Infamous Quests
Public Forums => Banter and Chit-Chat! => Topic started by: Goatmeal on December 06, 2014, 02:19:23 PM
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Sierra and Odd Gentlemen show off new King's Quest at The Game Awards
http://www.destructoid.com/sierra-and-odd-gentlemen-show-off-new-king-s-quest-at-the-game-awards-284650.phtml (http://www.destructoid.com/sierra-and-odd-gentlemen-show-off-new-king-s-quest-at-the-game-awards-284650.phtml)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=4aACEy-9rSU (https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=4aACEy-9rSU)
Wow. An action platformer with a bullet-time Graham? In the words of the Emperor, "Let the hate flow through you..."
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wt... woah? lets see how this works out, looks neat but, platformer? really?
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As someone in one of the Sierra Facebook groups said, it is an odd choice as "adventure gamers don't want a platformer, and platformer fans don't give a rats ass about kings quest". I agree. And they already tried to add action to KQ in MoE and we know how well that worked out.
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As someone in one of the Sierra Facebook groups said, it is an odd choice as "adventure gamers don't want a platformer, and platformer fans don't give a rats ass about kings quest". I agree. And they already tried to add action to KQ in MoE and we know how well that worked out.
And what about that aborted "Space Quest 3D" platformer game from a while back?
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kq platform= "sorry but your princess is in another castle graham!" lol
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I'm guessing we'll see very little actual gameplay in the coming year before release. This project is about one thing: Activision cashing in on the Sierra name. This is a cash grab looking to dupe the more dimwitted of King's Quest fans into a quick sale based on the name and nostalgia. The game is likely much more geared towards the audience that made games like The Cave and Brothers successful (neither of which are adventure games.) Mark my words: they're going to be as vague as possible about the gameplay so as not to turn away potential customers. They're going to push this as a "new age" adventure game, even though it's clearly not, and idiot fans are going to lap it up like Christmas gravy.
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I only have one thing to say to that! I love groupX man classic, this is the extended with water lvl song! :) (and poo and a toilet! KQ YOU GO THERE!) https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=_trSgNKXl-E#t=100 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=_trSgNKXl-E#t=100)
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The trailer reminded me a lot of Zelda. I love Zelda, and I love KQ. I will likely buy it. I hope to enjoy it for whatever type of game it turns out to be. I am clearly not expecting an adventure game though.
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I'll probably try it. KQV was the first game ever that I played. But you know, I feel that the developers are trying the same thing that's being tried with WOW. The keep coming out with new versions and addons, seeming desperately to try and keep the game alive, not unlike virtual stem cell technology. If I could, I would gladly buy the WOW franchise, then erase that game from history, and bring law suit with anyone having it on any game site.
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kq5 was your first game ever or first kq game? hard to believe its a first game ever! but no way am i buying into this pile o dung sorry, this platform console kid mentality bs has to go out the window and the more that buy it the less likely that is to happen. :( as for WOW, I am sooo with you, wish we could buy it out and burn it all down, some here love WOW but me.. grr waves fist, ruins lives, huge chat room of idiots, only fun with people you trust and know, and thats rare, pvp got fun for a bit but man, that game needs to vanish and all games by blizzard poof goo awayyy :)
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I liked the look of it, and the sound of it.
The Odd Gentleman at the VGAs looked genuinely honoured and humble at the possibility of doing this project and Ken and Roberta seemed to give their blessing so I'm gonna give it my full open mind.
Gotta be better than MOE anyway.
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Well, the trailer looked so and so in my opinion. While I do believe that The Odd Gentleman aims to do the best game they can, we can't forget that the strings are ultimately being pulled by Activision. So I'm afraid that I have to agree with Mr. Lamb on this one. :/
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I'm not quite sure how I feel about this reveal, but the honoring of Ken and Roberta Williams at The Game Awards (where they premiered the trailer) was fairly respectful, I think.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W2NMpK2Rnks#ws (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W2NMpK2Rnks#ws)
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I do agree, however, I believe if they had not been there, the nostalgia of it all for hard core fans would be 100% gone.
