.com/people/ed/d_blakeley/Games/QFGSeries/QFG45/QFG45.html (http://webspace.webring.com/people/ed/d_blakeley/Games/QFGSeries/QFG45/QFG45.html)

"Updates:
• In Feb 2013 I was informed by a big QFG4.5 fan that they have successfully ported QFG4.5 to the latest version of AGS (many have tried but this person is the first to do it successfully!) and fixed most of its bugs (yes you can even play poker now!). They’ve contacted me to assist them with ironing out the various remaining bugs and flaws in the game and I’m helping as best as I can. When they release the new and improved QFG4.5 I’ll make sure I update this page! And I’ll have to re-write my bloody walkthrough again lol! "


I shall simply wait for the superior fixed version to come out that is easier to play and set up and that has bonus goodies in the game even vets of it like you have not played!  Hahaha!

(I wonder if anyone from this topic e-mail that guy)
Title: Re: Quest For Gory 4.5 inspired this?
Post by: Blackthorne on March 08, 2013, 12:36:32 PM
Well, the guy who runs that site, Blake, is a friend of mine.

And I've owned the QFG 4.5 source code for years.


Bt
Title: Re: Quest For Gory 4.5 inspired this?
Post by: Bad2DaBone on March 08, 2013, 12:40:05 PM
Oh cool!  Just my luck I find out that a superior fixed version is coming out while I'm having trouble playing the broken version!  ;D


I hope QFG 4.5 comes out before Infamy, I wonder what the release date is?


Oh, one question- how high do stats go in this game?  Can you import to it from after QFG 4?  And do you retain any weapons/items for this game?
Title: Re: Quest For Gory 4.5 inspired this?
Post by: Blackthorne on March 08, 2013, 12:43:11 PM
No, the game is an absolute parody.  There are no real stats, there are to weapons or items of any note to retain - and you can't export your character.  This isn't a real game, you know.  It's a parody.  It takes the piss out of QFG.


Bt
Title: Re: Quest For Gory 4.5 inspired this?
Post by: Goatmeal on March 08, 2013, 12:55:47 PM
B2DB --

"You may find that having is not so pleasing a thing as wanting.  This is not logical, but it is often true."
     -- Spock, giving advice to Stonn in Star Trek's 1967 episode "Amok Time"

You've certainly built-up hype about this game for yourself so much that I'm afraid once you finally DO get to play it, you be all like, "Meh," and it'll be a tremendous let-down...   ???

There's nothing to fear, however; when QFI's full game is finally released, it will once again restore your faith in computer gaming...   ;D
Title: Re: Quest For Gory 4.5 inspired this?
Post by: nidoking on March 08, 2013, 05:35:20 PM
Or, to paraphrase XKCD:

"When I start the program, it just shows Hitler's face with glowing red eyes and erases all the data on my hard drive."
"Meh. Still better than Quest for Glory 4.5."
Title: Re: Quest For Gory 4.5 inspired this?
Post by: Myrddin Starfari on March 08, 2013, 06:28:26 PM
it wasn't that bad. I didn't have to schedule a lobotomy
Title: Re: Quest For Gory 4.5 inspired this?
Post by: Bad2DaBone on March 08, 2013, 06:37:55 PM
just drop it in the game's folder.

Please elaborate.  What do I do exactly?  I tried copying that text into a random cfg file and putting it into the game's folder but, it had no effect.

What I believe Collector is saying is:

1. Download the file (Right-click and "Save Link As...")

2. Move that file to the folder that contains the games data.  As you have not stated what type of operating system you are running (Windows 8 / 7 / Vista / XP / ME / 2000 / 98 / 95 / Win 3.1 ), it may be in a different folder location...

NOTE:

A. Do NOT copy the data into a new file or change the name of the file in any way.  The game SPECIFICALLY looks for the file named "acsetup.cfg" that Sslaxx has posted.

How do I figure out what system I'm running it in?

I tried putting the file in the folder that appeared when I unzipped the dlable zip file, but nothing happens when I try to then open it with the qfg.exe file.
Title: Re: Quest For Gory 4.5 inspired this?
Post by: asianmusicguy on March 08, 2013, 11:59:36 PM
well  i played it way back when i did not care for it one bit
and QFI is way above QFG 4.5 on every single level in fact the time i had qFG 4.5 i haf to reformat because it gave me a virus not even kidding
Title: Re: Quest For Gory 4.5 inspired this?
Post by: Goatmeal on March 09, 2013, 09:39:00 AM

How do I figure out what system I'm running it in?



Right-click on "My Computer" (if you have that on your desktop), then Left-click on "Properties."

Alternately, you can use this link from Microsoft:

http://windows.microsoft.com/is-is/windows/which-operating-system (http://windows.microsoft.com/is-is/windows/which-operating-system)
Title: Re: Quest For Gory 4.5 inspired this?
Post by: Bad2DaBone on March 09, 2013, 01:55:36 PM
Alright so I'm operating Windows 7....

What do I have to do then to set up the game?

"2. Move that file to the folder that contains the games data.  As you have not stated what type of operating system you are running (Windows 8 / 7 / Vista / XP / ME / 2000 / 98 / 95 / Win 3.1 ), it may be in a different folder location..."

How do I find the exact folder location then?
Title: Re: Quest For Gory 4.5 inspired this?
Post by: asianmusicguy on March 09, 2013, 02:49:12 PM
download the windows version here
http://www.curlysworldoffreeware.com/games/view/238 (http://www.curlysworldoffreeware.com/games/view/238)
and follow these steps

"The rare Windows version will not install on modern computers without creating a workaround. To get the windows version to work, create a shortcut to QFG4.EXE, and add the line "--setup" at the end of the shortcut's Target field. This will load up the graphics and sound setup window. On modern machines switch the graphics to 640 x 480. For best results play in full screen mode. Once you have changed the settings then you can use the QFG4.EXE to enter the game. "
 
Title: Re: Quest For Gory 4.5 inspired this?
Post by: Bad2DaBone on March 09, 2013, 03:01:06 PM
"and add the line "--setup" at the end of the shortcut's Target field."

How do I do that part exactly?

"C:\Desktop\QFGArgh\QuestforGlory412\QFG.exe"

to

"C:\Desktop\QFGArgh\QuestforGlory412\QFG.exe--setup"

complains that such a path does not exist.

Also, I can't open the setup.bat file by itself. :(  All that happens is that a small black screen appears and disappears for 1/10th of a second without me being able to read it at all.
Title: Re: Quest For Gory 4.5 inspired this?
Post by: asianmusicguy on March 09, 2013, 03:09:12 PM
there should be a space before the dashs
so it should look like
QFG.exe --setup
Title: Re: Quest For Gory 4.5 inspired this?
Post by: Bad2DaBone on March 09, 2013, 03:13:41 PM
"C:\Desktop\QFGArgh\QuestforGlory412\QFG.exe"

"C:\Desktop\QFGArgh\QuestforGlory412\QFG.exe  setup"

Is that what the target should be changed to?  What should the target read as exactly?
Title: Re: Quest For Gory 4.5 inspired this?
Post by: Blackthorne on March 09, 2013, 03:20:26 PM


"C:\Desktop\QFGArgh\QuestforGlory412\QFG.exe --setup"
Title: Re: Quest For Gory 4.5 inspired this?
Post by: asianmusicguy on March 09, 2013, 03:25:44 PM
ok for simplify sake
1. download the windows version
2.inside the filder right-click rgw main exe(QFG.exe) and make a shortcut
3. edit the short cut so in the target after qfg.exe it says --setup
so it should look like qfg exe --setup
4. hit apply
 6. run the shortcut and check rgw video mode to 64x480
7. now run the main qfg.exe
Title: Re: Quest For Gory 4.5 inspired this?
Post by: Bad2DaBone on March 09, 2013, 03:28:52 PM
Thanks, it's working now!


A few questions....


1. Am I ONLY allowed to walk like an idiot in this game?!

2. What bugs should I be concerned with while I play it?
Title: Re: Quest For Gory 4.5 inspired this?
Post by: asianmusicguy on March 09, 2013, 03:33:53 PM
It was never well constructed i dont consider ur a game more so then a laugh
walking yeah your pretty much stuck
 and as far as i kboq you cant play poker thats a bug
Title: Re: Quest For Gory 4.5 inspired this?
Post by: Blackthorne on March 09, 2013, 03:40:47 PM
Have you not listened to us?  We told you the game was shite.


Bt
Title: Re: Quest For Gory 4.5 inspired this?
Post by: asianmusicguy on March 09, 2013, 03:43:14 PM
lol at lest i helped get it running :P
Title: Re: Quest For Gory 4.5 inspired this?
Post by: Bad2DaBone on March 09, 2013, 03:48:03 PM
Have you not listened to us?  We told you the game was shite.


Bt

Are you kidding?

THIS GAME IS AWESOME!

I love the politically incorrect humor and references to old Sierra games!

