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The Games => Quest for Infamy => Topic started by: garr on August 18, 2014, 10:56:30 AM

Title: Something just doesn't add up
Post by: garr on August 18, 2014, 10:56:30 AM
In a previous post, Klytos made this statement concerning direct info on the BT fight:

In this age of instant internet information, once one person has found it, everyone has found it.

In another post I asked if materials, in the update, would reveal how to find BT. The answer was
Yes! This conflicts with Klytos's statement, and surely someone will start a viral post elsewhere
with the solution about the fight. So why hold out now? Is it merely an effort to boost sales where
more gamers will pay for the update just for the secret information?
Title: Re: Something just doesn't add up
Post by: Blackthorne on August 18, 2014, 02:00:46 PM
Hahah, no no - the mystery you're searching for is just a bit of fun hidden in the game, nothing more.  I think someone misunderstood - in the update, the answer won't be revealed - but I'll be including some of the hints I have given so far.

It's really just a bit of fun, and I don't know IF anyone has found it yet.  Chucklas did, but that's because he's a programmer on the team.  He found what I hid.

No ploys here, just a good old fashioned easter egg hunt.


Bt
Title: Re: Something just doesn't add up
Post by: chucklas on August 18, 2014, 02:08:38 PM
Yep.  I knew a couple things about it, but like Steve said, I had some help with the source code.


Now, Lambonius, a member of the team, who was not told how to do it, asked me in an email if he was close.  He laid out what he had learned from the clues.  He is EXTREMELY close to cracking it.  He basically knows all the steps, and how to accomplish them.  The clues are there, some of the steps you have done.  We just have not told you when you were right or wrong about your attempts.
Title: Re: Something just doesn't add up
Post by: garr on August 18, 2014, 02:39:34 PM
OHKAY! It's like having Alzheimer's and not being too concerned, because hey, you can hide your own Easter eggs.
Title: Re: Something just doesn't add up
Post by: Lambonius on August 18, 2014, 03:11:09 PM
Quote from: chucklas on August 18, 2014, 02:08:38 PM
Now, Lambonius, a member of the team, who was not told how to do it, asked me in an email if he was close.  He laid out what he had learned from the clues.  He is EXTREMELY close to cracking it.  He basically knows all the steps, and how to accomplish them.  The clues are there, some of the steps you have done.  We just have not told you when you were right or wrong about your attempts.

Hey, don't drag me into this!  ;)
Title: Re: Re: Something just doesn't add up
Post by: chucklas on August 18, 2014, 03:13:01 PM
Quote from: Lambonius on August 18, 2014, 03:11:09 PM
Quote from: chucklas on August 18, 2014, 02:08:38 PM
Now, Lambonius, a member of the team, who was not told how to do it, asked me in an email if he was close.  He laid out what he had learned from the clues.  He is EXTREMELY close to cracking it.  He basically knows all the steps, and how to accomplish them.  The clues are there, some of the steps you have done.  We just have not told you when you were right or wrong about your attempts.

Hey, don't drag me into this!  ;)


Are you kidding?  You know you love the attention.  Speaking of, happy belated birthday bro.
Title: Re: Something just doesn't add up
Post by: Kaldire on August 18, 2014, 05:16:33 PM
I think im close toooo

I hopes I am anyway haha

garr we will get this !
just be patient and urmm.. yeaaa

 8)
Title: Re: Something just doesn't add up
Post by: garr on August 18, 2014, 08:22:28 PM
I am not sure when it occurred, but outside Volksville gates, a group of those self flagellating guys walk by west to east. Could this be important?
Title: Re: Something just doesn't add up
Post by: Blackthorne on August 18, 2014, 08:38:30 PM
That's unrelated; just a bit of game business that not many people see.  It doesn't always happen, but it's just a way to give more life to the world of QFI.


Bt
Title: Re: Something just doesn't add up
Post by: garr on August 18, 2014, 11:20:11 PM
Never paid attention before, but killing Gorth the town bully gets a deep sinister laugh from... maybe BT?
Title: Re: Something just doesn't add up
Post by: Blackthorne on August 19, 2014, 06:51:42 AM
Heh, yes, that is me laughing and saying "Infamy".