This was imo a ploy to lure people into thinking they had anything to do with this game (they dont and didnt)
they didnt work on the game, they didnt write it, nothing.
So imo again its nice they showed up but it seems more like they had to do it or the game might not have had this kind of reception as if the creators are involved somehow
you would be shocked to know many think they are involved with making the game! Sigh
I stand by my comment, I wont buy this game, nor illegally dl it. Its made for the console gen, not us old classic gamers. While it does look pretty, it looks terrible in how its done and what it came to from where it was.
To pitch this as KQ is a sin, imo. Maybe something like grahams adventures in space n time or something
to make it known its a pure platform non adventure game that resembles a hand drawn TRINE game.. ahh
sigh
last time i saw them on a podium it was announcing the merger and ahh that was a bad one too. Trust me I got the same vibe from them here, as I did at that merger. Kinda Uhhh hope this works
for the merger we all know that went poorly and they didnt know it would happen that way, they just wanted to grow as sierra got bigger.
Same with this game KQ console pos. They are putting all the eggs they have left in this, by even showing up.
Idk, hope it works out, and knowing the console kids, since its a platform, it prolly WONT,
as the die hard fans will buy it but then go... wtf is this its not kq!
kids that play platform games all the time will just think its another fable type game only with no rpg
again Ill point out TRINE, only a bit more enhanced. To many out there to choose from.
So yea. hope it works out for them. either way I DONT think they should have showed up for this.
to many think they made the game, or had anything to do with it.. sigh.. this makes me kinda ill.
BTW ken and roberta are looking goooood
ken still needs to shave that thing, I used to tell him that alot, he went beardy for a while too lol
aww I miss them soo much its nice to see them looking so happy.
I would be too after generations of nothing then oo our game is remembered
OF COURSE it is! we will always love you! dont make this poop pleeeeeeease make a real kq
no ooooo
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A few things....
I love adventure games. They will always hold a special place for me as they were the games I grew up with. But, at the same time I was playing KQ, SQ, QFG, etc, I also had a NES and a SEGA Genesis. I played console games and loved them too. I am a gamer. I love games. The notion that because a game is made for a console and the "console generation" means that the game isn't worth playing seems extremely short sided. Just because the game isn't being made for adventure game purists, does not mean it can't or wont be good. It doesn't mean it will be good either. There are many bad adventure games. There are many bad console games. I personally like good games, regardless of genre. If they make a good game in the KQ universe that tells the KQ story, then great. I would rather have that than a Tell-Tale style interactive movie masked with an "adventure game" label. If KQ gets revived as something different than what it was, it doesn't have to be a bad thing. If people play it and love it and it causes them to go back and see the inspiration by playing the old games that would be amazing too. I hate that people have already judged the game before it has even been played. To me, that is the worst thing I am seeing now that the trailer has been released.
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It's the Phantom Menace effect.
People's anticipation and expectations have been built up so high for so long that it won't matter whether the game is a "true KQ" adventure game or a good video game or a fun/diversionary game or simply a bad game; it just won't be what they had in their mind the game SHOULD have been...
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I went on several no-holds-barred rants about it last night in various forums. I feel a little like a college girl who wakes up in an unfamiliar bedroom after a night of wild partying.
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For me, I have no expectations. I really will play it for what it is. I just hope it is a good game that takes more than 2 hours to play. I am not engaging in any of the conversations really because there is no point to it whatsoever. I feel bad for The Odd Gentlemen. They are in a no win situation.
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I feel bad for The Odd Gentlemen. They are in a no win situation.
To be completely fair, they could have avoided some of this blowback if they had shown anything that resembles traditional adventure game mechanics in their trailer. A conversation, a clear instance of puzzle solving, etc. Someone on FB said it very well: If this is an adventure game trailer, then it's the worst adventure game trailer I've ever seen. haha
I was looking at other trailers on youtube of some of the classic vs. contemporary adventure games. A lot of them do focus on the action bits and cutscenes. The problem here, I think, is the sections that are obviously gameplay sections don't look anything like adventure gameplay. Narrow, straight-line paths with gaps that you jump over. I mean, if they wanted it to look like an adventure game, they've shown about the furthest thing from it.