My favorite part is when the evil monk's portrait has the same swampy mist background as in Robin Hood, even though he's in a catacomb!  This game kicks ass!
Title: Re: Quest For Gory 4.5 inspired this?
Post by: Lambonius on March 09, 2013, 03:51:10 PM
Have you not listened to us?  We told you the game was shite.


Bt

Are you kidding?

THIS GAME IS AWESOME!

I love the politically incorrect humor and references to old Sierra games!

My favorite part is when the evil monk's portrait has the same swampy mist background as in Robin Hood, even though he's in a catacomb!  This game kicks ass!

This response bodes well for how much you'll like QFI.  You are clearly VERY easily impressed.  ;)
Title: Re: Quest For Gory 4.5 inspired this?
Post by: asianmusicguy on March 09, 2013, 03:52:06 PM
if you say so to each his own.
id take QFI over qfg41/2 any day
Title: Re: Quest For Gory 4.5 inspired this?
Post by: Klytos on March 09, 2013, 06:35:21 PM
A few questions....


1. Am I ONLY allowed to walk like an idiot in this game?!

2. What bugs should I be concerned with while I play it?

1. Yes. You can only walk. The sneak and run animations aren't even in the game (I've got the source, and it's shite.)

2. The Stat screen may crash your game. Don't worry too much about that though, because the fucking thing doesn't mean anything anyway. None of the stats are actually connected to anything! The poker game is broken and will cause you to crash. I think they're the major ones.
Title: Re: Quest For Gory 4.5 inspired this?
Post by: Myrddin Starfari on March 09, 2013, 07:11:22 PM
so its bugged just like a real game only more so.
Title: Re: Quest For Gory 4.5 inspired this?
Post by: Bad2DaBone on March 09, 2013, 08:03:57 PM
THIS GAME WAS AWESOME!  I loved the references to other games (KQ 4-6?), Robin Hood, Space Quest 2?, LSL1, PQ4 and Monkey Island.

And I can't say how AWESOME it was to FINALLY BE ABLE TO DO SOMETHING WITH THAT FUCKING LOG!!!


WHY DID THEY COLOR THE LOG THAT WAY?!  YOU'RE ONLY SUPPOSED TO DO THAT FOR OBJECTS YOU CAN INTERACT WITH!

Lol.  The puzzles were fun too, as was the dirty humor.

This game was awesome as hell!  Anyone who didn't like this game is either a big baby or someone who hasn't played enough Sierra games.

I give it 10/10!




Question-


1. What was all the controversy about when this game came out?

2. What was the "racist humor" that got edited out of the initial release?  I assume it was something about that one black pirate. (I remember finding it very odd that the game didn't make a joke about his ethnicity given the rest of the humor)

3. What's the deal with that one QFG website that still has a vendetta against this game?  Sounds like a bunch of French, queer fencer guys to me.

4. What content will be restored in the final version?

5. Does the camouflage cape do anything?

6. Is it possible to level up stats through combat?  Fighting didn't seem to do too much in this game.

7. Are all the NPCs complete idiots when it comes to Leprechaun's Gold?
Title: Re: Quest For Gory 4.5 inspired this?
Post by: Corrigan on March 09, 2013, 08:49:31 PM

This game was awesome as hell!  Anyone who didn't like this game is either a big baby or someone who hasn't played enough Sierra games.


Way to insult all the people in this thread who already said the game sucks :p
Title: Re: Quest For Gory 4.5 inspired this?
Post by: Myrddin Starfari on March 09, 2013, 09:06:06 PM
really its no worse than most of the stuff on tv these days.
Title: Re: Quest For Gory 4.5 inspired this?
Post by: Blackthorne on March 09, 2013, 11:12:27 PM
Heh, I liked the game - it's just not put together very well.  It is funny, though.  Don't remember what got edited out.

As for the Quest For More Glory forums, the owner of that site has a real hate boner for it.  I dunno.  It's been like 11-12 years since it came out - it's just parody.  Not meant to be taken seriously; dunno why she hates it so.  Her prerogative, though.



Bt
Title: Re: Quest For Gory 4.5 inspired this?
Post by: Bad2DaBone on March 09, 2013, 11:59:17 PM
But to be perfectly honest, I'm still completely confused!  I barely know how to use dosbox as it is...

In simple dumb guy terms that even Forest Gump could understand, how exactly do I get this game to work in dosbox or wherever?
You can't. It is so poorly scripted and the old AGS DOS engine was pretty quirky. It won't even start if you do not have CWSDPMI in the folder. With it, the game crashes while initializing. Just download the Windows version. Be warned, it is not a very good game. Earlier versions were full of bad racist jokes and questionable, not very funny humor.


What jokes?  I feel like I missed out with the censored version.

Jesus.  They've got mini-games with dancing naked chicks and a pseudo-rape "love" spell but, a few racist jokes are the pinnacle of offensive content in the game?
Title: Re: Quest For Gory 4.5 inspired this?
Post by: Blake00 on March 10, 2013, 12:08:17 AM
I've dropped by here a few times in the last 2 weeks but somehow missed this thread lol.

Oh dear.. when a fan is struggling to create a shortcut and change its command line in the properties window its probably not best to tell them to mess with dosbox and config files instead lol! But oh well after 4 pages I see we got there in the end haha.

People really shouldn't be comparing this fan game to the real series. Nothing beats the real series. But judged as a fan game QFG4.5 it is one of best because until 2008 (when AGDI released QFG2 Remake) QFG4.5 was the only major kinda finished QFG fan project with rpg and combat elements out there. Yes they were all half broken, things were stolen (some of the music is actually original btw the composer posted over at Curlys a year or so ago much to my surprise) and the game was full of rude stuff but they still did more than anyone else ever did in those days.

I don't even really wanna talk about the QFMG situation. I nearly got banned twice for simply trying to do something that helped the community which was pretty upsetting, but its an important forum that does a lot for the QFG community so I bit the bullet and moved on with other topics there.

And wow that was quick, I only updated the page a week ago lol! I don't know who is working on the new version, I've got a lot of emails over the years from big QFG4.5 fans wanting the source code and I usually just send them in the direction of either IA or AGDI as they both have a copy of the source code so I assume this latest person is one of those fans with a copy. They claim to have done more than anyone else and I've sent as many helpful suggestions to them as I could think of, but for all I know it may never get finished or it was all a hoax so nobody should be holding off waiting for it when it may never happen. Just play the current one with my walkthrough and you'll fine.. ish. :P Don't worry, if something does happen with a new version I'll let the community know. :)
Title: Re: Quest For Gory 4.5 inspired this?
Post by: Bad2DaBone on March 10, 2013, 12:34:57 AM
I played it and liked it a lot.  I just realized that the evil guards in the game are all from Robin Hood, lol.

I assume the camouflage cape enabled you to avoid enemy encounters- though not like that matters in this game.

Thanks for the post.

It was fun as a joke but, I was hoping to do some serious rpg stat-raising and fighting in this game.  Not much of that, and usually it's treated like a joke.


Btw, who made this game and is he still around?  I'd love to do a mini-interview topic with him at some point if at all possible.


If there's one thing I have to say about QFI based on this, I hope QFI gives people a lot of chances for combat, earning gold, buying stuff and lots of other fun stat-raising stuff.  The demo was mostly just talking and a few puzzles, but all that other stuff combined was what helped make QFG.

This game was hilariously awesome, offensive and stupid but, the lack of a real combat/stat-grinding/adventurer aspect keeps it from being a true QFG game.  Don't get me wrong, I liked it, but I missed being able to build up my character.


HAHAHA!  Never noticed that about the west wall near Yaga's, I guess the designer did.
Title: Re: Quest For Gory 4.5 inspired this?
Post by: Blake00 on March 10, 2013, 12:50:21 AM
Opps sorry I forgot about your questions!

1. What was all the controversy about when this game came out?
That was all mainly over the stolen content from various sierra games, along with the adult content in the game (rude jokes and sex with hookers and horse ends etc lol)

2. What was the "racist humor" that got edited out of the initial release?  I assume it was something about that one black pirate. (I remember finding it very odd that the game didn't make a joke about his ethnicity given the rest of the humor)
I don't know what got taken out of the original release, I never got to see it. There's still a few gay and race jokes, I don't really remember anything specific and don't really want to lol.

3. What's the deal with that one QFG website that still has a vendetta against this game?  Sounds like a bunch of French, queer fencer guys to me.
Already answered that in last post.

4. What content will be restored in the final version?
I've been told pretty much all the bugs I listed in my walkthrough are now fixed. Hopefully some of the stuff in my 'Unsolved Mysteries' section will be looked at next but not sure.

5. Does the camouflage cape do anything?
Your guess is correct, it was meant to help you avoid monsters but it doesn't work unfortunately.

6. Is it possible to level up stats through combat?  Fighting didn't seem to do too much in this game.
Yes but its dreadfully slow, buggy and bad. Fighters have the best chance. Thief & Mages can fight 50 bloody battles and still have no stat increases grrr.

