Infamy points

[Bad2DaBone]

This kinda bugged me, but...

Why does giving Rayford a cigar give you Infamy Points?



Also, what do Infamy points mean exactly?


Does it mean how much of a bastard you are?  How feared you are?  How respected/terrifying you are?

How evil you are?


I finished the game with 175 as a "Goody-two Shoes" thief, but if I had avoided the Kraken, robbing all the houses, the cigar and slapping the moonshiner around I may have gotten.... 130?


What does the top score say and what does the lowest score say at the end?

[Lambonius]

I believe the top score is somewhere in the 300s, and I have no idea what the label is at the end.  Blackthorne would know.  I'll let him chime in on this one.

[Bad2DaBone]

Ah okay.  I figured I'd be a "nice guy" for my first playthrough (as nice as a serial thief can be) and be a complete basturd my second time through.

I'm going to be a Brigand next and murder everyone and everything in my path! 

[chucklas]

The infamy points do play a role in the game.  Certain NPCs will not tell you certain things unless you have a high enough infamy.  Basically the more you do that makes people not want to be your enemy earns you infamy. 

[Bad2DaBone]

Interesting.  Well, my Infamy score was pretty low (maybe I'll do a lowest possible playthrough at some point now that I know what to avoid) so I may not have triggered very many of those.

My Brigand'll probably be maxed out for Infamy though, heh heh.

So I guess it's a good thing!  You get Infamy even for nice actions (like sparing Gort, killing the Beast) so it seems to mean just much of a well-known Badass you are that people don't want to cross.

One minor complaint- I don't think the game had a screen explaining this stat very well. (or if it did, I missed it)

[Blackthorne]

Infamy isn't just about being bad - it's about how clever and quick witted you are too.  You gave the Sheriff, a bastard himself - and one who makes it clear he doesn't really care for you - a cigar.  That's bad ass.  Walking up to your nemesis and handing him a cigar?  That takes stones, brother.


Bt

[Bad2DaBone]

Really?  I was just trying to get on his good side and avoid attracting his attention too negatively.  Plus Roehm did promise him a cigar.

I'm so badass I don't even realize I'm being badass when I'm polite. 


One last thing.... can I enter into the forest across the tree bridge in the south forest at any point in the game?  Or do I need to be playing as a Wizard or Brigand?

[Lambonius]

Only as a

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Brigand.  The passage goes right to their hideout.

[Blackthorne]

You can feed the bear a ham or salami to sneak past him and enter the south woods through the living tree bridge.  Walk off the screen to the right on the tree bridge screen.


Bt

[miriya]

I was attempting to do a minimal infamy run as a sorcerer, but there was no way

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to get past the red bush without talking to Visa and the moonshiner's assistant first, which gives you a minimum of 10 points.  I know this puzzle is being reworked for the next update, but will that mean that giving the snake oil to O'Burr will allow the cloud spell (or fire) to work on the bush directly?

Why is it you don't get any infamy points for

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setting the owl's tree or the treants on fire?

Is it because they don't contribute to interpersonal skills?

Oh, and it's awesome that you don't get any maze hints if your infamy is too low!  I haven't found anywhere else that infamy has really contributed, but on this minimal playthrough I suspect I haven't been talking to people enough in general.

[Dutchman]

*I* got points for setting stuff on fire.
(Fire good)

[miriya]

*I* got points for setting stuff on fire.
(Fire good)

What class were you playing as?  I didn't get any as a sorcerer, but I did get points for the

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red bush

as a rogue.

[Dutchman]

I set fire to something else than that red bush, as a Sorcerer.

[miriya]

I set fire to something else than that red bush, as a Sorcerer.

I can't figure it out.  Without getting points, I've managed to set fire to

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the owl tree, the treants, and the cube

Please don't give it away, but could you give me a hint as to where I should look for this elusive point-generating ignition source?

[Bad2DaBone]

Using the chain on the tree near the waterfall gives you a free Infamy point for effort.

[miriya]

Using the chain on the tree near the waterfall gives you a free Infamy point for effort.

Ooh, go add that one to the wiki!

[Dutchman]

I set fire to something else than that red bush, as a Sorcerer.

I can't figure it out.  Without getting points, I've managed to set fire to

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the owl tree, the treants, and the cube

Please don't give it away, but could you give me a hint as to where I should look for this elusive point-generating ignition source?

It was the first things of the things you suggested, oddly enough. I set it on fire, and then people tried putting it out and I ran away and got points.

[miriya]

It was the first things of the things you suggested, oddly enough. I set it on fire, and then people tried putting it out and I ran away and got points.

Hmm, that's strange.  I think I'll submit that as a bug, then.

[Kaldire]

drinking from the fountain in the main tyr square  = 1 infamy
tossing a bly into the same fountain = 1 infamy

just fyi

still no clue what will is other than william ahhh
going bonkers here
add that to your wiki list
and yep its confirmed ( putting a spike in the tree then using the chain nets =1 infamy  for trying)

[Bad2DaBone]

Actually doing that gives about 20 infamy points total.

Also I think there's some kind of bug there- it gives you points if you repeatedly use the hand icon on the water, but I think it's only meant to if you snatch back the Blythos you threw in there.

[miriya]

It's 15 points for stealing from the fountain and 5 points for tossing a bly into the fountain.  When I use the hand icon again, it tells me I already stole from the fountain and there's nothing left.  I'm playing as a rogue.  If you're getting more points, that probably should be listed as a bug.

[Kaldire]

oh my bad

well list it up