The only way it could have been worse is if they had a first-person shot looking down the point of the arrow as Graham aimed the bow. ;)
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Have they actually promoted it ad an adventure game? I honestly have not followed it very much at all.
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I agree to a point chuklas
but really?
I mean, this isnt an adventure, dont call it KQ and think roberta had ANYTHING to do with it is what im saying.
most think they do.
And not to toss names (so I wont) but someone at pheonix online studios had a team, pretty large one making kq Silver lining, and no not the one thats available for dl, it was a WHOLE different team which the person I wont mention, kinda fired everyone and let the ip go to activision.
Then the writer for that game, made "it takes two to tangle" in web book format
THEN guess who had the IP allowed to be used to make the game and even made a playable demo?
TELLTALE GAMES yep kim lyons helped and pitched it, roberta loved kims work, and telltale indeed already storyboarded 2 episodes and made a video and mini play demo which activision DID NOT like at all, so they asked TTG to give them the rights to make this petty platform game
Stole back the IP usage even though roberta liked the TTG version most of all vs the mask of eternity sequel platform game. Bottom line, activision has cut the legs off of 5 companies that I know of and 2 which I worked with, its just as bad as what george did when he said no to sam n max 2 or anything other than star wars.. then turned around to sell it to disney later. Really? dont judge a game before it comes out? I think in some cases one can do that.
Take ubisoft games, I can tell you 99% of it is crap, i dont need it to come out first.
as for the telltale woes
blam right from wiki hope you take this to heart as the game was GREEN LIT and GO TEAM GO, they started making the game! then BLAM no sorry urmm thats not going to sell as we want it to buh bye TTG and kim lyons
In addition, Silicon Knights worked on a prototype for a King's Quest game at some point before Telltale Games acquired the rights. This information was released to the public through documents on the Silicon Knights suit against Epic Games.[11]
On February 17, 2011, Telltale Games announced that they reached an agreement with Activision to create new episodic games based on Sierra franchises.[12] The first Sierra intellectual property they intended to work on was King’s Quest.[13] The game was to follow the format of previous Telltale Games series such as Tales of Monkey Island, as a continuation of the series with all new episodic games and multiple series.[14][15] It was intended to preserve the back story of King's Quest, and fit into the established canon. It was intended to include the challenge and possibilities of death of the original games, but the gameplay was going to be adapted to relieve some of the frustration present in the original games.[15] Telltale approached Roberta Williams, the originator of the series, and one of the designers on all of the original games, to see if she was interested in working on the new one. While she declined by saying she had retired from games, she did offer the development team advice, which was "very valuable," according to developer Dave Grossman.[16][17] In May 2012, Dan Connors confirmed that Dave Grossman was in charge of the King's Quest project, and Telltale was working on how to proceed.[18] Then, on April 3, 2013, it was announced that Telltale's King's Quest game was cancelled. Activision had recovered the rights to King's Quest, and had their own plans for the franchise.[19][/u]
In August 2014, Activision announced that they had revived the Sierra brand, and had passed development responsibilities for a King's Quest: Mask of Eternity sequel over to The Odd Gentlemen.[20]"
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That definitely HAVE billed it as an adventure game, both in official announcements and in informal Tweets & FB posts.
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That definitely HAVE billed it as an adventure game, both in official announcements and in informal Tweets & FB posts.
Fair enough. Like I said, I have not followed that much.
As for the other stuff as in other companies and their intentions, I really don't care about any of it. I don't care if the game has Roberta's hand in it. None of that really matters at all. If the game is good, great. If not, then I can be unhappy. I will wait to pass judgement.
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I have been letting my hate flow through me with this one. It sustains me.
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I think honoring Ken and Roberta Williams, and Sierra-On Line, is a nice and right thing to do, but this was definitely a well timed PR move. Not to take anything away from the Williams, but no one out there gives a crap unless it helps them sell now.
Bt
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www.youtube.com/watch?v=cDGlN6mluGA (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cDGlN6mluGA)
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You want a picture of what's wrong with adventure games in 2014? Follow these arguments over this new King's Quest.