7. Are all the NPCs complete idiots when it comes to Leprechaun's Gold?
Yes lol. Well except for the magic shop lady I think. Might even get a funny line if you try on her.
Title: Re: Quest For Gory 4.5 inspired this?
Post by: Bad2DaBone on March 10, 2013, 12:56:10 AM
http://www.questformoreglory.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=357 (http://www.questformoreglory.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=357)

"Alrighty - here's a warning from me - don't read this if you don't like 'reality' and harsh words... then again - if you've downloaded the game AND LIKED IT - this won't even phase you...

-------

The game is a piece of excretory substance... It took and bastardized the Quest for Glory name, made the Hero a perverted psychopath, ripped off Sierra for all they're worth by stealing backgrounds from both QFG1 and KQ5 - and probably others...

I don't hold this game in high regard at all... The makers should be shot *looks for PL* It's an insult to all the fans of QFG. This game can't even be considered a 'fangame' - since the people who made it evidently aren't fans of the game, or else they wouldn't have butchered the game like they did! I'm ashamed that I even downloaded it myself "


This just gives the game more of a badass rebel image as far as I'm concerned.  8)



According to the qfg wiki, this is one of only 2 topics at that board where talking about the game is allowed.
Title: Re: Quest For Gory 4.5 inspired this?
Post by: Blake00 on March 10, 2013, 01:08:28 AM
Yeah I found the accusation that the makers of the game weren't QFG fans small minded and biased. I mean you don't sit there for a few years making a QFG game if you're not a bloody fan lol. And only a big QFG1 fan would think to make the graveyard catacombs and log accessible cause lets face it we all tried to get in them in the original QFG1 game back in the day haha.

The part you read at the wiki is old. It is no longer allowed to be discussed ANYWHERE there.
Title: Re: Quest For Gory 4.5 inspired this?
Post by: Bad2DaBone on March 10, 2013, 01:11:30 AM
" Alright, for the last time. And I do mean, for the last time... *smiles sweetly*

This topic will be closed.

And if anybody...and I really do mean ANYBODY, decides to post, even the slightest comment about QFG 4.5.

They will be banned from the QFMG forums."


Jesus, what a bitch.  I wish the creator of this game could cast a Love spell on her, amirite?  Lol.
Title: Re: Quest For Gory 4.5 inspired this?
Post by: Blackthorne on March 10, 2013, 01:21:42 AM
I think the parody and satire went right over their heads.

That response from Orion is from 2003, too.  Heh.  That's a decade ago.


Bt
Title: Re: Quest For Gory 4.5 inspired this?
Post by: Bad2DaBone on March 10, 2013, 01:24:54 AM
Btw, what are "F*** Quest" and "Orgy Quest?"
Title: Re: Quest For Gory 4.5 inspired this?
Post by: Myrddin Starfari on March 10, 2013, 01:25:38 AM
wonder what happened to Orion after that.

also I wonder how they can tell people not to mention the game without mentioning the game.  Do they refer to it as the game that shall not be named?
Title: Re: Quest For Gory 4.5 inspired this?
Post by: Bad2DaBone on March 10, 2013, 01:28:32 AM
The unholy game receives power when its name is mentioned!  Never must it be spoken allowed!  Only the chosen one is permitted to speak its name!
Title: Re: Quest For Gory 4.5 inspired this?
Post by: Blackthorne on March 10, 2013, 01:32:57 AM
Quest for Orgy was another QFG type parody, if I remember, but a fella named Lucasfan.  Dunno if it was ever released, or if he just made a few joking screenshots.  (I'm pretty sure it was released, and taken down after a C&D.  Damned if I can find it anywhere.)

Fuck Quest was an original AGI Sierra style game by Rich Eter, who worked on SQ2 with us.  It's out there, it's fun and vulgar if you can find it.

Bt

Title: Re: Quest For Gory 4.5 inspired this?
Post by: Myrddin Starfari on March 10, 2013, 01:37:43 AM
some of these games look like they make Leisure Suit Larry seem classy.
Title: Re: Quest For Gory 4.5 inspired this?
Post by: Blackthorne on March 10, 2013, 01:39:58 AM
some of these games look like they make Leisure Suit Larry seem classy.

Hahah, yeah.  You could say that.


Bt
Title: Re: Quest For Gory 4.5 inspired this?
Post by: Blake00 on March 10, 2013, 03:25:23 AM
wonder what happened to Orion after that.

haha I forgot Orion said that. He's still Elsa's main admin there. Good bloke actually and oddly enough he told me last year that these days he doesn't actually mind QFG4.5 but doesn't want to admit it publicly in fear of pissing off Elsa lol. He fought pretty hard behind the scenes to keep that one QFG4.5 thread allowed for a few more years but Elsa had had enough as sadly thanks to me it was probably the most active thread in the QFMG off topic area hahaha.

I'm pretty sure I've got a link to a Quest for Orgy demo on my site, I think there may be another demo out there but I could never find it. Fuck Quest other than the 'Quest' name has nothing to do with QFG so its not on my site & I can't help you there sorry.
Title: Re: Quest For Gory 4.5 inspired this?
Post by: Klytos on March 10, 2013, 06:33:15 AM
WHY DID THEY COLOR THE LOG THAT WAY?!  YOU'RE ONLY SUPPOSED TO DO THAT FOR OBJECTS YOU CAN INTERACT WITH!

Funny thing, in the QFG1 code, the log is an object, it's not drawn on the background at all. Makes you wonder if it's there for an unused plot point, or more than likely just there as a point of reference for the player.

1. What was all the controversy about when this game came out?
That is was badly made mostly. Although some self righteous defenders of all things QFG decided that it was an abomination to all that is holy.

2. What was the "racist humor" that got edited out of the initial release?  I assume it was something about that one black pirate. (I remember finding it very odd that the game didn't make a joke about his ethnicity given the rest of the humor)

There were a few references to the black guy as a "N" word. It wasn't funny at all, just mean spirited.[/quote]

3. What's the deal with that one QFG website that still has a vendetta against this game?  Sounds like a bunch of French, queer fencer guys to me.
The admin over there has a major stick up her ass about the game, like it invalidates all things QFG because it exists. I personally don't get the attitude, if you don't like it that's fine, but it doesn't make everything else bad. Same thing I have with remakes of old games, just because it exists and you might not like it doesn't mean the old game ceases to exist. It's a stupid narrow minded point of view.[/quote]

4. What content will be restored in the final version?
There's a restored final version? Who's doing that? Why aren't I playing it now? Are they stupid working through that total rubbish code?

5. Does the camouflage cape do anything?
According to notes in the source it is supposed to make you invisible to enemies while wandering around the forest. It doesn't work.

6. Is it possible to level up stats through combat?  Fighting didn't seem to do too much in this game.
From memory, it's not even connected to the stats.

7. Are all the NPCs complete idiots when it comes to Leprechaun's Gold?
Yes.
Title: Re: Quest For Gory 4.5 inspired this?
Post by: Myrddin Starfari on March 10, 2013, 07:05:08 AM
some of these games look like they make Leisure Suit Larry seem classy.

Hahah, yeah.  You could say that.
Bt
I also bet its the first time that series has been described that way.
Title: Re: Quest For Gory 4.5 inspired this?
Post by: Lambonius on March 10, 2013, 11:49:30 AM
I wonder if Elsa and Jennifer from the Telltale forums are the same person...
Title: Re: Quest For Gory 4.5 inspired this?
Post by: Blackthorne on March 10, 2013, 12:25:26 PM
No, Elsa's from Cyprus (The Island in the Meditereanean) and Jennifer's from somewhere else.

Still, there's some people who do not understand parody and satire.  These are the idiots who would ban books by Voltaire, Chaucer, Swift, Vonnegut, Twain, Orwell, and Vonnegut because they're too dumb and insipid to understand the content. 

I have no time or patience for feebs like that.


Bt
Title: Re: Quest For Gory 4.5 inspired this?
Post by: Bad2DaBone on March 10, 2013, 01:31:41 PM
"Funny thing, in the QFG1 code, the log is an object, it's not drawn on the background at all. Makes you wonder if it's there for an unused plot point, or more than likely just there as a point of reference for the player."

Ah.

Both EGA and VGA offer descriptions that there's nothing more to do with the log when you look at it.  Most likely, it was originally part of a quest (somebody probably hid something there or you had to hide something there for someone) that wound up on the cutting room floor.  Either they were too lazy to remove the log, or just liked having it where it was to differentiate environments.

The end result, though, was because of it's unique appearance a whole generation of players spent an eternity with the log- tortured, unable to accomplish anything.

Thakfully QFG 4.5 came to their rescue and gave the log SOME purpose at long last, easing many traumatized and confused childhood memories!
Title: Re: Quest For Gory 4.5 inspired this?
Post by: nidoking on March 10, 2013, 02:49:40 PM
PushingUpRoses did a full playthrough of F*** Quest with Oancitizen some time ago, and I think they abandoned the playthrough of the sequel halfway through - not necessarily due to disgust with the content, but I can't imagine it provided much motivation.
Title: Re: Quest For Gory 4.5 inspired this?
Post by: Lambonius on March 10, 2013, 03:24:41 PM
I didn't realize Rich ever finished the sequel.  I'll have to track that down.  haha
Title: Re: Quest For Gory 4.5 inspired this?
Post by: Bad2DaBone on March 10, 2013, 04:47:34 PM
I gotta ask- do the Coles have a board or fan email where they can be reached.

