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Re: QFG 4.5 Discussion Part XVIII
« Reply #90 on: October 08, 2014, 09:57:19 AM »
I know those two games are around here somewhere and maybe in the original boxes.

I believe I can play onwards now in Arx, managed to use bone on chair to get all kinds of stuff in inventory, including the super heal. Character still complains about being hungry but hey, at least no starvation.

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Re: QFG 4.5 Discussion Part XVIII
« Reply #91 on: October 08, 2014, 04:29:39 PM »
use a bone?
huh?

and again mate use liberatis. its not just a mod its patching TOOOoooo

i had to eat again just ONCE in the entire game, ever..
shrug

i know all the secrets of arx, sadly
lol

and yea again BAK  is great, the 2nd game not so good but still great vs modern games!

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Re: QFG 4.5 Discussion Part XVIII
« Reply #92 on: October 08, 2014, 06:24:11 PM »
I've done everything, repaired the elevator, etc. Can't see any place to step on the elevator, unless it's not down. No lever to press unless it's on the elevator, which I don't see. There was one room with a bunch of old ropes hanging but apparently doing nothing. I have a second rope... is it used where the hanging ropes are?

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Re: QFG 4.5 Discussion Part XVIII
« Reply #93 on: October 08, 2014, 07:33:47 PM »
ehhh?

you either never played arx before or its been sooooo long , (im talking 20 years) that you forgot

idk i dont think ur that old yet!


you look near the metal pan on the floor (its just metal and a square to stand on)
there is a lever next to it which wont work yet

you take all the stones from the pile on the side of the water wheel, and move them to the other pressure plate..
then you open the door on the wall that is a ledge above (water wheel is on the right hidden door on left with rope)
and that opens, you double click the rope from the INV and then click on the two wheels (it adds this into your LOGBOOK to fix this with a rope (you only need 2 in the entire game) ever... one isnt needed but this is the TUTORIAL on how to use items from the INV to the world, and u have a bad problem if you cant pass that hahah

so use the rope on the two wheels (not the water ones the ones in the metal box)
stand on the metal plate near the tall ledge, and flick the switch (if its not there use wooden stick like you did to get out of the place after slaying the orc)

tadaaa

anyway hope u added liberatis, it really does fix lots more than just the patching mate..

annnyway

also there is enough food in the game for an army, you just havent even made it out of the tutorial yet..

:)

it gets much MUCH harder..
and the game will NOT tell you what to do or where to go

like the girl kidnapped quest, mum cries, you go what up mum!? she says save my baby she is missing

NOW GO FIND HER.. you have no clue where to look unless you wandered around lvl 4-5 before hand.. which most dont get to lvl 4-5 by the time they get that quest!!!

gulp,
also there are places u cant reach EARLY in the game that will kill you right on the spot..
ooops

hehe
love that game sooo much

just wish i could find the code to add that one akbah statue that vanished in my DARN ROOM!
any help there id love it

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Re: QFG 4.5 Discussion Part XVIII
« Reply #94 on: October 09, 2014, 09:51:56 AM »
I didn't know I was supposed to look down to see the lever  :o
Seems like since leaving that level, everything is easier.

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Re: QFG 4.5 Discussion Part XVIII
« Reply #95 on: October 09, 2014, 02:03:40 PM »
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Re: Re: QFG 4.5 Discussion Part XVIII
« Reply #96 on: October 09, 2014, 02:22:41 PM »
just make sure to patch up to date,(seems it is)
and then just use liberatis

http://arx-libertatis.org/
i never died of hunger in the game, only got prompted once ever

to get out u need to go towards the castle and to the inn get papers signed after letting the gnoll go(not the huge troll the little guy trapped in there)
you get papers from a room where a troll is sleeping,
orr..
you can just cast fireball at the gate guard, which is funny...
arx is another one of those almost rogue games that wont hold your hand or show anything on maps etc

soo yea :P  prolly why there are only 4 side quests
1 of which u can fail (finding the little girl) once u get prompted to do so if you dont find her within 10 game minutes she dies.. all fun !
So, which liberates version to use? there are two or three hot fixes. Will using one work on my game already installed? How would I go about installing liberates and will it negate current saves?