There's two extremes on this that really get under my skin. The first is what Chucklas has said, people are judging this and basically shitting on it without knowing much about it other than a 90 second teaser. The other extreme is what Lambo said, people thinking the sun is going to shine out of it because it's a King's Quest game and will be on the Sierra label. I don't disagree with aspects of both arguments, but damn it, both extremes are just poisonous to anyone that wants to do anything with these IP's. I wouldn't do another remake or play with one of their IP's for that reason, you have to wade through miles and miles of just absolute bullshit from supposed fans. That is the problem with the whole Sierra community, they're so closed off to reality when it comes to this stuff. The reality is a new King's Quest game is never going to be like KQ6. Adventure games are a niche market now, if you're trying to sell a game at a company like Activision you want to sell millions, a new adventure game is going to sell at best in five figures, not seven.
Then throw in places like Adventure Gamers which are just toxic to anything that doesn't fit within their little box of what an adventure game should be. And that box looks like a LucasArts game made by TellTale. Now I know there are different views about those games, I err on the side of TT being a bit simplistic for my tastes and lacking in any real puzzles which I think are important in an adventure, but they're not evil either. Some of the stories have been excellent, the Sam and Max games, Monkey Island are two examples I loved. Back to the Future was a great story it just sucked with gameplay elements (ie. it had none). But some people do love Sierra style games, inventory puzzles, that sort of thing. And that's fine too. But say any of that on AG forums and you will be dumped on from a great height and for many many pages of posts. There is no allowance for different tastes or styles, or the room for a reasonable discussion about what people like.
You know how adventure games "come back?" New people fucking buy them. And new people are going to look at these communities of supposed fans and just see they toxic nature of them, walk away and buy the next CoD.
I have no problem shitting on a game if it sucks. I have no problem praising a game if it's great, but this jumping straight to an extreme is just total bollocks and does nothing but hurt what they are profess to love.
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The only way it could have been worse is if they had a first-person shot looking down the point of the arrow as Graham aimed the bow. ;)
Ahem...
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Heh...I know; we did the same thing in QFI.
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@Klytos (http://www.infamous-quests.com/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=8)
I like to believe that those people are just very nostalgic. For example, QFI had a refreshing twist to it but it still plays like those good old games, so it's easier for people at those forums to relate to QFI than what this new KQ seems to become according to this trailer.
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Shit folks, I am old time gamer. If they make a cool and decent adventure game then i am happy. However i am pretty sure they (the developer), will screw it up as was done with Moe. Old fucks like myself want an adventure game, not a first person 3d mess Period! Just my 2 cents.... :) Chadly
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Again I wouldnt mind if this was a game INSPIRED by KQ but not with the title.
Then one could phase out that this is just a platformed bloated sold out pos made for console consumers mainly not even the original pc users that made the company popular !
grrr
you do know its a pc port not even coded FOR pc gfx etc, and consoles no matter how new are only about mid range pc lvl even the beefy ps4 (its about = to a mid level pc)
anyway, to many games are coming this xmas etc even on xbox making both look good I just wont buy into that as it costs annual fees to even play and they never include backwards compatibility only streaming and when you own so many games, buying them again is just insane.
KQ new = ported to pc, it will be wonky unless you have a console, I BET it wont feel nor work nor look as good, just as all the other ports shown off don't look good on pc (watchdogs Ill mention AGAIN) looked great in demo and at e3 but the consoles couldn't keep up with the gfx so they watered it down and somehow forgot, to beef it back up for pc consumers. No wait they didn't forget ! there was a huge article on the WHY they didn't re code it for pc for better gfx, it was due to the riots that would occur due to console consumers going "why does this look and play so much better on pc!" im getting a pc!
not a console!
anyway tons of exclusive titles are coming for poo xbox that even makes me want one, ps4 has been out selling and out classing xbox but, both are great minus the kinetic v2 and xboxs lame launch of selling it as a home theater more than a gaming console. (that was prolly their biggest mistake)
but I digress, point is SOO many other and better games are coming, (even the guy handing the award out is making uncharted (god I wish they would make those for pc)
and now tomb raider is xbox elusive, grr. Next console to make a real mechwarrior game IM GETTING
dont care what it is!