I can't stand it, I MUST know the truth about that log!
Title: Re: Quest For Gory 4.5 inspired this?
Post by: Goatmeal on March 10, 2013, 05:19:31 PM
I gotta ask- do the Coles have a board or fan email where they can be reached.

I can't stand it, I MUST know the truth about that log!


Prior to their successful "Hero-U: Rogue To Redemption" Kickstarter, they had a website:

http://www.theschoolforheroes.com (http://www.theschoolforheroes.com)

However, it hasn't been updated since, October 20, 2012, the day after they kickstarted Hero-U, and appears to be "abanonded" or "post-poned" for now, which is too bad.

At the time, Lori had some amazing posts about the women of QFG under the Blog/Questlogs, especially about the back-stories/origin stories/histories of both Erana and Katrina.  Lori had gotten up to QFG4, but the Kickstarter seemed to have derailed that series of posts.  It too bad, as Katrina's fascinating story wasn't quite completed before the Kickstarter began...

http://www.theschoolforheroes.com/questlog/ (http://www.theschoolforheroes.com/questlog/)

* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *

The Official Hero-U website has its own forum at:

http://www.hero-u.net/forum/ (http://www.hero-u.net/forum/)

but I'm not sure if the Coles are frequent posters there, either.  I get the feeling they are both extremely busy developing their new game...

* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *

Corey will pop up every once in a while at the Kickstarter Comments section for Hero-U.  I _think_ that's where Blackthorne asked about the purpose of the building to the left of the bar in Spielburg.

http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1878147873/hero-u-rogue-to-redemption/comments (http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1878147873/hero-u-rogue-to-redemption/comments)

Again, lately, his posts are more about the nuts-and-bolts of making Hero-U a reality, but you never know...
Title: Re: Quest For Gory 4.5 inspired this?
Post by: Myrddin Starfari on March 11, 2013, 01:56:46 AM
Just based on the sheer contempt of the game I'm almost tempted to play it solely to see what the fuss is about.
Title: Re: Quest For Gory 4.5 inspired this?
Post by: asianmusicguy on March 13, 2013, 09:51:51 PM
 if so
Quote
1. download the windows version
2.inside the filder right-click rgw main exe(QFG.exe) and make a shortcut
3. edit the short cut so in the target after qfg.exe it says --setup
so it should look like qfg.exe --setup
4. hit apply
 6. run the shortcut and check the video mode to 64x480
7. now run the main qfg.exe
Title: Re: Quest For Gory 4.5 inspired this?
Post by: Myrddin Starfari on March 13, 2013, 10:14:52 PM
almost tempted.

actually I have played it before, but had too many problems with just running it I gave up.
Title: Re: Quest For Gory 4.5 inspired this?
Post by: asianmusicguy on March 13, 2013, 10:39:03 PM
the solution above solves that so  if want your  soul to die be my guest
:)
Title: Re: Quest For Gory 4.5 inspired this?
Post by: Quest For Glory Fan on March 14, 2013, 11:32:43 PM
I don't even think I was in highschool the last time I played QFG4.5 It was weird at every turn and I'm pretty sure I couldn't figure out how to beat it. Probably didn't help that I just walked around casting lust at everyone.

Also what's the deal with this QFG1 log? I have no idea what anyone's on about and I've played the hell out of that game.
Title: Re: Quest For Gory 4.5 inspired this?
Post by: Bad2DaBone on April 08, 2013, 12:18:51 AM
I don't even think I was in highschool the last time I played QFG4.5 It was weird at every turn and I'm pretty sure I couldn't figure out how to beat it. Probably didn't help that I just walked around casting lust at everyone.

Also what's the deal with this QFG1 log? I have no idea what anyone's on about and I've played the hell out of that game.

Because of its design a LOT of people spent hours fooling around with it convinced they could do something with it. The the in-game message didn't help much because it was a unique one a lot of people figured it meant they could do something and the game was hiding something.

The fact he makes it so you can bust into the graveyard crypt and climb over the left-edge of Baba Yaga's fence does show the designer really enjoy QFG1 a lot.
Title: Re: Quest For Gory 4.5 inspired this?
Post by: Myrddin Starfari on April 08, 2013, 01:37:38 AM
Maybe the log was a plant and reported you every time you passed it to whomever it was spying for.
Title: Re: Quest For Gory 4.5 inspired this?
Post by: Bad2DaBone on April 08, 2013, 12:53:01 PM
I don't even think I was in highschool the last time I played QFG4.5 It was weird at every turn and I'm pretty sure I couldn't figure out how to beat it. Probably didn't help that I just walked around casting lust at everyone.

Also what's the deal with this QFG1 log? I have no idea what anyone's on about and I've played the hell out of that game.

Because of its design a LOT of people spent hours fooling around with it convinced they could do something with it. The the in-game message didn't help much because it was a unique one a lot of people figured it meant they could do something and the game was hiding something.

The fact he makes it so you can bust into the graveyard crypt and climb over the left-edge of Baba Yaga's fence does show the designer really enjoy QFG1 a lot.


To be honest, I was very comforted and delighted he put all these things in the game. (along with the opening of the ice pass, and even letting people explore the Meep tunnels)  It was as if all my childhood dreams when I first played QFG 1 were fulfilled! :D


Btw, what games does he reference with the Meep tunnels?  He lifted a lot of backgrounds from other games (especially Longbows, lol) and they looked so incredibly well-detailed I figured it had to be from some other game I hadn't played.
Title: Re: Quest For Gory 4.5 inspired this?
Post by: Blackthorne on April 08, 2013, 06:11:20 PM
I believe they came from King's Quest 5.


Bt
Title: Re: Quest For Gory 4.5 inspired this?
Post by: Bad2DaBone on May 20, 2013, 01:19:07 PM
I replayed Conquest of Longbow because of this game.

I swear to God, I was expecting a plant monster to eat Robin Hood when I walked through that area! :P


Btw, has the "remake" of QFG 4.5 come out yet?  It'd be nice to play this game without it freezing every 30 minutes.


Also, maybe one day we can see a voice-acted version of this game! ;)
Title: Re: Quest For Gory 4.5 inspired this?
Post by: Bad2DaBone on June 04, 2013, 03:11:20 AM
One last question....

What on earth was that monster that was terrorizing the Meeps?  It seems so well-designed that I can't help but wonder if it was taken from another game.

Also, same with "Homosexual Pirate Island."  Lol, well, it wasn't as well-designed as the monster was, but I am curious if the layout came from another game somewhere.
Title: Re: Quest For Gory 4.5 inspired this?
Post by: s_d on July 30, 2013, 05:49:10 PM
Fuck Quest was an original AGI Sierra style game by Rich Eter, who worked on SQ2 with us.  It's out there, it's fun and vulgar if you can find it.


So, this happened today (http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2013/07/30/nsfw-fkquest-highway-to-the-bonerzone/), courtesy of Cara Ellison.

Now adding "bonerzone" to my lexicon...
Title: Re: Quest For Gory 4.5 inspired this?
Post by: Blake00 on August 01, 2013, 11:02:12 AM
bahahaha that sex in video games thing he links to cracked me up.


"Btw, has the "remake" of QFG 4.5 come out yet?  It'd be nice to play this game without it freezing every 30 minutes."

I've tried to contact the guy who's working on it several times and got no reply. Looks like its dead sorry. :(
Title: Re: Quest For Gory 4.5 inspired this?
Post by: Bad2DaBone on August 02, 2013, 05:31:44 PM
Well if you can, please send him a link to this topic.  Even if he doesn't respond, he'll probably still read the link.

If he knows there's actual fans of QFG 4.5 anxious for the remake, maybe he'll fix it up. :)

Also, does anyone remember what the original racist joke was with the black pirate?  Given this game's sense of humor, I KNEW something was up when the game avoided making a racist joke when you click on the black pirate, I wasn't remotely surprised to hear there was originally something there.

However, it is funny that the "hooker sex scenes" were no big deal, but telling a racist joke was pure evil and that was the one thing that had to be censored, lol!
Title: Re: Quest For Gory 4.5 inspired this?
Post by: Myrddin Starfari on August 02, 2013, 05:49:43 PM
arson, murder, jaywalking trope isn't it
Title: Re: Quest For Gory 4.5 inspired this?
Post by: Blackthorne on August 02, 2013, 05:50:02 PM
The guy who's remaking it reads these forums.  I've spoken with him - he's got a lot on his plate, and probably won't get around to wrapping it up for a while.  Don't hold your breath, in other words.


Also , the original racist joke was, "I'm not going to tell you, because I don't know."