Bt
Title: Re: Something just doesn't add up
Post by: Kaldire on August 19, 2014, 11:02:15 AM
is that what he says!?
lol
never knew that cheers

Title: Re: Something just doesn't add up
Post by: garr on August 19, 2014, 08:11:14 PM
I broke into a house to the left of the bank and found a number 249 in a book. Thought that could be input at the ATM in the bank. Didn't work. Anyone know what the number is for? OR, since BT likes numbers, what if all the numbers you've seen (library books, info from the guy on the left side in the library, etc.) really mean something!
Title: Re: Something just doesn't add up
Post by: chucklas on August 19, 2014, 09:10:30 PM
Spoiler (hover to show)
Title: Re: Something just doesn't add up
Post by: garr on August 19, 2014, 09:23:49 PM
OH RATZ!

All the other numbers, I recently thought, could correspond to numbers on a telephone, and the resulting letters could make up an anagram. hmm

Anyhow, tnx
Title: Re: Something just doesn't add up
Post by: Kaldire on August 20, 2014, 04:44:54 PM
aww commonnn garr thats a classic safe crackin shin dig!

my issue is that there seems to be nothing to do with the loot if you arent a thief yet sorc can enter with unlock.. shrug

Title: Re: Something just doesn't add up
Post by: chucklas on August 20, 2014, 04:56:41 PM
I am pretty sure someone will take the loot from you.  :)
Title: Re: Something just doesn't add up
Post by: Kaldire on August 20, 2014, 05:01:01 PM
yea I mean i know, but whats the point :P
we got loads of bly anyway lol

its like when I asked Bt what the symbol in the well did ( i meant was)
at first it looked like the sierra logo, not like the logo in the... ya know notes, triangle with the eyes?
is that what its supposed to be

didnt want to seem like i hadnt already completed the darn game 4 times at that time, now going on my 5th for bt hunt etc, again  with 60+ hours played how the helllll could i not have beaten the game a few ways now lol

anyway I felt dumb for wording that wrong, I did mean what was the symbol in the well in terms of what was it not how to open the .. ok to many spoilers

annyway its the eye triangle right? not the sierra logo?

btw might be a fun idea to make the necklace HUM when you get near the wench at the inn, hummm
oh hush you, LET ME RING THE BELLLL  (its a billy crystal bit)

much like this bit belowww
https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=VPn7-dK7cs0#t=218 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=VPn7-dK7cs0#t=218)

Make a left!   let me riinng the belll  ( I had gps in my yoyo before gps was invented!)

hhaha
urmm ahem.. digression
Title: Re: Something just doesn't add up
Post by: garr on August 20, 2014, 06:13:31 PM
What about when, during one of Japsworth's diatribes, he kept alluding to beating bulls?
Title: Re: Something just doesn't add up
Post by: Blackthorne on August 20, 2014, 07:07:52 PM
The Symbol on the Wall is the Symbol of the Centai - their mark that they had been there.  If you look, the same symbol is on the letter you find on the Centai Body in the Burial Cairn.

Japsworth talking on incessantly about weird topics, like the bulls, just shows he's too drunk to talk about anything meaningful.  If you stop the conversation and try to talk to him again, he'll just speak gibberish.


Bt
Title: Re: Something just doesn't add up
Post by: Kaldire on August 20, 2014, 07:31:15 PM
thats what i thought bt, just it really looked like the sierra logo from where I was sitting,
I guess people see maria in a cheese sandwich so I saw sierra lol

and yea jap is a jabber jaw of jerky junkin 
red bull gives him wingggss lol

or somefin
Title: Re: Something just doesn't add up
Post by: garr on August 20, 2014, 08:27:59 PM
To get at BT, does it matter whether or not you play on high difficulty?
Is it necessary to fight every opponent you come across?
Title: Re: Something just doesn't add up
Post by: Blackthorne on August 20, 2014, 08:50:22 PM
Nope. 

There are several steps.

Kaldire figured out the first one.

Beavis could help you with one.

John Conner could another.

There are many Bridges to cross and minutes to wait for the last.


Bt
Title: Re: Something just doesn't add up
Post by: garr on August 20, 2014, 10:11:04 PM
Quote from: Blackthorne on August 20, 2014, 08:50:22 PM
Nope. 

There are several steps.

Kaldire figured out the first one.

Beavis could help you with one.

John Conner could another.