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Shit folks, I am old time gamer. If they make a cool and decent adventure game then i am happy. However i am pretty sure they (the developer), will screw it up as was done with Moe. Old fucks like myself want an adventure game, not a first person 3d mess Period! Just my 2 cents.... :) Chadly
sorry I know ttg has been kinda off the mark of late
but id rather they have done KQ as they were going to. It really hurt them to get their legs cut from under them
they had really made almost 2 episodes in storyboards and arts etc, and writing. Kim worked hard.. so did david.. sad really but oh well such is the way of the console kids.
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RPG Codex's thread on the new KQ is a hilarious read.
http://www.rpgcodex.net/forums/index.php?threads/new-kings-quest-game-by-the-odd-gentlemen-aka-sierra-reloaded-massive-decline-everything-is-shit.95074/page-6 (http://www.rpgcodex.net/forums/index.php?threads/new-kings-quest-game-by-the-odd-gentlemen-aka-sierra-reloaded-massive-decline-everything-is-shit.95074/page-6)
Also, they explicitly made a point of moving it out of their Adventure Gaming subforum and into their General Gaming forum after the reveal trailer dropped. hahaha
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ty for that link and again
No sir, I dont like it, I dont like it at all.
Sigh. still I will say ken and roberta do look good for.. how, ahem young they are :)
I miss my old talks with them sigh aww the good ole days
great peoples truly, sad to see them go this route just to pitch to the new crowd. I believe in the end it will be another forgotten KQ game (kq wiki removed most of the fan based games, even kq silver lining was removed and given a separate page. Shrug, but I know way to much about this topic, so it hurts even more
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Again I wouldnt mind if this was a game INSPIRED by KQ but not with the title.
That could be any adventure game that came after KQ.
This new game is using the characters, story and world of the original game. It is KQ, not some inspired spin off. This isn't taking a supporting character and giving them their own game. It is Graham, it is Daventry, it is KQ.
When books are made into movies, they keep the title. Sometimes they do a fantastic job (Lord of the Rings), and sometimes they don't (The Hobbit - up for debate, but I think it is terrible). In making movies based on books or comics, changes get made to the characters, the story, etc. But at the end of the day, the book and the movie are two different ways of telling the same story. Typically, people like whichever they read/see first more than the other one.I believe it is possible for both to be excellent. It doesn't have to be one or the other. The same MIGHT be true for KQ. It is possible that the new game, although different in mechanics can in fact tell the same story in a new way that works. And, if we want the stories to live on, as Shawn said, a newer audience must be created. The game has to work for them, not just adventure game purists. As I mentioned earlier, if a new game draws them in and sparks an interest in the story and the original games, it can't be bad for the games. We may never have another classic point and click KQ adventure, and that is sad, but that doesn't make the new KQ game terrible or wrong or anything else. I will wait and see.
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You know, I just don't know. The trailer has some nice graphics, but it's iffy on gameplay. So we'll see.
All I know is that if, say, we were given a proper budget and tools - I know we could create an adventure game with appeal and a graphical style that would be considered modern. Many of us ARE gamers who play games of today, who could make an adventure game that is interactive, and action-packed, without being full of QTEs
I could see a Quest For Infamy in the future like that, sure. If this new game is full of platforming action, QTEs and limited non-story related puzzles... I'll be disappointed. If it can manage a blend of action, adventure, excitements and complex, thought based and story based puzzles, I'll be delighted.
And, if it sucks, we just work harder to continue making awesome games ourselves in the future.
Bt
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That may be my number one thing that I am hoping for. I hope that the story is told through game play and not just cut scenes.
As for QTEs, I don't think I have ever liked them at all. If it ends up being full of them, I will also be disappointed. Like I said, I just want a good game at this point. Other than that, I have no expectations.
