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Title: Breaking Bad......thoughts? (MASSIVE SPOILERS INSIDE)
Post by: Chadly on August 13, 2013, 03:41:42 PM
    So what are your thoughts on the show Breaking Bad?  I myself have been a Huge fan of the show since its beginning.  The writing and acting are top notch to say the least.  For those who live in a cave or desert somewhere, the show covers the downward spiral of a 50 year old hs chemistry teacher Walter White, who has cancer and decides to make meth to support his family after his death.


   The show itself is groundbreaking in several ways.  It has graphic violence, profanity, sexual situations, and other Mature elements.  It's definitely Not for kids or children.


   What do you think will happend to Walt?  As this is the final season here are my predictions.

   I am rooting for Walt to survive cancer and the law.  I beleive that Jesse will die somehow.  I think Walt will end up killing hank (his DEA brother In law).  However Walt may finally succumb to his cancer or be killed by competitors in the drug trade.  I could go on and on about this show I Love it! :)

Title: Re: Breaking Bad......thoughts? (MASSIVE SPOILERS INSIDE)
Post by: Lambonius on August 13, 2013, 04:01:49 PM
I liked the first season well enough, but I quickly lost interest after that.  I absolutely despise media that glamorizes drugs, the drug trade, the drug lifestyle, etc., and despite the relatively strong writing, this show does a lot of that in spades.  I don't consider it necessarily ground-breaking, at least not for the reasons you mentioned.  I don't know, it's really just a big "Meh" for me.
Title: Re: Breaking Bad......thoughts? (MASSIVE SPOILERS INSIDE)
Post by: Goatmeal on August 13, 2013, 04:33:37 PM
Never watched the show, but I like the theory that Breaking Bad is the prequel to Malcolm In The Middle, where Walt becomes "Hal" in Wit Sec protection...
Title: Re: Breaking Bad......thoughts? (MASSIVE SPOILERS INSIDE)
Post by: chucklas on August 13, 2013, 05:33:02 PM
I really like the show.  I don't feel as though it glamorizes drugs or anything close to it.  If anything it has shown that drugs DESTROY anything and everything good in a person.  I love the show for that reason.  I started out really liking Walt and not so much Jesse, but over time it has completely gone the other way.  The character development has been incredible from start to present.
Title: Re: Breaking Bad......thoughts? (MASSIVE SPOILERS INSIDE)
Post by: Collector on August 14, 2013, 12:11:40 PM
I liked it at first. It was fascinating watching his transformation from meek high school teacher. I lost interest after the end of Gus when the transformation became complete. At that point there was nothing left to identify with, so I no longer cared what happened to him.
Title: Re: Breaking Bad......thoughts? (MASSIVE SPOILERS INSIDE)
Post by: Quest For Glory Fan on August 17, 2013, 08:33:21 AM
My prediction is that Jesse will end up killing Walt and Hank will somehow be involved and tell him about Jane or Mike or some other terrible deed. Jesse will probably get arrested and might kill himself, there's also room for Hank to die a hero's death somewhere but I wouldn't completely count on it.

We'll see, it's been a great ride so far and it has been getting better every season.
Title: Re: Breaking Bad......thoughts? (MASSIVE SPOILERS INSIDE)
Post by: Bad2DaBone on September 02, 2013, 01:01:02 AM
I want Walt to win... the bad guy doesn't always need to get his comeuppance.

"Snitches are bitches that get stitches and wind up in ditches."  I hope the Neo-Nazis seriously mess up Jesse, Jesse's a punk for turning on Heisenberg and wanting to burn down his house.

I don't usually root for the villain but this show really makes you want to root for Walt!  ;D ;D
Title: Re: Breaking Bad......thoughts? (MASSIVE SPOILERS INSIDE)
Post by: sickfiction on September 02, 2013, 10:44:20 AM
I couldn't disagree more bad2dabone.
Title: Re: Breaking Bad......thoughts? (MASSIVE SPOILERS INSIDE)
Post by: Blackthorne on September 02, 2013, 10:47:58 AM
Yeah - Walt is not the hero of this series.