Also, I see no problem with hooker sex scenes or sex in general.  Sex is natural; everyone has it, it's how we make both smiles and babies.  Racist jokes, however, have their roots in deep seeded fear, loathing and hate and generally, they're disgusting.  I don't want to get into another discussion about the semantics of racist jokes, however, because it's 2013 and that conversation practically founded the internet 20 years ago, and that's one retro thing I don't wanna dive into again.  They're lame, and even the original creator of the game said the humor was sophomoric and without tact when he first made it. 

So, to sum up, I would rather see people having sex than see racist jokes being told.  x1000.




Bt
Title: Re: Quest For Gory 4.5 inspired this?
Post by: Bad2DaBone on August 08, 2013, 12:32:13 AM
The guy who's remaking it reads these forums.  I've spoken with him - he's got a lot on his plate, and probably won't get around to wrapping it up for a while.  Don't hold your breath, in other words.


Also , the original racist joke was, "I'm not going to tell you, because I don't know."

Also, I see no problem with hooker sex scenes or sex in general.  Sex is natural; everyone has it, it's how we make both smiles and babies.  Racist jokes, however, have their roots in deep seeded fear, loathing and hate and generally, they're disgusting.  I don't want to get into another discussion about the semantics of racist jokes, however, because it's 2013 and that conversation practically founded the internet 20 years ago, and that's one retro thing I don't wanna dive into again.  They're lame, and even the original creator of the game said the humor was sophomoric and without tact when he first made it. 

So, to sum up, I would rather see people having sex than see racist jokes being told.  x1000.




Bt

I'm actually okay with racist humor, just as long as it's funny and/or done in good spirits.... you know, like a Chris Rock sketch.

Btw, who made this game?  Does he still have any internet presence or read this at all?  I'd love to thank him personally!  There any old interviews with him out there at all?
Title: Re: Quest For Gory 4.5 inspired this?
Post by: Blake00 on August 16, 2013, 07:24:12 AM
Btw, who made this game?  Does he still have any internet presence or read this at all?  I'd love to thank him personally!  There any old interviews with him out there at all?

He disappeared a year or so after the game came out and as far as I know no one ever heard from him again.

That is until a few weeks ago when I got the shock of my err online related life lol and received an email from him about my website tribute to his game:

"Dude, I made QFG 4.5 back before college starting in 1999 up to 2000. I'd put it out there then sort of forgot/lost track. I told some friends about it, they googled it and found your page.

Thank you so much for the re-vamp! I still have the original source code, I'm not sure if that would have helped. I am extremely flattered by what you did for my old pet project. Frankly, my humor back then was a tad sophomoric and my spelling atrocious, but I'm very glad the game brought some people joy and that you put it back out there.

Cheers friend!"


I replied to him thanking him for the game etc and told him a bit about the potential remake (making it clear I wasn't the one working on it), this place, you guys, Quest for Infamy and Hero-U etc and chucked in some links. Never heard back from him sadly but nevertheless there ya go hey.. its been over a friggin decade and he's appeared.. briefly haha.

Moments like that are one of the reasons I made my QFG fan game tribute pages as I wanted authors to see how passionate fans can get about their little projects & that their work was never forgotten, and its awesome when one comes out of retirement/wilderness/exile to thank me and in most cases offer new material not seen by the public. Eg a similar thing happened with Klytos with QFI way before the kickstarter, Chris with the old Heroine's Quest, Orion with project Katrina and more I'm forgetting. :)
Title: Re: Quest For Gory 4.5 inspired this?
Post by: Lambonius on August 16, 2013, 10:53:24 AM
That's awesome.  Nice going, Blake!  :)
Title: Re: Quest For Gory 4.5 inspired this?
Post by: Bad2DaBone on August 16, 2013, 01:33:44 PM
EPIC!  To the duder that made the game, good luck with forming your multi-billion dollar internet gold company!  ;)
Title: Re: Quest For Gory 4.5 inspired this?
Post by: Bad2DaBone on August 16, 2013, 07:53:18 PM
Also, to the guy that made this game, if you read this.... please sign up and post!  I'm a huge fan of the game and would love to interview you and get your thoughts on it, the fandom and controversy!  ;D  (plus I'm sure others would love to talk to you too)

Ohh.... and we can have you post over at Elsa's board!  I'm sure she'd LOVE to have you post there!  ;)
Title: Re: Quest For Gory 4.5 inspired this?
Post by: SarahLiz on August 17, 2013, 01:25:20 PM
I downloaded the game fairly recently and couldn't get it to run, sadly...does it work with Dosbox or anything?  Anyone have a link to a current download?

Edit:  ok, probably only the link in the first post.  I'll just try to run it again when I get home from vacation & see if I'm more successful this time.  I'm not too handy running games if I have to tweak things a bit ;)
Title: Re: Quest For Gory 4.5 inspired this?
Post by: nidoking on August 17, 2013, 08:56:01 PM
I recently got Fable running on a modern-ish computer. Let's just say that sometimes, "sadly" isn't the word to associate with failure to run a game.
Title: Re: Quest For Gory 4.5 inspired this?
Post by: Blake00 on August 30, 2013, 01:44:22 PM
I downloaded the game fairly recently and couldn't get it to run, sadly...does it work with Dosbox or anything?  Anyone have a link to a current download?

Edit:  ok, probably only the link in the first post.  I'll just try to run it again when I get home from vacation & see if I'm more successful this time.  I'm not too handy running games if I have to tweak things a bit ;)

Sarah if you hop over to my QFG fan page (link in my signature) and visit the QFG4.5 page its got the download links and my walkthrough that contains a installation guide. If you have any troubles post here and we can all try & put our heads together to help out again lol.

PS a girls reaction to the game would be 'interesting' to say the least hahaha.
Title: Re: Quest For Gory 4.5 inspired this?
Post by: SarahLiz on August 30, 2013, 06:02:19 PM
I downloaded the game fairly recently and couldn't get it to run, sadly...does it work with Dosbox or anything?  Anyone have a link to a current download?

Edit:  ok, probably only the link in the first post.  I'll just try to run it again when I get home from vacation & see if I'm more successful this time.  I'm not too handy running games if I have to tweak things a bit ;)

Sarah if you hop over to my QFG fan page (link in my signature) and visit the QFG4.5 page its got the download links and my walkthrough that contains a installation guide. If you have any troubles post here and we can all try & put our heads together to help out again lol.

PS a girls reaction to the game would be 'interesting' to say the least hahaha.


Alrighty...I had actually tried downloading & running it again when I originally posted that message but there's no winsetup.exe in the file, so my computer says something to the effect of "this system does not support full screen mode" when I click on the QFG.exe file.  There's a setup.bat file but tweaking that doesn't make a difference when trying to run the game. 

I'll mess with it some more but any tips?  And you'll have to talk in layman's terms to me unfortunately, I'm a computer game freak but not very knowledgeable, ha.  Now, I did actually play this game a long time ago (on an older model computer I'm sure), and I do remember loving it.  Despite being a girl, it takes a lot to freak me out or insult me.  One of my favorite first games was Leisure Suit Larry, after all...;)

Title: Re: Quest For Gory 4.5 inspired this?
Post by: Blake00 on August 30, 2013, 11:56:10 PM
Yup you're talking about the exact same problem everyone gets when they try to get it working without any help. That's why I said to go and get the walkthrough from My QFG4.5 page (http://webspace.webring.com/people/ed/d_blakeley/Games/QFGSeries/QFG45/QFG45Index.html) as it contains a installation guide which you will need to get the game working.

Follow the guide and if you're still struggling we'll try and get you to the finish line. :)
Title: Re: Quest For Gory 4.5 inspired this?
Post by: Klytos on August 31, 2013, 02:43:04 AM
if you're still struggling we'll try and get you to the finish line. :)

Do you say that to a lot of women?
Title: Re: Quest For Gory 4.5 inspired this?
Post by: Blake00 on August 31, 2013, 01:22:47 PM
bahahaha nah just this one, or at least that's the story I'm sticking to. :P
Title: Re: Quest For Gory 4.5 inspired this?
Post by: Bad2DaBone on August 31, 2013, 08:10:00 PM
I downloaded the game fairly recently and couldn't get it to run, sadly...does it work with Dosbox or anything?  Anyone have a link to a current download?

Edit:  ok, probably only the link in the first post.  I'll just try to run it again when I get home from vacation & see if I'm more successful this time.  I'm not too handy running games if I have to tweak things a bit ;)

Sarah if you hop over to my QFG fan page (link in my signature) and visit the QFG4.5 page its got the download links and my walkthrough that contains a installation guide. If you have any troubles post here and we can all try & put our heads together to help out again lol.

PS a girls reaction to the game would be 'interesting' to say the least hahaha.

I'm pretty sure that Elsa from that one famous QFG message board is the only female who's ever played QFG 4.5, lol.
Title: Re: Quest For Gory 4.5 inspired this?
Post by: Blake00 on September 01, 2013, 08:29:37 AM
Nope she's never touched the game would you believe lol.
Title: Re: Quest For Gory 4.5 inspired this?
Post by: Blackthorne on September 01, 2013, 08:51:31 AM
Of course she hasn't.  Why would she when she could form an opinion about the game without even playing it?