There are many Bridges to cross and minutes to wait for the last.


Bt
Ayeah, and does Kaldire know he's done the first step? Surely nobody told him. I remember you told me I've done some of the things. Really? You could have fooled me! I suppose it's not too bad if I too have done the first thing, but not likely.
Title: Re: Something just doesn't add up
Post by: Kaldire on August 20, 2014, 10:19:58 PM
yea ive been told,

and most people have done this 1st thing, without really knowing its .. the first thing

interesting other clues,  beavis? really,  need tp for my bunghole? cornholio? couch fishing ooo thad be fun

"robots are people too!"
lol "come with me if you want to live" *well thats sarah conner but still..
Title: Re: Something just doesn't add up
Post by: garr on August 20, 2014, 10:37:51 PM
From all the clues given, one thing must be done before act 2? If so, and BT can't be done until act 2, then after the first thing, all other steps can or must be done in act 2. That's just too much to fathom. Assuming I do the correct thing in act 1, then I should spend semi-eternity in act 2 until I find that @#$%!^&.
Title: Re: Something just doesn't add up
Post by: Blackthorne on August 21, 2014, 07:33:18 AM
You are correct.  One step happens only in Act 2.


Bt
Title: Re: Something just doesn't add up
Post by: chucklas on August 21, 2014, 07:57:03 AM
Quote from: Blackthorne on August 21, 2014, 07:33:18 AM
You are correct.  One step happens only in Act 2.


Bt


And if we want to be technical, the Act 1 thing actually happens before "Act 1." 
Title: Re: Something just doesn't add up
Post by: garr on August 21, 2014, 08:45:34 AM
OH GAWD!!! So reckon I oughta play the heck outa tha game in the prologue, save there and go on to act 2.... GRRRRR
You know, I used to believe I was the world's only living heart donor. People have told me I was heartless. But you all???
Title: Re: Re: Something just doesn't add up
Post by: chucklas on August 21, 2014, 09:15:10 AM
Quote from: garr on August 21, 2014, 08:45:34 AM
OH GAWD!!! So reckon I oughta play the heck outa tha game in the prologue, save there and go on to act 2.... GRRRRR
You know, I used to believe I was the world's only living heart donor. People have told me I was heartless. But you all???


It should eliminate a whole lot of stuff as there is reduced content before Act 1. So, not as heartless as you think!
Title: Re: Something just doesn't add up
Post by: Blackthorne on August 21, 2014, 09:20:07 AM
I have had two kidney transplants.  Heh. Thanks for your donation!  Organ donation saves lives!

Bt
Title: Re: Something just doesn't add up
Post by: SarahLiz on August 21, 2014, 10:54:28 AM
Quote from: Blackthorne on August 20, 2014, 08:50:22 PM
Nope. 

There are several steps.

Kaldire figured out the first one.

Beavis could help you with one.

John Conner could another.

There are many Bridges to cross and minutes to wait for the last.


Bt






First thing that comes to my mind with the Beavis reference is, "Fire! Fire! Fire!!!"
Didn't he always used to say that?

Title: Re: Something just doesn't add up
Post by: Blackthorne on August 21, 2014, 11:29:19 AM
He did until some overeager parents complained.


Bt
Title: Re: Something just doesn't add up
Post by: garr on August 21, 2014, 12:09:08 PM
One thing for sure, a gamer MUST choose one of the three characters. Otherwise, one would never get to act 1!
Title: Re: Something just doesn't add up
Post by: Kaldire on August 21, 2014, 01:30:56 PM
no one ever said it was IN act 1 :P

just its before act 2 ! 

Title: Re: Re: Something just doesn't add up
Post by: Kaldire on August 21, 2014, 01:36:46 PM

Quote
First thing that comes to my mind with the Beavis reference is, "Fire! Fire! Fire!!!"
Didn't he always used to say that?