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@chucklas (http://www.infamous-quests.com/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=7) sorry I dont think I was getting my point across to well in posts, so I wont try anymore. Not to be rude just you seem to feel really strongly about just not prejudging and that doesnt work in my realm or really the real world. But if thats how you think thats cool to me, but you kinda are preaching.
I see it one way, lambo seems to agree, so do those forums he linked.
you see it your way and prolly the way lots see it too
then there is the buy anything band which I dont think any of us are here :)
but in terms of what i meant about KQ not being KQ, it IS KQ, my comment was half tongue in cheek in saying that THATS not KQ, its a platformer! not.. thats not KQ at all.
Again making it the adventures of so and so, would be to me far more appropriate given the drastic change but I didnt make that call, so we will see.
But again, I didnt mean its not KQ literally, more like ITS NOT KQ! ahhh as in sad its not a a point n click, and again I know way to much back history, and such I wont mention again. Stuff im sure you arent aware of, even if you were I dont think it would change your paradigm and it shouldnt!
but I really just mean.. awww noooo thats not KQ .. someone hang me pls ive seen the death of one of my fav game series now more than once
that kinda thing..
The ken/roberta having nothing to do with it was not mixed in with the "this is not a kq" mentality thats just me muddling posts as I always do sorry aboot that.
again I could see if this was like point n click or even like grim fandago or telltale with some platform action but again read some of those posts in lambos thread that he linked, its not just myself and he that feel this way.
this cant be kq!!
not this isnt (sorry for my bad postings!)
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That may be my number one thing that I am hoping for. I hope that the story is told through game play and not just cut scenes.
As for QTEs, I don't think I have ever liked them at all. If it ends up being full of them, I will also be disappointed. Like I said, I just want a good game at this point. Other than that, I have no expectations.
problem is if you look at the history of this publishers games, all story is told in cutscenes with only minor jokes and references to people or places in the game itself and the rest is going to be just pure duck dodge and a bit of humor, but no I think the story will MOSTLY be told in cutscenes from all the videos ive seen.
I dislike games that do that also and it breaks the KQ code!
but who knows! it might surprise even me :)
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Then again, the first KQ (which is my favorite from an overall game perspective) had very little story. The entire story was, "I am the king. I am dying. Find the 3 lost treasures and you will be king." That was it. Then it was an open world game to do just that. What I loved about the game is that it was not linear, and there were multiple solutions to all puzzles. You could do things in a more noble way if you chose (which would result in a higher score). The points system, multiple solutions, open world and non-linear nature is what made it great. It was not point and click, etc. Could they make a game that includes the things that made the first game great? You can make a console style game non-linear. You can make a console game have multiple solutions to puzzles. You can make a console game have different consequences based on your choices. So, yes, it is possible.
As for the story through cut scenes, the more I think about this, the more I realize that in the later KQ games, the story was done through cut scenes and dialog. And to play devil's advocate, dialog can be interpreted as mini cut scenes as you are not actually playing while the characters are talking. In KQ5 and KQ6 you didn't even get to decide what you would say either, so that makes them seem much more like cut scenes.
As for the back story of the fan remakes or the Tell Tale game, I do know quite a bit of what went on there, but that is their own problem. Fan remakes were never sanctioned. Tell Tale's model isn't suited for KQ either. I am much more optimistic with the current situation (even after seeing the trailer) than I ever was with Tell Tale. I think if Activision were the ones actually making the game, it would be doomed. Given it is an independent company, it still has some hope.
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I am much more optimistic with the current situation (even after seeing the trailer) than I ever was with Tell Tale.
I agree here, definitely.
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The three fan remakes by AGDI were sanctioned as was TSL. A licence is a licence, regardless of whether it's a fan version or not.
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The three fan remakes by AGDI were sanctioned as was TSL. A licence is a licence, regardless of whether it's a fan version or not.
Was the license granted to AGDI before KQ3? I thought they were only granted permission on that one. As for TSL, it was granted after the fact. But we are splitting hairs on that. It doesn't really matter. I would rather play a good fan game than a bad "official" one. But being different does not automatically mean it will be good or bad. That's all I am really saying here.