Bt
Title: Re: Breaking Bad......thoughts? (MASSIVE SPOILERS INSIDE)
Post by: chucklas on September 02, 2013, 12:08:45 PM
Yeah, I hate Walt at this point.  The winner in this show is the message that drugs destroy everything and everyone that gets mixed up in them. 
Title: Re: Breaking Bad......thoughts? (MASSIVE SPOILERS INSIDE)
Post by: Bad2DaBone on September 02, 2013, 01:49:33 PM
Are you kidding?  Walt is awesome!   ;D  His only problem is he's been too soft on Hank and Jesse in the past.  Their lack of understanding is forcing the poor guy to become more ruthless to protect himself and his family.
Title: Re: Breaking Bad......thoughts? (MASSIVE SPOILERS INSIDE)
Post by: sickfiction on September 02, 2013, 02:20:23 PM
Everything that comes out of walts mouth is a lie. that to me is worse than the drug empire thing. he's become a total shit and i don't have any sympathy left for him.
Title: Re: Breaking Bad......thoughts? (MASSIVE SPOILERS INSIDE)
Post by: Blackthorne on September 02, 2013, 02:27:49 PM
Yeah, Walt "broke bad".  A long time ago.


Bt
Title: Re: Breaking Bad......thoughts? (MASSIVE SPOILERS INSIDE)
Post by: Collector on September 03, 2013, 12:55:58 PM
Now that there is nothing left but the bad, there is nothing left to empathize or identify with Walt. This makes the show not worth the time. Evil without complexities or some facet you can identify with is completely boring.
Title: Re: Breaking Bad......thoughts? (MASSIVE SPOILERS INSIDE)
Post by: Bad2DaBone on September 08, 2013, 10:58:54 PM
Now that there is nothing left but the bad, there is nothing left to empathize or identify with Walt. This makes the show not worth the time. Evil without complexities or some facet you can identify with is completely boring.

Come on!  Did you see Walt?  He was practically a saint how he attempted to spare Hank's life- repeatedly!

You're so busy villifying the poor old man you can't see all the goodness inside him!
Title: Re: Breaking Bad......thoughts? (MASSIVE SPOILERS INSIDE)
Post by: Goatmeal on September 09, 2013, 11:05:31 PM

Come on!  Did you see Walt?  He was practically a saint how he attempted to spare Hank's life- repeatedly!

You're so busy villifying the poor old man you can't see all the goodness inside him!

Bad2DaBone: "There is still good in him."

Every other IQ forum member: "He's more machine now than man.  Twisted and evil."   :D
Title: Re: Breaking Bad......thoughts? (MASSIVE SPOILERS INSIDE)
Post by: sickfiction on September 10, 2013, 12:05:19 AM
No for once I think I agree with Mr Badbone . Walt is probably gonna try and save hank...  After all family is everything.
Title: Re: Breaking Bad......thoughts? (MASSIVE SPOILERS INSIDE)
Post by: Quest For Glory Fan on September 10, 2013, 12:13:13 AM
Of course we love Walt, we hate Heisenberg. To me there's a very clear distinction and you can see it when he lies to Skylar. There is still a lot of good in him and poor Walt is buried under mountains of Heisenberg's lies.
Title: Re: Breaking Bad......thoughts? (MASSIVE SPOILERS INSIDE)
Post by: sickfiction on September 10, 2013, 12:47:44 AM
Nah not buying it QuestFGF he's a lucid guy he knows who he is, what he's done, he's just an egomaniac that can't accept that he's ever wrong. Most of the time he's right science and logic wise, but he's messed up emotionally. He can't accept that what he's doing is wrong. This ain't no reverse fight-club where you realise there were two people all along.
Title: Re: Breaking Bad......thoughts? (MASSIVE SPOILERS INSIDE)
Post by: Bad2DaBone on September 10, 2013, 01:51:31 AM
No for once I think I agree with Mr Badbone . Walt is probably gonna try and save hank...  After all family is everything.

"For once" you agree with me?  You should agree with me all the time!  Because I'm always right about everything!  8)
Title: Re: Breaking Bad......thoughts? (MASSIVE SPOILERS INSIDE)
Post by: chucklas on September 12, 2013, 01:48:15 PM
This is where Jesse broke bad about 10 years ago...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bf7YF8DAwjk#ws (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bf7YF8DAwjk#ws)
Title: Re: Breaking Bad......thoughts? (MASSIVE SPOILERS INSIDE)
Post by: Bad2DaBone on September 15, 2013, 10:36:28 PM
Those Nazis just sealed their fate.

Shame on ya'll for hating on good ol' Walt earlier!  Walt always puts family first and foremost, even above business!

