Gnoll question

[Bad2DaBone]

I'm kind worried this might be a case of "The final puzzle in LSL 2 EGA" so I'm just going to ask it....  I still count this as hardcore mode though, since this looks like a bug.


I have EVERY item from the tobacco shop.  I've talked to the fat adventurer dude about gnolls, read about them liking smokes at the library, and exhausted all conversation options with the gnoll.

He won't accept any of my items, and only says "I don't want that shit" if I try to give him a cigar.  The other options yell at me to try talking to him more. but I only have 4 conversation topics that I've exhausted with him.


Did I just encounter a bug or something?

Or do I need to keep exploring to find something else to give him? 

I don't need the exact answer to the puzzle, I just want to know if the tobacco shop has what I need to solve it and if I'm just trapped cause of a bug or something, cause the game seems to suggest that I have exactly what he wants.

[Lambonius]

I'm kind worried this might be a case of "The final puzzle in LSL 2 EGA" so I'm just going to ask it....  I still count this as hardcore mode though, since this looks like a bug.


I have EVERY item from the tobacco shop.  I've talked to the fat adventurer dude about gnolls, read about them liking smokes at the library, and exhausted all conversation options with the gnoll.

He won't accept any of my items, and only says "I don't want that shit" if I try to give him a cigar.  The other options yell at me to try talking to him more. but I only have 4 conversation topics that I've exhausted with him.


Did I just encounter a bug or something?

Or do I need to keep exploring to find something else to give him? 

I don't need the exact answer to the puzzle, I just want to know if the tobacco shop has what I need to solve it and if I'm just trapped cause of a bug or something, cause the game seems to suggest that I have exactly what he wants.

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I think the problem here is that you haven't discovered that you NEED to get a specific item from him yet.  Once Roehm knows this, the interactions should work as intended--and yes there are two specific items from the tobacco shop you need to give him.  The cigar isn't one of them though.  I'm not 100% sure this is the issue here, but I'm guessing it's the case, since you only have 4 dialog options.  You should be able to ask him about Family Seal Piece (or something similar--can't remember the exact wording) but only after Roehm has found out about the Family Seal pieces in-game.

[Bad2DaBone]

Okay, that makes sense.  I'm actually looking for that 2nd crest piece right now, stuck on the jelly cube. (I think I can figure that one out on my own, but I'm not above the QFI hintline if I absolutely have to.)

I still think puzzle's still pretty confusing though.

Maybe if it said something like, "You get the impression that this might be a good idea but this isn't the right time for this," would be nice to implement in a future patch.

[sickfiction]

Did the QFI Hintline make it in game?

[Lambonius]

Do you

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have the letter about the 4 crest pieces in your inventory?


I believe that's the trigger for being able to ask the gnoll about the crest piece.  If not, there's another plot-important event you have yet to trigger.  Some research at the library, some exploration of settlements on the grasslands, and confrontation of a certain someone at a certain tower bridge should push you in the right direction. 

[Blackthorne]

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You have to have talked to Martin Japsworth and shown the diary to Hummel.

Bt

[Bad2DaBone]

One last question- where do I go with that damned necklace?

That damned bitch in the green bikini basically told me to "wear it everywhere in the game until something happens."



I already have explored everywhere in the game that I can so far- I did that in case I needed something to kill the jelly monster. (which I just did)  I may be hardcore but I don't want to spend 60 minutes walking into every area in the game again since that's basically the puzzle according to her.

I'm going to talk to that wizard guy for now.

[Lambonius]

One last question- where do I go with that damned necklace?

That damned bitch in the green bikini basically told me to "wear it everywhere in the game until something happens."

 

I already have explored everywhere in the game that I can so far- I did that in case I needed something to kill the jelly monster. (which I just did)  I may be hardcore but I don't want to spend 60 minutes walking into every area in the game again since that's basically the puzzle according to her.

I'm going to talk to that wizard guy for now.

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Check out the woods north and east of Volksville--listen for the music to change to a mysterious tune.  That means you're getting close.  When you're on the right screen, the narrator will say something about it--then you just need to interact a bit with the scenery there.


Remember, you're looking for a burial cairn, which is typically made of stone--in this case, it was also meant to blend into the landscape.  It's very likely on a screen you've passed through many times before... 

[Bad2DaBone]

Ah thank you.  Since this was just a "explore everything" puzzle, I had no trouble asking.

Well, my hardcore (minus getting answers to a pseudo-bug and saving an hour of walking everywhere) quest continues! 

[Bad2DaBone]

Can you be more specific about where in the woods?  I keep hearing harp sound effects, but i'm unsure if that's necklace-related.  So it's just east of dead helmet guy?

Also, I may have skipped over the narrator's dialogue and I'm not sure if it'll come back again if I'm in the right area.

[Lambonius]

Can you be more specific about where in the woods?  I keep hearing harp sound effects, but i'm unsure if that's necklace-related.  So it's just east of dead helmet guy?

Also, I may have skipped over the narrator's dialogue and I'm not sure if it'll come back again if I'm in the right area.

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There's a crossroads just east of the dead helmet guy that has a big stone in the middle.  That's your spot.  The music change happens on every screen north, south, east, or west of that one--and then it gets loud and the narrator comments on the screen with the big stone.

[Bad2DaBone]

I think there's another bug cause I only see the narrator message if I use the hand icon on the giant rock.  Even reloading to just before I get the necklace from green bikini girl (one of my favorite colors) it still doesn't pop up.

Oh, and thanks for all the responses.

[Bad2DaBone]

Ah crap, I'm getting that "you have to find something or someone else" message when I put the necklace on the rock.

Is this another thing like with the gnoll where it won't let you do it until you've done something else?

[Lambonius]

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Silly question: Did you click the necklace on yourself to wear it before entering the screen with the big rock?


The other thing that might be affecting it is whether or not you've confronted Hummel with his father's diary yet.  That's the other big plot-related event that needs to be triggered before the game will let you progress in some areas.

[Bad2DaBone]

Yes I did.  I'm wearing the necklace.  I actually left the screen, removed it, then put it on back again before going to the log-rock.

Wait, did I just encounter some kind of bug?

[Bad2DaBone]

Okay, I think I'm good to go!

I kinda ignored the old gypsy fart's "stone" remark earlier since I thought it was a reference to where the first crest piece is, but I now understand what he's talking about.

You guys are cryptic/vague with your answers, lol.  Nintendo Hotline used to be the same sometimes.

[Lambonius]

Well you DID say you wanted to be hardcore! 

[Bad2DaBone]

I did, aye.

The ideal solution for the gnoll would be to be able to give him tobacco early, but for him to say something like.

"If you ever need a favor that only I can grant, and not any of my treasure, I'll be happy to help you."

[Lambonius]

I did, aye.

The ideal solution for the gnoll would be to be able to give him tobacco early, but for him to say something like.

"If you ever need a favor that only I can grant, and not any of my treasure, I'll be happy to help you."

That's not a bad idea.  We'll look at again when we do our next update--we've got a few things to patch anyway.  Thanks for the suggestion!