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AGDI had permission from the first one, they weren't allowed to make more than what they'd already started on when Activision took over, but their existing licence covered KQ1-3, SQ2 and QFG2. They didn't end up doing SQ2 (although they started it.)
I'm not disagreeing with you, I also think being different doesn't automatically mean it's going to be bad.
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I have to say, regardless of what the game turns out to be, I LOVE that it has been this controversial. I think it's important to make a stink about this kind of stuff, for the sake of the "genre." haha
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I have to say, regardless of what the game turns out to be, I LOVE that it has been this controversial. I think it's important to make a stink about this kind of stuff, for the sake of the "genre." haha
I don't know how I feel about it. It seems to be mostly bickering between old school adventure fans and tell tale adventure fans, and then some other adventure game fans that have not really taken a side. The issue is that the "controversy" is between the adventure game community. This is the same community that typically wont pay more than $10 for a GOOD game, and even then, they wait for a sale. This is the community that has proven time and time again that there is no reason for large companies to pursue games in the genre. That is why we only get Tell Tale style games. And even then, those game release at a price of $30 on XBOX One and PS4 and quickly fall to $10-$15. The adventure game community doesn't actually support adventure games when it comes to what matters most to the companies making them; their wallets. At the end of the day, the only way we will ever get new games using the old IPs is to make them for a new audience which means they CANNOT be traditional adventures. It is a sad reality, but the adventure game community has helped cerate the problem.
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kq wiki removed most of the fan based games, even kq silver lining was removed and given a separate page.
Not actually removed, no pages have been removed. There is a link to the fan game and fan fiction main page from the main page itself.
Actually most articles cross-link into the fan pages at the bottom of the page, where the topics are related somehow.
However, I do need to get around to sprucing up the fan page, and giving it fancy thumbnail links, with pictures of the game boxart, or at least title screens.
Any help with the page would be appreciated of course.
http://kingsquest.wikia.com/wiki/Fan_Main_Page (http://kingsquest.wikia.com/wiki/Fan_Main_Page)
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Some additional stuff released since the trailer announcement;
The barebones website;
http://www.sierra.com/kingsquest (http://www.sierra.com/kingsquest)
Developed by The Odd Gentlemen, the new King’s Quest™ reimagines all the charm, humor, puzzles, exploration and sense of wonder that made the franchise so magical when it first arrived thirty years ago. Old and grey, King Graham – the hero made legend in the original King’s Quest games – shares the extraordinary stories of his youth with his curious granddaughter, Gwendolyn, taking players back to the feats that shaped a kingdom.
And so begins an episodic saga that honors the core characters and familiar storylines of King Graham’s early adventures, setting up new chapters tied to – but independent of – the series that helped define Sierra and the adventure genre. Through these tales, a whole new generation can finally experience one of gaming’s most beloved journeys.
Other news:
http://blog.theoddgentlemen.com/post/104464765209/kings-quest-trailer-debut-at-the-game-awards-we (http://blog.theoddgentlemen.com/post/104464765209/kings-quest-trailer-debut-at-the-game-awards-we)
This King’s Quest trailer is just the first of hopefully many sneak peeks at our game. Look forward to media showing off puzzles, story, exploration, and more wonder.
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Chuck, you really nailed it. The adventure game community did help create the quandary it's in now, in regards to larger publishers wanting to touch the genre.
Bt
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No one wants to put the kind of budget the games would require, because they would never make the money back.
There is enough criticism for quite a few of the adventure games that came out this year from from Kickstarter campaigns for not living up to the quality of the originals.
Larry Reloaded is hit and miss.
GK 20th Anniversary is a fun game, but its not as good as the original. It didn't get the same budget even. It shows in lack of animation and polish, and the atmosphere isn't quite right.
Broken Sword 5 was pretty good, but it has a lot of its old time fans against it for being to simplified and 'linear'.
Started on Dreamfall chapters, the animation and presentation looks great. But its really too early to tell what the finished game will be like. People might find it to be too "Telltale-esque" in puzzle design and interface?
I haven't played the latest Tex Murphy, so I can't make a comment. I think its mostly liked by its fans?
Broken Age? I see a lot of people complaining about it.
