Revisiting the five steps to BT

[Kaldire]

i skipped through convos just not the intro ones or any cinematic animations .. like the execution or such

[Goatmeal]

heya goatmeal

i get lost now in the numbers as there really is about 7-8 steps not 5 lol

step 4 is the book? that has like 2 steps just alone
and I think i was one of the first to figure that sucker out just from knowing a bit about alice and putting pieces together

yea nameless one of those IS correct, sooo something musta gone wrong in the intro or the other 2 steps which you seem to know .. so its a bit confusing

and yes the book is ALWAYS there, so if you went there and entered anything .. it will mess up the bt hunt

Just following BT's suggestion of steps from Sept 6:   

As you list it, step 1-2 are just step 1.  Your step 3, garr is step 2, step 4 is step 3, step 5 is step 4.... the final step, miriya is very very close on!  Step 5 is perhaps the trickiest;  for those who are patient, you wait for XX to mark the spot.

1) Credits/Intro
2) Gadget
3) Fire
4) Those who know, will (Dodgson)
5) The Final Step for the patient.


Bt

[natewolfe]

I'm only doing bare bones game side-quests and such until I've done the moonshiner in act 2 and got to the book... Don't want to waste any time in case I messed something up again... I accidentally clicked through part of the execution, so hopefully that won't mess me up... I should be able to do Killington's crest and get into act 2 and do the moonshiner and book tonight. Will have to wait until my kid goes to bed tonight, but I think I can still get to it.

BT - can you confirm whether or not you can skip convos and such, with the exception of the prologue? I watched everything up until after the credits and you flee from the baron and talk to Udo in Volksville, but kinda skipped through a bunch of stuff after that... Do I have to watch everything (conversations, execution) or is it just the intro, credits and Udo convo that you have to watch?

[natewolfe]

At this point i think it must be something with skipping the "cinematics"...?

Are you playing the Steam version or the GOG version? Devs, is there a difference between the two?

[chucklas]

No difference between the versions.  I am guessing you either missed the first step, or are not getting the right phrase in the book. 

[natewolfe]

Can anyone confirm what we can "skip" or rush through, and what we have to watch? It seems like it's step 1 that we're messing up on...

[natewolfe]

PS I'm positive I have the right phrase...

[natewolfe]

Can any of the Devs confirm or deny the whole skipping cinematics thing? Much appreciated! :-)

[Kaldire]

nameless..
no clue where you are going wrong

again idk  for the safe, I did that 3rd,  and i put in a random number THEN the code given

what was your step 1.. 2 and 3?

nate,  that was just me, according to everyone so far, the only one you cant skip is well you know

steam vs gog in terms of game? no diff, i did it on both copies, same way
gog has other diffs but nothing IN game, like extras and no drm or need for online etc
but no cool cards or backgrounds either

again I did moonshiner 2nd and bank 3rd.. not the other way around, and again works just fine and i did a rush play on it again..

oh and nameless, I didnt even do any quests in act 2 in terms of tyr or rayford, didnt even go in his office,
so no need to do slave anything or anything as such to get to bt or iq bar

[Kaldire]

first mate tttrrry to calm down, trust me I know how flustering egg hunts can be

no one is hiding anything from you, no vast conspiracy..
I did also try switching the atm and the moonshiner, but I did both in ACT2 not that it should matter
ive yet to test doing the atm in act1 then moon in act 2 but it should work according to all here

idk mate seems just like something you are missing..
id be happy to look at a save, not sure if bt is ok with that or if he would, but shrug
at this point it seems you know the steps and what to put in the book,
imo im not sure what the issue truly is..

[chucklas]

Ok, just to help you out.  There is no reason to restart a game at any point until Step 4 (unless you missed step 1).


The order of steps 2 and 3 can be skipped as step 4 checks to make sure 1, 2 and 3 have been done (not order dependent).


This is why I am guessing you are not getting the correct phrase in the book.  PM me the list you tried and I can confirm if you did indeed get it wrong.


Also, you can keep typing in the book without a need to restore.  The only time you would need to restore is if you get the puzzle after the book wrong (as there is only one attempt there), or if you aren't patient in step 5.

[natewolfe]

This game has inspired me to grow a beard, lol... So now I have a beard. "I grew it myself!"

[natewolfe]

On this play through I'm documenting literally everything, so you guys can tell me if I truly missed something

[chucklas]

You have the right phrase in there.  Are you using the attack cursor on the moonshiner?  Not sure what else it could be.

[Kaldire]

yea chucklas I talked to them tooo!
no clue whats up

even asked for a save game,
im thinking i dont know but

I played with the fish on the wall at brattles then I would wait until act 2 to even touch the atm AFTER i flamed the moonshiner..
then went to da book tada..

if the game has the dat files, maybe backup those and erase em?
not sure if something is triggered in there, but it shouldnt be 
WARNING this will erase in game achievements

oh as for the beardy
I can grow one in about 1 week!
bt.. how do you get past that phase where you scratch it and play with it and it gets ingrown or red etc
i had a beard for 1 year + never got used to it, so i took that sucker off
like a very annoying piercing 
had to take all those out too i just mess with stuff to much as you can prolly tell from how I post lol

or maybe I drank to much starbucks with it.. hence scratchin haha
what doth thou useith on thy beard to make it soft  like a teddy bear!
inquiring minds... want to know!