Bt
Title: Re: Quest For Gory 4.5 inspired this?
Post by: Bad2DaBone on September 01, 2013, 11:24:48 PM
Nope she's never touched the game would you believe lol.

Really?  How do you know that?

I do know she claimed to have played it once, and referenced the "log" thing in the game as the one thing in it she actually enjoyed.
Title: Re: Quest For Gory 4.5 inspired this?
Post by: Bad2DaBone on September 18, 2013, 04:38:39 PM
(SOMEWHERE IN AN ALTERNATE DIMENSION, IN WHICH ELSA READS THIS THREAD AND DECIDES TO PLAY QFG 4.5 AT LONG LAST...)


Elsa- "Oh... WOW!  This game is amazing!  The graphics, the humor, the the writing... it's so beautiful it moves me to tears!  Whoever wrote this had the soul of a poet- and he surely is destined to be my soulmate!  I... will do more than permit discussion of QFG 4.5, I'll form a class at Harvard to study its impact on the world and make it mandatory for new users to discuss it on the board!  How could I have been so naive and blind all this time?"

(After finding the creator...)

Elsa- "You are so handsome and so... dashing!  Have... have you cast a.... love spell... on my heart? <3"

Creator- "Yes I have.... now give me some sugar, baby!"

(The two make out, get married, have lots and lots of babies together, win the lottery, and the creator finally forms the multi-billion internet gold company he knew would be his ultimate destiny someday...)


THE END

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uvk23jmrIPE#ws (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uvk23jmrIPE#ws)

(note- still a better love story than Twilight!)
Title: Re: Quest For Gory 4.5 inspired this?
Post by: Bad2DaBone on September 22, 2013, 02:20:17 PM
This game is so epic, it got Team Infamous put in the Quest for Glory wiki!

http://questforglory.wikia.com/wiki/Quest_for_Glory_4_%C2%BD:_So_You_Thought_You_Were_a_Hero%3F#cite_note-9 (http://questforglory.wikia.com/wiki/Quest_for_Glory_4_%C2%BD:_So_You_Thought_You_Were_a_Hero%3F#cite_note-9)

Btw, someone should add a link to this topic, and include the quote from the author, as well as information about the bug-fixing update that's been made!

I'd really love it if the actual creator would come here and field questions, that game was so awesome I'd love to ask how he made it!  ;D
Title: Re: Quest For Gory 4.5 inspired this?
Post by: Blake00 on October 01, 2013, 12:41:51 PM
Nope she's never touched the game would you believe lol.

Really?  How do you know that?

I do know she claimed to have played it once, and referenced the "log" thing in the game as the one thing in it she actually enjoyed.

Because in my multiple arguments with her about banning the game she repeatedly said that she hasn't played it and doesn't need to.

So are you sure it was Elsa that said she liked the log? I thought it was Orion that said that.
Title: Re: Quest For Gory 4.5 inspired this?
Post by: Blake00 on October 01, 2013, 12:54:27 PM
This game is so epic, it got Team Infamous put in the Quest for Glory wiki!

[url]http://questforglory.wikia.com/wiki/Quest_for_Glory_4_%C2%BD:_So_You_Thought_You_Were_a_Hero%3F#cite_note-9[/url] ([url]http://questforglory.wikia.com/wiki/Quest_for_Glory_4_%C2%BD:_So_You_Thought_You_Were_a_Hero%3F#cite_note-9[/url])

Btw, someone should add a link to this topic, and include the quote from the author, as well as information about the bug-fixing update that's been made!

I'd really love it if the actual creator would come here and field questions, that game was so awesome I'd love to ask how he made it!  ;D


Yes I've had contact with Baggins & his QFG wiki admins in the past. They stuck up for me on the wiki in 2010 when Elsa first threatened me with the banning for mentioning QFG4.5 and in the years since. As a result they got into some 'wiki edit wars' with QFMG people which was rather amusing. Baggins even visited my site and emailed me with praise for my work offering a mod job there making their QFG fan game wiki list as comprehensive as my website. I accepted his offer but after an hour or so of trying I officially decided that wiki editing was quite possibly the dumbest most user-unfriendly thing I'd ever touched in my life lol. Feel kinda bad as he was really nice to me and excited to get me onboard but god I had enough trouble finding the time to work on my own site let alone a wiki page who's editing drives you insane lol.
Title: Re: Quest For Gory 4.5 inspired this?
Post by: Bad2DaBone on October 02, 2013, 01:41:41 AM
Nope she's never touched the game would you believe lol.

Really?  How do you know that?

I do know she claimed to have played it once, and referenced the "log" thing in the game as the one thing in it she actually enjoyed.

Because in my multiple arguments with her about banning the game she repeatedly said that she hasn't played it and doesn't need to.

So are you sure it was Elsa that said she liked the log? I thought it was Orion that said that.


That's pretty outrageous.  She sounds like one of those types that wants to ban a a book without reading it because she heard some bad stuff about it. 

I mean, to go to the length of banning others over talking about it?  Just play the game at least!  Sure, it's low-budgets as hell but it's freaking hilarious!  It's like an epic sendup of all the Sierra games combined!  Sure it's lowbrow humor, but it's lowbrow humor that works!

Imo, she's just jealous this guy was able to complete his game and get praise and accolades over it, so she's just hating him out of envy.  There's no Quest for More Glory, but QFG 4.5 has a nice fat slot in the QFG wiki, and that just boils her blood.  It disgusts her so much she won't even PLAY the game but will read and harp on the most negative remarks out there about the game and treat them like freshly minted commandments.

Imagine if someone contacted the Coles and it turned out they enjoyed the game and thought it hilarious, what would she do then?  Apologize?  Actually play the game?
Title: Re: Quest For Gory 4.5 inspired this?
Post by: Lambonius on October 02, 2013, 01:47:22 AM
You know who else used to ban books without reading them?  The Nazis.

Thread over.   8)
Title: Re: Quest For Gory 4.5 inspired this?
Post by: Bad2DaBone on October 02, 2013, 02:03:04 AM
You know who else used to ban books without reading them?  The Nazis.

Thread over.   8)


Thread over?  Are you kidding?  We just got ourselves a Nazi reference!  You just know an internet thread's gotten real badass once someone throws in a Nazi reference!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KA6HHgJC5BE# (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KA6HHgJC5BE#)

Hey, you know who else like censoring videogames for people to enjoy?

Communist China.

Case.  Closed!  Top dat!   ;D




Also...

http://memegenerator.net/instance/41922758 (http://memegenerator.net/instance/41922758)
Title: Re: Quest For Gory 4.5 inspired this?
Post by: Bad2DaBone on October 07, 2013, 01:07:55 PM
One thing I didn't like about QFG 4.5...

(note- all you lurkers gotta sign up and login to see the picture we talkin' bout here)

Title: Re: Quest For Gory 4.5 inspired this?
Post by: Blackthorne on October 07, 2013, 01:25:34 PM
You may be.


Bt
Title: Re: Quest For Gory 4.5 inspired this?
Post by: Bad2DaBone on October 08, 2013, 02:13:29 AM
She may be old.  But her ass was fat.  8)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4tqtdf9BhQI# (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4tqtdf9BhQI#)
Title: Re: Quest For Gory 4.5 inspired this?
Post by: Fizzii on October 12, 2013, 05:29:58 AM
(http://www.corbydesigns.com/libnote.png)
Title: Re: Quest For Gory 4.5 inspired this?
Post by: Bad2DaBone on October 13, 2013, 03:34:01 AM
HELLZ YEAH!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qh6V_rylDsk (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qh6V_rylDsk)

Now all we need is the creator of QFG 4.5 banging a heavily drunk Elsa!

Gig gig gig gig giggity giggity go!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6V2GiXfvyYI (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6V2GiXfvyYI)
Title: Re: Quest For Gory 4.5 inspired this?
Post by: Bad2DaBone on October 13, 2013, 04:36:11 PM
http://www.pcgamer.com/2012/06/09/saturday-crapshoot-quest-for-glory-4-12/ (http://www.pcgamer.com/2012/06/09/saturday-crapshoot-quest-for-glory-4-12/)

HELLZ YEAH!  An article that manages to mention both QFG 4.5 AND Quest for Infamy!  ;D

(Why's he complaining about the bar maiden's dress?  The guy who wrote this sounds like the kind of dude that signs up to take feminism courses in college just for fun.)
Title: Re: Quest For Gory 4.5 inspired this?
Post by: Blackthorne on October 13, 2013, 05:06:57 PM
Hah, yeah, I remember reading that last year.  He mentions the "The Eye of Argon" which is just about the best thing ever.


Bt
Title: Re: Quest For Gory 4.5 inspired this?
Post by: Bad2DaBone on October 13, 2013, 06:10:49 PM
"Quest for Glory 4.5 kicks off later, with the Hero attending the 10 year reunion for his… correspondence school course? I’m not sure if that’s meant to be a joke, or just the creator having no idea what those words mean, never mind how to put them into a sentence."

