urmm are you aware that the Mexicans are now and have been leaving usa to go back to mexico as its becoming a better country than usa in some parts and our economy tanked? border control is now mostly Hindu and middle eastern people and Russians not much else..
if it came down to higher or insane 80+% taxes and free school, jobs, healthcare,transport, sitters for kids etc
id take the higher taxes its why i mentioned finland,
as for everything costs more, well ive traveled but never lived in other countries but ive been almost everywhere even the middle east AND russia,
I can tell you most of those govs SUCK so badly and kill people like murder just say for leaving a religion or hell if I said what I am now in most places like that id be took out and shot or hung
so I do love what usa STOOD for not what it STANDS for
but you have this backwards, the imagrants now, are coming from 3rd world countries to escape and live vs just to get better paying jobs etc
so again mexican workers and immagrants are at an all time low, with most going BACK to mexico even though they were citizens and not many mexicans are even wanting to cross our borders
I can say that south american and other central ameican countries are sending KIDS to our borders
but thats not the same thing,
its not due to a better econmy its to be safer than where they are and to eat
now.. the GBP (and id never live in uk) is worth almost 2 times a usd, hell canadian money is almost that too
so if I made 1000 GBP id buy stuff FROM AMERICA due to it costing HALF even WITH taxes
i think your math is way off on that
and as you said only WE can change it, do you think the revolutionary war would have been won without guns and fighting.. nope..
slavery ended with just legal means? nope..
in the end sure.. in the beginning you need to stand and fight as much as I dislike war the though process I hate to fight the system IS antithetic to my anti war belief.
I can put it this way
remember old nintendo games?
some players get a game, and die lots, what do they do
1. they keep playing the game..
2. they THROW the controller and or break the system
3. this is my option they press RESET and start OVER..
hehe
buuut come on mate, you said it WE change it not our gov..
if only I had the faith in a good system as you do I truly WISH that I did,
but again stuff here doesnt cost more just due to taxes (yes for California!) but go to Oregon.. no taxes on anything but higher land tax
so a uk person who buys something for 50 usd is paying 25GBP + shipping and no tax
unless they use ebay that is
but read up on immigration lately in usa, most are leaving and those that do come, are from india, middle east, or RUSSIA, those places are far worse than usa(though I actually liked india alot, really nice people there)
my dream places to live?
prolly japan (now THAT is high cost of living for rent but low for all other goods and great transport if you like being packed into a sub car with a stick!) lol
or New Zealand NORTH, in the tribal area (off the grid no games no power just a beach)
Foggia or Verona or with really nice cash id love to move with my family on Capri (google that one! originally my family is from Verona and moved to the isle of Capri actually anacapri isnt that a game?)
cost of living there is NUTS but yeaaaaa
no worries there
in italy well post sucks, mafia is half running the place gov is totally messed up randomly but at least there is culture, we dont have that, we do have history but not much on the culture just a mix of everyone's cultures and me no likey that..
bottom line, the high tax in exchange for all that free imo is better than lower tax and nothing free
in the end over in usa an avg person pays out THOUSANDS more than they would paying high taxes for say a home or school and jobs dont get me started our unemployment rate was insane until obama got in office and again i did vote for him, the 1st time, but war.. really.. aahhhh
read up on immigration lately in usa
its really true what im saying about people leaving usa back to their own countries now that usa tanked, of course im sure that will change now that its going back up
thanks to our pres actually,
so yep voting DOES matter, but again i wont vote until someone is worth voting for .. and I dont see that this mid term nor in the near future.
(oh and I did vote on all the flip a districts for bill mahr )
@chucklasis this a joke?
everyone has a right to complain or that defeats freedom of speech,
me I say the gov sucks but Im not sitting here saying NOT TO VOTE, im confused how im now being attacked and told to shut up.. by a member of this team none the less WHAT chucklas? really?
I also had a mortgage and a home before my divorce and at that time the housing TANKED and we lost it, had 129K put into a house and lost it ALL, sooo
but yes mortgages always cost less no matter where you live.
but please, dont say shut up to me mate, I havent done so to you.. or anyone else here
just because I dont vote, you think I cant have a view about the country thats pretty closeminded and again almost preaching in reverse.
this is the exact reason my pops is right about not mentioning politics or religion and or sports
it makes good people conflict even when they like each other
I feel nothing but hate from a few of these posts and I mean direct hate to me not about my views.
kinda.. makes me sad I cant say ,. I dont vote and yes this place needs work.. yes .. yes I can say that without voting.
I vote NONE OF THE ABOVE..
sigh
this thread has almost destroyed my view of a few people here..
not sure how to take this,
shawn and now chuklas, at least chadly says I have the right to my own view .. im just so . sad I even added anything to this thread I should have just let it be.
WHEN SOMEONE is WORTH voting for.. I WILL
ill now stop posting on this thread and let you all be and leave with this
GO VOTE if you want! I ENCOURAGE IT also! But dont ya dare tell anyone they dont have a right to say usa is broken if they didnt vote,
thats just plain jane crazy chuklas now ill go frown that my mini family is bombarding me and telling me how to feel or what to say or not to..
sigh
jebus
I love ya all
seriously now knock it offfffffffffffffff
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