haha yea, that show caused loads of parental upset

my fav bit was the coffee drinking and couch fishing
cappppaachiinnooo  agua... bunnnghollee tp etc

but yea fire fire fire, and then the vids they watched, one was cut out forever after just 1 airing, it was gwar  "f#$ing an animal" song 
instead they replaced it with another gwar song instead lol

ahh the good days

also ren and stimpy, classic, caused some parental upsets
"my raaarre incurable diseases! Vioooolated!"  "dont wizz on... the electric fence.. no sir" , I dont like it at all (rubber nipple salesman) "oohh joyyyy"

happy happy joy joy

please yes add that log theme song if its possible even for a nano second or two haha
its thick its heavy its woooood

dun dun dunnn

ty for the smiles and laughs
cheers n beers
Title: Re: Something just doesn't add up
Post by: garr on August 21, 2014, 08:43:45 PM
I'm very carefully going at it again as Sorcerer. Doing everything possible, but there is only just so much possible AND logical. It would be sad if the solution was absolutely absurd, which doesn't merit any laurels. In the meantime, anyone ever play Risen 1 and 2? It's due out August 1, but eh... it's available now.

Oh, by the way, Mr. Williams' ashes were sprinkled over S.F. Bay.
Title: Re: Something just doesn't add up
Post by: Kaldire on August 21, 2014, 09:02:29 PM
the ashes, I heard about but didnt know if it really happened

as for risen   yea 1 rocked, 2 was terrible, 3 is just so so, but its been out for weeks as you said,
but for sure not a game I was happy to buy, much like almost all newer titles just a waste of money,
watchdogs, wolf new order, etc.. all poo  id rather play snes style like ys origins or legends of heros trials in the sky stuff like that

or QFI, or my many many gog games retro style or even the new Tex murphy game Telsa effect, aka fedora chronicles lol

I love chris jones , each time we have met he is just awesome to hang with if you like that midstate kinda cowboy pi guy ( we talk a boot' blade runner and such and old noir movies that inspired him to go from flight sims to well tex

hope to see another tex fmv game just with a better engine than unity (he did try for unreal engine but it would have cost the entire kickstart budget! 250k just to use the engine!)

as for the starting over as sorc, and being absurd or merit laurels etc  once you figure it out (which I did by reading posts carefully and coming with the only conclusion that could exist it was a massive FACEPALM moment like really?! that was what it was!? ahh so simple

you will indeed smack your head on how... simplified it is, im not trying to be mean or hide it from you but its fun to find it on your own and if down the road I only get that 1st step im sure ill let ya know if bt doesnt already, just I want to be that guy that CAN keep a secret say if I did find all steps Id tell no one but the crew

I pmed bt saying is this it? in exact wording, and yes it was.
ahh really!
yep really
anyway another hint which ive given is  most people have done this 1st step already
they just dont know it as there is nothing that tells you its that first step, no sound or comment or text or anything

I feel with our over-thinking on the subjects im not optimistic on finding bt but im looking just not atm, and next few days I wont have power so dry rot can be removed from near the air conditioner and outlets

ick
loud and no air in sacramento ahhh nooo powaaa

Title: Re: Something just doesn't add up
Post by: Blackthorne on August 21, 2014, 10:12:14 PM
1 step

It's funny the 1st step is the first step. Rachmaninoff had 24, Debussy as well. For you, though, one will do. Uninterrupted, or all is for not if you want to find me.


Bt
Title: Re: Something just doesn't add up
Post by: garr on August 22, 2014, 07:59:05 AM
First step is the first step? Aw cmon myte! Being as anyone doing everything feasible in the prologue, including the intro, everyone does the first step without knowing it. Therefore, it's absolutely impossible to miss it. Eh, some may fail to talk to Udo a second time.

Possible glitch: I was playing as a sorcerer and thoroughly robbed the house to the left of the bank. Sold the goods to O'burr. Sack of loot still in inventory, but if I try to sell it again, voice says I don't have anything to sell.
Title: Re: Something just doesn't add up
Post by: Kaldire on August 22, 2014, 11:05:30 AM
whats the intro? you mean prologue ? aka not act 1?

hmm.. you are getting close mate I can feel it,

as for the loot same happened to me, its why i mentioned I cant get rid of it, i knew who takes it but .. stays in the inv..

Title: Re: Something just doesn't add up
Post by: sickfiction on August 22, 2014, 11:08:23 AM
love debussy
Spoiler (hover to show)
Title: Re: Re: Something just doesn't add up
Post by: chucklas on August 22, 2014, 11:49:56 AM
Quote from: garr on August 22, 2014, 07:59:05 AM
Possible glitch: I was playing as a sorcerer and thoroughly robbed the house to the left of the bank. Sold the goods to O'burr. Sack of loot still in inventory, but if I try to sell it again, voice says I don't have anything to sell.