As for the Nazis, he's going to poison them all, capture back all his loot, leave it all to his family, then walk out into the desert, only to smoke a poison cigarette and die just right before the pigs can nab him!

Walt is a pure BAMF and you all better recognize!  ;D
Title: Re: Breaking Bad......thoughts? (MASSIVE SPOILERS INSIDE)
Post by: SarahLiz on September 16, 2013, 09:58:24 PM
Gahh...  Some of my friends have been trying to get me to watch this series on Netflix for some time now, and I was planning to start it but now not so sure I should...skerred!! :o
Title: Re: Breaking Bad......thoughts? (MASSIVE SPOILERS INSIDE)
Post by: Bad2DaBone on September 17, 2013, 01:36:20 AM
Breaking Bad is way too scary for you, yes.  You should play this game instead!

http://www.gog.com/game/i_have_no_mouth_and_i_must_scream (http://www.gog.com/game/i_have_no_mouth_and_i_must_scream)

It's very fun, light and relaxing, I just know you'll love it!  ;D
Title: Re: Breaking Bad......thoughts? (MASSIVE SPOILERS INSIDE)
Post by: Bad2DaBone on September 17, 2013, 02:15:35 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k6Mh7hhaqhk# (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k6Mh7hhaqhk#)


"In another state, another time and space,
A science teacher was fallin' on his face,
When suffering cancer, how else could he make money?
To help pay for his chemotherapy?

By becoming...
Mr. Heisenberg!  Heisenberg!  Aka Walter O'White!
Mexicans and Chileans and DEA Agents beware!
You're looking for adventure? Well, this is it,
With Jesse, Badger, Combo and Skinny Pete!

I said Mr. Heisenberg!  Heisenberg!  Aka Walter O'White!
“And now, an update on Mr. Heisenberg and the Meth Menace!”

In the streets of Alburquerque, you don't know what's next,
You only know Neo-Nazis have fucked up your shit!
When you check out your cancer diagnosis and the danger you expect,
There's only one course of action: Let's sell us some meth!

Mr. Heisenberg!  Heisenberg!  Aka Walter O'White!
He goes where no ordinary drug dealer would dare!
He's so awesome he can make two planes crash in the air!
If Jesse's Righteous Indignation has suffered a hit!
And Skyler's acting like a complete fucking bitch!
And you're losing your mind, and you're having a fit!
Call the funky fresh lawyer Saul whose cellphone can help take care of it!

Mr. Heisenberg!  Heisenberg!  Aka Walter O'White!
You say Heisenberg!  I said Heisenberg!
Walter O'White!
Let's sell us some meth!

(BOOM!)
Title: Re: Breaking Bad......thoughts? (MASSIVE SPOILERS INSIDE)
Post by: SarahLiz on September 17, 2013, 02:47:31 PM
Breaking Bad is way too scary for you, yes.  You should play this game instead!

[url]http://www.gog.com/game/i_have_no_mouth_and_i_must_scream[/url] ([url]http://www.gog.com/game/i_have_no_mouth_and_i_must_scream[/url])

It's very fun, light and relaxing, I just know you'll love it!  ;D



Just because you said that, now I'm going to have to watch it.
Title: Re: Breaking Bad......thoughts? (MASSIVE SPOILERS INSIDE)
Post by: Blackthorne on September 17, 2013, 04:15:50 PM
As they say in sassy-feel-good movies....

"You go, girl!"


Bt
Title: Re: Breaking Bad......thoughts? (MASSIVE SPOILERS INSIDE)
Post by: Bad2DaBone on September 22, 2013, 10:39:44 PM
He shoulda ratted out the Nazis... he got too greedy.  Now his son thinks he killed Uncle Hank. :(

This all kinda reminds me of GTA.
Title: Re: Breaking Bad......thoughts? (MASSIVE SPOILERS INSIDE)
Post by: sickfiction on September 23, 2013, 01:43:48 AM
He shoulda ratted out the Nazis... he got too greedy.  Now his son thinks he killed Uncle Hank. :(

This all kinda reminds me of GTA.
Nothing like this happens in the Greater Toronto Area... Oh wait...
Title: Re: Breaking Bad......thoughts? (MASSIVE SPOILERS INSIDE)
Post by: Bad2DaBone on September 23, 2013, 02:26:02 AM
I do feel real bad for Jesse....  Man, I'm finally starting to turn on Walt.  It's not his fault what went down, but that psycho child-killer...