Some people believe that Hero-U won't live up to the QFG games, and it arguably leaning towards a different genre or style in some ways.
Space Venture, well we don't know much about it at all yet.
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As for Shadowgate reimagining... I thought it was great, very close to getting the original game's feel, with essentially a new storyline (inspired by the original).
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I liked Shadowgate a lot, and I hear they're going to do more Icom games, which I am happy about!
Bt
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Yep they are doing a sequel next year, or so. It is apparently going to be a mix of the plot from Beyond Shadowgate, and Shadowgate 64. It will be close to the Beyond Shadowgate they originally wanted to make.
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I have to say, regardless of what the game turns out to be, I LOVE that it has been this controversial. I think it's important to make a stink about this kind of stuff, for the sake of the "genre." haha
I don't know how I feel about it. It seems to be mostly bickering between old school adventure fans and tell tale adventure fans, and then some other adventure game fans that have not really taken a side. The issue is that the "controversy" is between the adventure game community. This is the same community that typically wont pay more than $10 for a GOOD game, and even then, they wait for a sale. This is the community that has proven time and time again that there is no reason for large companies to pursue games in the genre. That is why we only get Tell Tale style games. And even then, those game release at a price of $30 on XBOX One and PS4 and quickly fall to $10-$15. The adventure game community doesn't actually support adventure games when it comes to what matters most to the companies making them; their wallets. At the end of the day, the only way we will ever get new games using the old IPs is to make them for a new audience which means they CANNOT be traditional adventures. It is a sad reality, but the adventure game community has helped cerate the problem.
Quoted for truth. Don't forget they'll pay hundreds for a boxed copy of a game they can buy on GoG for $5.
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Quoted for truth. Don't forget they'll pay hundreds for a boxed copy of a game they can buy on GoG for $5.
Oh God. Don't get me started on the collectors.
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Anyone who actually WANTS to pay for a copy of EcoQuest is a moron. :)
Have at it.
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you mean the hard copy?
the german hard copy?
the russian odd hard copy?
which one hehe
I know a mate who has them all :P but me nah id not pay for that
im more a freddi fish guy, so is... my daughter :(
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you mean the hard copy?
the german hard copy?
the russian odd hard copy?
which one hehe
I know a mate who has them all :P but me nah id not pay for that
im more a freddi fish guy, so is... my daughter :(
Btw im a huge collector, and thats one reason I backed this game :) so dont dog the collectors! I just love swag I cant help it! Ill end up like the creatures in labyrinth with the packs of junk piled half mile high on their backs
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I sold orgave away my boxed collection of Sierra games. or tossed the boxes in the trash in past, after upgrading to the CD collections. Really I didn't want to be held down by so many boxes, as I've always wanted to travel in my life...
Digital copies make me happy!, and PDF scans of manuals and the like!
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I'm not talking about people who enjoy owning physical copies and swag, I'm talking about the obsessive types who hunt down like 10 boxed copies of each release of each game and then post absurd photos of their Sierra walls (it's always a whole wall of the house that they have devoted to it for some reason) on FB.
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yea lol thats my mate kosh for ya
he is the one from germany who owns 7 vers of gab knight 2 etc at least every game made by sierra in every language and,. signed.. he sent a briefcase to al lowe who signed everything something like 39 boxes total
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I only want one decent boxed copy of each. While I do want all of the variants for adding support for as many different release versions to my installers, but a copy of the media alone is good enough for that. In some cases just an unaltered digital copy will do.
Much of my desire for physical copies has more to do with a desire for preservation than the typical "collectables" lust of many so called collectors that might as well be into collecting plates or something equally silly. It drives up the price for the preservationist and the true fans that just want the games. At least GOG helps with the latter.
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To be fair to Kosh, he mostly goes after stuff I am not interested, like all of the Japanese releases.
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Well, Kosh atleast tries to get different versions of the same game. But then I've seen people who get like 10-20 copies of the same game and all are identical. :/
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Do any of you collectors have a copy of the manual for Take a Break Pinball on hand? There doesn't seem to be an proper scans online. I don't have access to my copy which is boxed up back in the states...