Not a glitch.  You still have your loot sack, just no loot to sell.  Once you rob someone, you get the loot sack. After that, you never lose it (for any class).
Title: Re: Re: Something just doesn't add up
Post by: Collector on August 22, 2014, 12:26:02 PM
Quote from: sickfiction on August 22, 2014, 11:08:23 AM
love debussy


I see you your Debussy and raise you an Erik Satie

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7harFCylWNQ (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7harFCylWNQ)
Title: Re: Something just doesn't add up
Post by: Kaldire on August 22, 2014, 01:15:35 PM
hell yea to both!

and oh .. is that why the sack stays.. goootcha

was thinking I could climb down a chimney and give presents
or .. take em muhahaa

who was that comedian... that said santa HAS to be white, because no way could a black man get away with entering someones house with a sack saying ho ho ho..
lol

grr my brain..
:P
Title: Re: Something just doesn't add up
Post by: garr on August 22, 2014, 07:42:19 PM
Getting all 3 items from Brattles' cabin.
Talking to Udo a second time.
After getting moonshiner quest, talking to everyone in town about moonshiner.
I'm still not sure about the blank book in the Tyr library.
Talked to camel at night in Tyr.
Talked to camel owner during daytime.
Is any of the above important, or just my ramblings?
Title: Re: Something just doesn't add up
Post by: chucklas on August 22, 2014, 07:50:02 PM
I'm not sure.
Title: Re: Something just doesn't add up
Post by: Blackthorne on August 22, 2014, 11:55:21 PM
None of those directly will effect it.

One is peripherally involved.


Bt
Title: Re: Something just doesn't add up
Post by: Kaldire on August 23, 2014, 02:15:46 AM
super max potion!! lol

man I tried sprayin perfume on myself and everything else to make the smell go away

Spoiler (hover to show)

never found a use for that potion as I never got near death with almost 200 block aka 100.. and had many regular potions.. shrug.
someone should burn that house down!
buuurnin down the houseee

Title: Re: Something just doesn't add up
Post by: garr on August 23, 2014, 04:55:48 AM
Yep, searched the drawers twice.

SINGING FISH? So, four things to do in the cabin! Wish I had known about the fish.
Title: Re: Something just doesn't add up
Post by: Tijne on August 25, 2014, 07:39:50 AM
I'm catching up, so let me see if I've got this all right.


There are five steps.

The first I'm pretty sure of.

The remaining four can all be done during Act 2 and in any order.  One of which needs to be done within Act 2 and happens at a certain point in Act 2.

One of the four relates to fire.  I think I know this one too.

One of the four relates to numbers, fancy gadgets, and fancy people.
One of the four relates to the blank book in the Library and also 'Dodgson'.
One of the above two also relates to John Conner.

Finally, it ends with being on time, being patient for several minutes, traversing the world, being hydrated, sighing with relief, putting all the things together, and now also crossing bridges.   
...


... I feel more confused than when I started... @_@...
Title: Re: Something just doesn't add up
Post by: garr on August 25, 2014, 08:09:14 AM
What really wizzes me off is getting there and not knowing WTH I did. No rhyme... no reason. GRRRR.... once more into the breech >:( I just wish there was an exact, or logical progression so that I could incorporate it in normal gameplay events.
I'm also fooling around with Risen 3 to really top off the confusion.
Title: Re: Re: Something just doesn't add up
Post by: chucklas on August 25, 2014, 09:02:49 AM
Quote from: garr on August 25, 2014, 08:09:14 AM
What really wizzes me off is getting there and not knowing WTH I did. No rhyme... no reason. GRRRR.... once more into the breech >:( I just wish there was an exact, or logical progression so that I could incorporate it in normal gameplay events.
I'm also fooling around with Risen 3 to really top off the confusion.


There is nothing logical about finding this. Sorry.
Title: Re: Something just doesn't add up
Post by: Blackthorne on August 25, 2014, 12:17:17 PM
Yeah, this is one of those crazy "You might stumble onto it if you're nuts" things, but since you do talk with the devs, at least we've given some hints.

You guys are on the right track.