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Re: QFG 4.5 Discussion Part XVIII
« Reply #97 on: October 09, 2014, 02:54:58 PM »
urmm there is only 1 ver of liberatis

http://wiki.arx-libertatis.org/Download

1 for 32 bit
1 for 64 bit

then a link to the patch you need but you already have.. 1.21

so really its only 1 version in 2 bit variables for os compatibility..

so if ya got win 7 64 bit, get the 64 bit one..
if you are on that xp rig, get the 32 bit..

as for saves..
right on the site in the FAQ
"
Can savegames from the original Arx Fatalis be used with Arx Libertatis? Yes. Unlike the original Arx Fatalis, savegames are stored in per-user locations rather than the installation directory (although that mode is supported too for portable setups). Move or copy the save directory to the user directory described in Data directories. The filenames need to be converted to lower-case or Arx Libertatis might not find them.
However the reverse is not true: Due to the proprietary compression algorithm used by Arx Fatalis, savegames written by Arx Libertatis cannot be loaded in the original game. The technical changes to the save format are detailed in Save file format."
there is also a huge changelog in that faq of what they did change and mod/patch

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Re: QFG 4.5 Discussion Part XVIII
« Reply #98 on: October 09, 2014, 03:46:21 PM »
I downloaded the 64 bit one, ran it and it found my game directory. In my most recent save, my health was so low that after using liberatis that I couldn't eat enough. Health dropped much slower than before but I eventually died. So I am just starting over at full health. I imagine you'll tell me to cast heal or something, but I can't even cast sos to uncover all maps. That is a cheat spell more like a Z   a square box and another   Z
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Re: QFG 4.5 Discussion Part XVIII
« Reply #99 on: October 09, 2014, 04:33:47 PM »
I was asked for an installer for QfG4.5, so here it is:

http://sierrahelp.com/DL/QfG45Setup.exe.php

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Re: QFG 4.5 Discussion Part XVIII
« Reply #100 on: October 09, 2014, 04:45:38 PM »
ya should rar or zip it in case some have active scanners

exe's are like on the no no list,
i had no problem, and hey that worked tooooooo
how did ya do it!?

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Re: Re: QFG 4.5 Discussion Part XVIII
« Reply #101 on: October 09, 2014, 05:44:28 PM »
how did ya do it!?

Just like all of my installers. In case you didn't know, I do have some internet fame for my installers and patches. I am the one who did the installers for QFI and the demos.

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Re: QFG 4.5 Discussion Part XVIII
« Reply #102 on: October 09, 2014, 06:39:09 PM »
well sweeeeeeet

I didnt know that for sure..
and ty!
again id recommend rar or zip format, but my pc has no issues dling an exe as I let it if I so choose and hell I know youre trustworthy

or ill hunt u down and fart on your face
T&P- lol

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Re: QFG 4.5 Discussion Part XVIII
« Reply #103 on: October 10, 2014, 04:58:55 PM »
No offense K, but Liberatis sks! It made health decrease even faster!! I would dearly love to get the original version of Arx Fatalis, and patch it up to 1.7. That way I could use the 1.7 trainer to stay alive. It's been so long since playing through the game, it must have been with a trainer, just don't remember. Don't even remember where the heck I got this 1.21 version  ???

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Re: QFG 4.5 Discussion Part XVIII
« Reply #104 on: October 10, 2014, 06:33:03 PM »
urmm it made no changes to loss of health in that manner in which you speak

did you even read the changlog?

if you are needing a trainer and thats the issue  arx just isnt a game for you

you WILL DIE...
fast.. easily

thats just arx, its again kinda roguelike in a way .. only you can save .. so its not.. but..
yea.. so many deaths its why they give the option to increase save slots on quicksaves

again though if liberatis sucked no one would use it..
but if its the trainer you want, urmm, i feel for ya needing to cheat through a game idk..
seems pointless once you do that, and btw there are cheats u can enable IN liberatis, 
http://wiki.arx-libertatis.org/Changelog

its all in YOUR MIND man,
they didnt edit or tweak anything related to health within combat or such nonsense, this is mainly a compat and patchwork deal
and in fact this mods and patches LOTS of bugs that exist in the original even with 1.21 patch, THATs why it was created, 1. for modern os's 2. to patch the stuff that the devs abandoned..
period

all... in.. your head lol
shrug

sorry its just odd someone suggesting that this sucks, due to something that the mod/patch had no change over.. (its just the game, not the mod)
uninstall it, there is no diff in health ratios or hit to loss ratio
just many many bugs fixed again just read the changelog, if you see anything  regarding the reason you said liberatis sucks (health) let me know

liberatis FTW!

trainers =0  liberatis and non cheating=1
 :)

im going on a limb and guessing your also a guy that used the console cheats for skyrim eh eh?
that was kinda fun tho lol (I did that one too after playing the game with no mods or cheats first)
not that I like the game but, its got its funny mods

black knight mod is hilaaarious
(monty pyhton ref where you battle and cut limbs off and can crawl around biting peoples legs until they stab u in the neck hehe
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