What a dumbass!  Of course it's a joke!  8)
Title: Re: Quest For Gory 4.5 inspired this?
Post by: Bad2DaBone on October 22, 2013, 02:32:05 AM
I don't know when the totally kick-ass awesome dudes remaking QFG 4.5 will do so, but if it's not too much to ask, it'd be appreciated if they'd fix the spelling and grammar errors.

It didn't bug me too much at all (the game really doesn't take itself seriously and that's part of the charm) and.... ah **** it, just leave em alone then, unless the world's most awesome redneck says to correct the spelling and grammar.  8)
Title: Re: Quest For Gory 4.5 inspired this?
Post by: Bad2DaBone on November 11, 2013, 08:57:54 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2C7mNr5WMjA# (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2C7mNr5WMjA#)

The inspiration behind one of the most hilarious jokes in QFG 4.5!  ;D
Title: Re: Quest For Gory 4.5 inspired this?
Post by: Orion on May 13, 2014, 04:30:04 AM
I'm usually not one to resurrect an old thread like this (and I looked, it's not against the rules!), but got to talking with Blake about some of Elsa's shenanigans, and he directed me here.

I'll admit that I did play the game, but when I did, I was probably around 16, and didn't fully appreciate satire comedy at the time due to a Christian upbringing.  I chalk it up to youthful naivety.  Elsa on the other hand, not once touched the game, and completely refused to even click on a link dealing with it.  She shunned it without any knowledge.  (Saw a Nazi reference... I did nazi that coming... but quite fitting *cough*)  So because of this, all discussion was banned from the forums.  Blake found this out the hard way, because there was no post about ANY rules on the forums.  That's how tight of a ship Elsa runs.  LOL

Anywho, I do plan on one day trying the game out again - probably will enjoy it a lot more than I did back then.  I remember something about a vampire side-quest, and the ever so red-herring of the dreaded Log that sticks out like a sore thumb in QFG1.

(Also, YAY MY FIRST POST!  Hi everyone!)
Title: Re: Quest For Gory 4.5 inspired this?
Post by: Klytos on May 13, 2014, 08:36:32 AM
I can appreciate that some people don't like satire, I can also appreciate criticism of bad graphics or glitchy coding. I have never been able to stomach people who speak the evils of something (anything, not just QFG4.5) and they have no knowledge what-so-ever about it. I pride myself on trying to find out about something about an issue if it's a popular topic or controversial, that way I can make an informed decision about it. I might still disagree with something but at least I'll be able to argue the point from a position of knowing what I'm talking about. What you've said there Orion just confirms the attitude which bothered so many people in the first place.
Title: Re: Quest For Gory 4.5 inspired this?
Post by: Klytos on May 13, 2014, 08:36:41 AM
Oh and happy first post!
Title: Re: Quest For Gory 4.5 inspired this?
Post by: Orion on May 14, 2014, 01:36:59 AM
Yeah, I guess you could say I was blinded by having been her friend for so long.  Now that she's gone (even further) off the deep end, I'm starting to notice what everyone else has already known.

I'll probably continue lurking here, like I've been doing at a few of the other forums.  Kind of lost my taste for the whole 'forum atmosphere' after what all went down over at QFMG.
Title: Re: Quest For Gory 4.5 inspired this?
Post by: Klytos on May 14, 2014, 04:45:17 AM
To be honest most forums have pretty much died anyway. Social media killed them to a great extent.
Title: Re: Quest For Gory 4.5 inspired this?
Post by: Collector on May 14, 2014, 01:22:31 PM
I resent what social media has done to the forums. The likes of Facebook and Twitter do not lend themselves to much more than drive by quips. SHP still has spurts of activity, but who knows down the road.

As far as the nature of any given board, much depends on the management of the board. I view SHP's forum as belonging to the SHP community as opposed to my personal fiefdom. It is all of the regulars that form the character. The only rules are that posters be civil and that tech support questions be asked in the appropriate subforum to make it easier to search for answers. No arbitrary rules about posting subjects, thread drift, etc.

Outside of bots, I have only ever had to ban one account, who was someone who had joined with the sole purpose to attack one of the SHP members.
Title: Re: Quest For Gory 4.5 inspired this?
Post by: Blackthorne on May 14, 2014, 01:37:30 PM
Uh, yeah, sorry about that.  In my defense, attacking Sierra Help Forum members because a highly rated internet sport that year.

On a serious note - yeah, I do miss the days of yore, where activity happened on forums and real communities sprang from them.  I mean, it's where I met most of the guys I work with today - not to mention many of my peers in the industry.  Just one of those pesky ways the world moves on - but, you know, it was funny - I liked how you saw the same few people between several different forums, yet all forums had a different flavor to them.  I used to check like 5-10 forums multiple times a day!!


Bt
Title: Re: Quest For Gory 4.5 inspired this?
Post by: Lambonius on May 14, 2014, 05:27:47 PM
I still check several forums, though some that I used to check have died off, or have become obnoxious to the point where I avoid them like the plague.  And of course, there were one or two that I got myself banned from.  And Steve got me banned from the Telltale forums because he wouldn't stop trying to drag me into a discussion about piracy.  Jerk.
Title: Re: Quest For Gory 4.5 inspired this?
Post by: Goatmeal on May 15, 2014, 07:42:55 AM
...And Steve got me banned from the Telltale forums because he wouldn't stop trying to drag me into a discussion about piracy.  Jerk.

Who would have thought Steve would be so passionate — one way or the other — about sovereign vessel attacks on the high seas?   ???
 
Title: Re: Quest For Gory 4.5 inspired this?
Post by: Bad2DaBone on June 05, 2014, 12:22:04 AM
Yeah, I guess you could say I was blinded by having been her friend for so long.  Now that she's gone (even further) off the deep end, I'm starting to notice what everyone else has already known.

I'll probably continue lurking here, like I've been doing at a few of the other forums.  Kind of lost my taste for the whole 'forum atmosphere' after what all went down over at QFMG.

Sorry to hear that.

In all seriousness, she sounds like a control freak with mental issues.  I notice fairly occasionally you'll see boards that are run by complete nutjobs who get off on being in control and exerting power.  She could use some psychological help with all her issues I'd reckon, people like that often have kinda messed-up pasts.

Probably worst I ever saw was the girl that runs Sailor Moon Uncensored's message board.  She makes Elsa look like Sleeping Beauty in comparison.

Sometimes they like making up bizarre rules on the spot just so they can enforce them and express power and dominance over others that might otherwise be lacking in their real lives.
Title: Re: Quest For Gory 4.5 inspired this?
Post by: Bad2DaBone on June 06, 2014, 08:15:29 PM
Btw, Quest for Glory 4.5 has actually been talked about at the Coles' official message board before, and they've answered questions about it.... without banning anyone!

So apparently Elsa is more of an extremist and more offended by the game than the Coles themselves.
Title: Re: Quest For Gory 4.5 inspired this?
Post by: Klytos on June 06, 2014, 08:27:15 PM
Whatever else you can say about 4.5, it's obvious the author enjoyed the original otherwise he wouldn't have bothered making it.
Title: Re: Quest For Gory 4.5 inspired this?
Post by: Orion on June 08, 2014, 01:16:24 AM
Agreed.  At the time I played it, I was younger, naive to the world, and not as corrupted as I am now.  Horrible times, to be honest.  I'd probably love the game now if I played it.

Also, apparently my account is now completely deleted over at QFMG.  Control-freak is putting it mildly.  All she truly cares about IS her precious website.  She even tried sending me messages saying she forgave *me* for everything, when all I did was be accused of deleting her as admin. LOL  Two days after she banned me she accused me of this - then posted an activity log from my account, which I couldn't even log into at the time because she changed the password - of me deleting her and all other mods at the forums.  And then me re-promoting her to admin.  How that makes any lick of sense, I don't know.

I just checked that forum for the first time in weeks, and apparently it went a full month of inactivity, except for (even worse than lame) joke threads that she use to bitch about.

I'll leave one quick link for you to chuckle at.  http://www.questformoreglory.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=3436 (http://www.questformoreglory.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=3436) - What the hell kind of response is that?

Oh, also, if any of you are up to it for me, since I can't post there anymore - could you PM Chris724 over there - let them know Elsa's psycho and deleted me.  Questions were asked about me here - > http://www.questformoreglory.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=3416&p=49611 (http://www.questformoreglory.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=3416&p=49611)  (Thanks in advance! :) )
Title: Re: Quest For Gory 4.5 inspired this?
Post by: Klytos on June 08, 2014, 02:47:03 AM
That's my new response to every thread.

No.
Title: Re: Quest For Gory 4.5 inspired this?
Post by: Bad2DaBone on June 08, 2014, 12:49:53 PM
Someone should pm Elsa this thread.

She can either be a psychopath with no friends and utter control, or just act nice, not ban people left and right over ludicrous things, and have friends.  This girl needs counselling, surely she can find some somewhere in Cyprus...