Jesus, seeing Todd makes you wonder how many pure-evil people are out there that never get a chance to act out their sickness.  I really want him to suffer in the final episode.
Title: Re: Breaking Bad......thoughts? (MASSIVE SPOILERS INSIDE)
Post by: Bad2DaBone on September 30, 2013, 01:30:20 AM
Walter went out like a pimp, and the Neo-Nazi basturd Todd got choked to death, and Jesse got to ride off in the sunset back in his millions to adopt that little kid and finally make right in his life.  All's well that ends well, I know those Nazis were fucked the moment they messed with Mr. Heisenberg. 

The ending was.....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X9bOsdHckhg# (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X9bOsdHckhg#)

BREAKING BAD TO THE BONE!


/-\
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 8)
Title: Re: Breaking Bad......thoughts? (MASSIVE SPOILERS INSIDE)
Post by: chucklas on September 30, 2013, 07:57:48 AM
Not really sure how you figure Jesse had millions to do anything with....

I was actually disappointed that Walter got to go out on his own terms having made everything "right" in his head.  They did plenty to tie up loose ends, but I don't like that in his own mind he had won.  In time it might grow on me, but my initial impression wasn't great.
Title: Re: Breaking Bad......thoughts? (MASSIVE SPOILERS INSIDE)
Post by: Bad2DaBone on September 30, 2013, 10:51:16 AM
Saul got all Jesse's money back and somehow dropped the charges.

Him and that little kid are going to move to New Zealand and start over, and Walt Jr. is going to be a multi-millionaire.

All's well that ends well for Mr. Heisenberg!  8)
Title: Re: Breaking Bad......thoughts? (MASSIVE SPOILERS INSIDE)
Post by: Bad2DaBone on September 30, 2013, 11:29:51 AM

I was actually disappointed that Walter got to go out on his own terms having made everything "right" in his head.  They did plenty to tie up loose ends, but I don't like that in his own mind he had won.  In time it might grow on me, but my initial impression wasn't great.

Title: Re: Breaking Bad......thoughts? (MASSIVE SPOILERS INSIDE)
Post by: sickfiction on September 30, 2013, 12:21:22 PM
I'm with the majority of the world thinking it was a perfect ending. In the end,Walt ONLY ever killed bad people. All his victims were evil or Without morals. He became a bad person but for the right reasons. He redeemed himself in the final couple of episodes. I'm very satisfied.
Title: Re: Breaking Bad......thoughts? (MASSIVE SPOILERS INSIDE)
Post by: chucklas on September 30, 2013, 02:05:38 PM
Walt only killed bad people, but had he not done what he did, many good people would have lived.  Walt's actions made him responsible for Hank, Jesse's girlfriend (can't remember her name), the other chemist that Jessie killed (his name slips my mind too...long day), all of the people on the airplane, not to mention that Jesse's life would have never gone that far either.  Jane wasn't a "bad person" either.  I HATE that he ended up getting what he wanted in the end.  It makes sense for the show, and they did an amazing job making things work out, but I felt that at the end, they justified what he did, and that to me made the whole show miss the mark I thought they were trying to hit all along.
Title: Re: Breaking Bad......thoughts? (MASSIVE SPOILERS INSIDE)
Post by: sickfiction on September 30, 2013, 02:49:10 PM
I don't see what an alternate ending would be, the neo nazis live? Jesse remain in servitude, lydia still pulling the strings? I'm glad Jesse defied Walt in having him kill him, Jesse was the only real good guy (of all the bad guys) - who got mixed up with the wrong crowd.
Title: Re: Breaking Bad......thoughts? (MASSIVE SPOILERS INSIDE)
Post by: chucklas on September 30, 2013, 03:39:50 PM
I totally agree that the way they ended made the most sense for the show, but I don't have to like it! 

To be honest, I don't see any other way they could have ended it either.  Unless they wanted to go the route of "The Wire" and show that even with all the main players out of the game, someone else steps in and it just keeps on going.  I would have been fine with everyone ending up dead (including Jesse) and Walt's family with nothing and Lydia being around to keep things going as she made new contacts...etc.  It just irked me that Walt was able to control things in the end.  To me the message was that the drugs/drug trade ruined lives and things never work out as planned, even when the plan is fool proof.  The ending suggests otherwise.