In addition, to "where it ends" - it ends near where everyone ends.


Bt
Title: Re: Something just doesn't add up
Post by: garr on August 25, 2014, 12:35:08 PM
It ends where it ends ! Yeh, all previous tips are a huge helping hand. One more time, and another, ad infinitem... Nothing can ever be expected to be the same every time. One day it'll pan out to where I can do it NEARLY every time.
Title: Re: Something just doesn't add up
Post by: Kaldire on August 25, 2014, 09:36:44 PM
everyone ends up dead for sure :P

Title: Re: Re: Something just doesn't add up
Post by: Kaldire on August 25, 2014, 09:40:21 PM
Quote from: garr on August 25, 2014, 08:09:14 AM
What really wizzes me off is getting there and not knowing WTH I did. No rhyme... no reason. GRRRR.... once more into the breech >:( I just wish there was an exact, or logical progression so that I could incorporate it in normal gameplay events.
I'm also fooling around with Risen 3 to really top off the confusion.

I Myself have been sick  ahh so not playing anything lately, no joke, looking to get my left hand pinky finger amputated and im a pianist and I play guitar, bass and standard  now I cant, until maybe its removed, ahh just typing im using one hand.. hard to do much ( had surgery on my finger and the doc messed up badly just getting worse n worse)

btw
erase risen 3 lol
save some WOW walkabout and mindless banter if ya could and get gothic 1 2 3
risen =pos series.  coulda been something if the devs there worked a bit more on fixing stuff or not making it ac4 watered down with terrible combat and pointless stats and skills
I went the whole game only putting into lockpicking and silvertongue and never needed anything else

no melee  no magic just knowing how to dodge each hit or 2  zzzz
boooring
story even sucks until, near the end there is a secret some dont find, being yourself on an island from risen 1 and 2
that was funny... other than that.. booooo

lol if you like it then keep truckin! but I played 1 it was decent  2   terrible 3  better than 2 but ahhh
they just dont learn from mistakes and need toooo
see witcher 1 vs 2   then 3  for details
thats a dev that learns

and btw id HATE to test or code those games with all the holes that are or could be in there .. wowzers
Title: Re: Something just doesn't add up
Post by: garr on August 26, 2014, 07:21:48 AM
R3 does seem to hinge on fighting a bit much. Watch some gameplay videos and it's slam bang. Gotta build up those glory points n make the nameless one more powerful. To what end? More power to do more fighting? Guess when I get upset about something, I'll get even by playing some more R3!

Good luck on the surgery!
Title: Re: Something just doesn't add up
Post by: Kaldire on August 26, 2014, 04:32:33 PM
ty mate!

and yea with R3  if you just hit hit roll back or sides ,  or just roll non stop as your (buddy kills) you never even get hit until near end of the game

id say pick voooodooo pirates
but the calador 8 are nice too for tele, just runes are,,, pointless .. anyone can use em

idk seems any path can use all paths items even if they arent apart of it, so the only diff is in what you want to see in astral vision which I think i used like 2 times ever..

again pointless :p

try the roll thing as you have someone thats not bones in the party and watch what I mean about not needing to fight even one swing until you get to harder lands

like skull island
Title: Re: Something just doesn't add up
Post by: garr on August 27, 2014, 02:23:40 PM
Meh.... Think I'll start up some kind of trainer for R3 and just go on a killing vacation.

Now back to QFI, when the BT fight is found, how does it happen, does it just pop out of thin air? Or is the gamer in the wrong place at the right time? At the present, everything seems highly speculative. Maybe BT arrives on an anatomical equine or something  :-X
Title: Re: Something just doesn't add up
Post by: chucklas on August 27, 2014, 02:38:26 PM
First you find him, then you attack him with the sword icon.  The steps described in the forums cover how to find him, not actually fight him.
Title: Re: Something just doesn't add up
Post by: Kaldire on August 27, 2014, 03:07:22 PM
if i find him im kickin his arse!

but with the battle the way it is, without the update not sure how fair it is, as battle is a bit wonky still,
missing 70% of the time with max stats seems off a bit,
but its been said that will be addressed

anyone try just being a mage and doing the heal buff with fire bracers instead of swordplay?
or is bt immune to fire..
lol
Title: Re: Re: Something just doesn't add up
Post by: Kaldire on August 27, 2014, 03:11:59 PM
Quote from: garr on August 27, 2014, 02:23:40 PM
Meh.... Think I'll start up some kind of trainer for R3 and just go on a killing vacation.