Honestly, part of the reason I even played QFG 4.5 to begin with was because her banning of it gave it such a "badboy" image.  When I read that in the wiki I thought, "Hot damn, now I REALLY got to play this game!"


She should just say something like this in response to everyone....



-----------------



"Hi, this is Elsa.  I know that my behavior in the past few months has alienated many and for that, I deeply apologize.

Sigh.... look, I know I got issues.  That incident when I was younger when (censorship inserted) really messed with me psychologically.  I feel a complete lack of control in my life and so, I've overcompensated by being overbearing online, and creating absurd rules as a mean to force people to bend to my will and I've then acted offended like they were Benedict Arnold whenever they did violate my, at times, overly harsh rules. 

I genuinely thought I was doing good and had all the answers but, now I see I wasn't.  I just trying to force everyone to emulate me and my own belief system, a behavior which is incredibly narcisssistic and similar to how dictators would often behave.

I certainly am no Stalin or Saddam, but I see now that I have behaved like an internet tyrant and for that I deeply apologize.

I understand now that I have been behaving wrongly.... whatever else, this board first and foremost should be about the Quest for Glory fandom!  That's more important than me and all my problems!  But my problems are getting in thw ay of that and that really breaks my heart!

Now, as for QFG 4.5....  I've created ONE topic where it can be discussed, as a compromise.  I won't shut this topic down either.  If the Coles permit discussion of that game on their forum then, by the Hellenistic Gods of Greece, I will not defy Their Will.

I actually did finally play the game and.... I still think it sucks.  But that's just my opinion!  I won't throw anybody's account into an internet bonfire just because they don't see eye to eye with me 100%!  There's no need to punish others for disagreeing with me, I see that now.  The world is composed of ying and yang and my instance of pure-ying (as defined by me) and crushing all yang, I see, is leading to chaos on this board.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ODjWtoViNSQ# (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ODjWtoViNSQ#)

I was wrong.  I see now that my behavior is like how Bernard would run a message board.  From henceforth, I shall strive to be more like Elsa.

Should I pose for pictures with me in a warrior thong leotard?  Only if people want me to, and I look hot!  If I don't then I'll hit the gym and get a smoking body and then do so.

Haha, just kidding! (or am I?)

But, hot warrior thong leotard outfit aside, Elsa is a warrior of pure honor and grace, and I shall strive to live up to her example!

For, if there be a better example, it would be the Paladin.  And the Paladin is all about honor.  A paladin may be offended by QFG 4.5 but ultimately, I know that he would respect the creator's right to freedom of speech no matter how much it might offend him.

And so- ALL ARE UNBANNED!  ALL ARE WELCOME BACK!

I declare a new Golden Age in the Quest for Glory Fandom, for.... I love you all! :) <3


P.S.- Seriously though, I'll post in a hot warrior thong leotard in Deviant Art pictures if anyone really wants me to! (does anyone want me to?  Anyone?)

P.P.S.- I'm being very serious guys! ;)"


And with that, she could win back all her lost respect.  8)
Title: Re: Quest For Gory 4.5 inspired this?
Post by: Blackthorne on June 08, 2014, 02:38:58 PM
Really, I think leaving her alone and not engaging her is the proper course of action here; someone so unreasonable does not deserve your attention, and there's plenty of better things to do on the internet.  It's a lot of time to waste on someone who is really nothing more than a fly in someone elses ointment.


Bt
Title: Re: Quest For Gory 4.5 inspired this?
Post by: Orion on June 08, 2014, 06:01:22 PM
She's tried contacting me a few times.  The one time was practically saying "It's still your fault, but you're the only one who likes these forums as much as me.  I need somebody to take care of it in case I die."

Not once have I replied.  I'm better off without her volatility in my life.  And that's coming after talking to her at least 5 days out of the week for YEARS.
Title: Re: Quest For Gory 4.5 inspired this?
Post by: Blackthorne on June 08, 2014, 06:40:14 PM
Yeah, you know Orion, you just don't need to be dragged down in her stuff.  Maybe, hopefully, she can work through her issues - and her anti-social behavior.  Running a forum and belonging to a community requires that you be a bit more welcoming of people and their ideas... it is all subject to your whims, but there comes a point where you shouldn't be a despot but a uniter.  Or some crap like that, I dunno!  QFG fans come in all shapes and sizes, I suppose, heh. 

Bt
Title: Re: Quest For Gory 4.5 inspired this?
Post by: Orion on June 08, 2014, 06:47:04 PM
All that was just a long winded way of "She don't got issues, she's got a lifetime subscription," and "Why can't we all just get along?"

But yeah, she's not the only volatile person in my life I've had to cut out this year.  Anxiety's not fun to deal with, and getting out some of the sources of it is a glorious feeling.
Title: Re: Quest For Gory 4.5 inspired this?
Post by: Bad2DaBone on June 09, 2014, 09:48:43 PM
Btw, I've always thought that QFG 4.5 song could be improved upon if they were to use a vuvuzuela-rendition of the theme song.
Title: Re: Quest For Gory 4.5 inspired this?
Post by: Collector on June 09, 2014, 10:15:22 PM
She's tried contacting me a few times.  The one time was practically saying "It's still your fault, but you're the only one who likes these forums as much as me.  I need somebody to take care of it in case I die."

Social media like Facebook is part of the reason that the forums are so dead, but sowing discourse makes for an uninviting venue that makes people avoid it, even if the vitriol is not directed at them. Owners of forums have to realize that a healthy forum belongs not only to the owner of the site, but also to the members that make up the community. The owner may be the final arbiter, but they must balance that against the communities needs and opinions. Otherwise, why even create a community? Make it uncomfortable enough just brings people to the point of saying let it die.

That said, there are other forums for QfG. You can direct people to the QfG forum on SHP for that matter.
Title: Re: Quest For Gory 4.5 inspired this?
Post by: Bad2DaBone on July 19, 2014, 03:05:17 PM
([url]http://www.corbydesigns.com/libnote.png[/url])


I have to ask but.... which game is this from anyway?  When I saw this picture long ago I thought it was from Quest from Infamy as I didn't look closely at the guy/?'s cape.  I was about to make a "what the hell I did everything I could in QFI and been everywhere but I haven't seen this" and i just now realized this is from a different game.

Whatever game this is from, I so want to play it!  ;D
Title: Re: Quest For Gory 4.5 inspired this?
Post by: Lambonius on July 19, 2014, 03:35:05 PM
That's from Heroine's Quest, by Crystal Shard.  You should go download it right now.  It's freeware, and awesome.  One of the same artists worked on QFI, too.
Title: Re: Quest For Gory 4.5 inspired this?
Post by: Bad2DaBone on July 19, 2014, 03:45:04 PM
I'll do that next weekend or so.

I need some time to detox, I've been playing QFI for over a week now and I'm on game-overload.

I am going to finish up testing a few more things in QFI.

After that, I'll probably come back to the game in December- see what's new in the game with all the patch stuff.
Title: Re: Quest For Gory 4.5 inspired this?
Post by: Bad2DaBone on August 03, 2014, 01:34:50 AM
I've been playing HQ.... the game is a LOT of fun playing as a Warrior.

Anyway, I'm at the library.  I noticed there was a shoutout to Quest for Infamy in one of the books!  8)


I'm curious there, where or where is that note located for "So you thought you were a Hero?" in the library?  I've searched all of the place there but I still have not found it yet.
Title: Re: Quest For Gory 4.5 inspired this?
Post by: Blake00 on August 10, 2014, 03:58:07 AM
Finally caught up on this thread.


lol Bad2dabone your Elsa letter cracked me up.


Sadly it appears Orion has forgiven her again, she's just gonna burn you again my friend. No heartfelt apology or guilt trip she can put together is gonna magically change who she is.
Title: Re: Quest For Gory 4.5 inspired this?
Post by: garr on August 10, 2014, 02:16:15 PM
I've noticed that in the credits, Jane Jensen is listed. Decided to see what she's up to now days and she has a new point and click game titled Moebius: Empire Rising. The videos look pretty good.
Title: Re: Re: Quest For Gory 4.5 inspired this?
Post by: Blackthorne on August 10, 2014, 08:28:21 PM
I've noticed that in the credits, Jane Jensen is listed. Decided to see what she's up to now days and she has a new point and click game titled Moebius: Empire Rising. The videos look pretty good.

Moebius is published by our common publisher, Phoenix Online.  Shawn and I had the opportunity to meet Jane and work alongside her at GDC.  It was very cool to meet, work and hang out with an old Sierra alum as a peer.


Bt
Title: Re: Re: Quest For Gory 4.5 inspired this?
Post by: Bad2DaBone on August 13, 2014, 02:52:39 AM
Finally caught up on this thread.


lol Bad2dabone your Elsa letter cracked me up.


Sadly it appears Orion has forgiven her again, she's just gonna burn you again my friend. No heartfelt apology or guilt trip she can put together is gonna magically change who she is.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8x525Tk7KpI#ws (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8x525Tk7KpI#ws)