Now back to QFI, when the BT fight is found, how does it happen, does it just pop out of thin air? Or is the gamer in the wrong place at the right time? At the present, everything seems highly speculative. Maybe BT arrives on an anatomical equine or something  :-X

as for risen3 you dont need a trainer, ever, trust that, gold is pointless  skills pointless, everything is pointless,
if you do edit anything get the no drain from running, so you can keep running as that is 85% of the game,
just walking around like WOW style with ac4 in the mix,  ship battles are .. ahh just ick
but you like what you like mate, its not a terrible game at all, just nothing im happy I paid for
vs say getting the swag from qfi kick ;p
which im still waiting to do

as for the bt fight you can see from the background that he is somewhere in a time warp or space midriff thing so im assuming the fight is not selective, just have to trigger it
as for fire, some can handle it some cant my first thought was to smoke out the best stuff I had until I went mental bu that never happened, in fact its odd, using the pipe on yourself you just smoke, but no option to choose what to smoke

shrug
back to the drawing board but first   my kickstart order and rest..
hehe
btw im not sure if bt's starting HP is 69  or if its random,  but its funny that pic shows that fun number
and yea his swartz is hugeeee
haha

wonder what he hits for, and if he uses skills or spells
Title: Re: Something just doesn't add up
Post by: Blackthorne on August 27, 2014, 03:20:39 PM
The ability to fight Bt is only just part of what you might find if you find your way...

So, trust me - you'll know when you get there.


Bt
Title: Re: Something just doesn't add up
Post by: garr on August 27, 2014, 03:47:09 PM
There's more than you may think possible in the prologue. See the three guys clearing trees from the path leading to the treants. Can't get past there yet? Find the wasps in the burned out mansion fireplace. Visit Hobbs, get a bee. If you're out in the woods when you hear the call to the execution, you're not pulled there until you've talked to a few people in Volksville.
Title: Re: Something just doesn't add up
Post by: Kaldire on August 27, 2014, 04:21:05 PM
I always tend to do most stuff before the execution lol

so by then im already battling with max block, and aallmost max stats in battle,
and have the bee and stick, jar, stuff for spells etc, (what you can get I get)

the saw guys arent important, its just a blockade until the act 1 allows you to continue on to other places is all so that you dont walk about tooo much

thats about it
hell I even get the spikes and chain and do that 1 infamy point lol,
when you cross from screen to screen, fast... somehow the timer STOPS.. so I can battle forever if i dont sit and loot to long

strange I know but true

Title: Re: Something just doesn't add up
Post by: garr on August 27, 2014, 05:10:04 PM
Now let me get this straight...
You can't get there till act 2
2 things are done or can be done in act 2
One thing must be done before then and not necessarily in act 1, therefore it can be done in the prologue
Since there are 5 things that must be done, and thus far 3 things are accounted for, that leaves 2 things that are done in Act 1!
I hope to goodness that the empty library book is not a factor. I'm quite sick of that THING!
Title: Re: Something just doesn't add up
Post by: garr on August 27, 2014, 07:13:51 PM
Oh yes, why didn't I remember what was stated and the fact that it would relieve you!
Title: Re: Something just doesn't add up
Post by: Kaldire on August 28, 2014, 06:33:07 AM
what was stated? ohhh you went and re-read the clues?
muhahaha

yep someone other than bt pointed that one out, but didnt say if something was a first step or if it would just lead to another HINT,

I think you might have gotten that 1st one now, just by guessing from the post hmm

still sick and now my rent went from 879 to 1408$ per month  ohh gawd my head,  "lyin' in a bed on fire... heartrate 160"
Modding my own post and moving the vids to youtube thread! to not plug up this one!
please check out killola! ive been with thousands of bands this one is by far the most fun in person and great friends of mine,

modified post moved it to here
http://www.infamous-quests.com/forum/index.php?topic=722.new#new (http://www.infamous-quests.com/forum/index.php?topic=722.new#new)
Title: Re: Something just doesn't add up
Post by: garr on August 28, 2014, 10:07:01 AM
I just don't know what to feel, being as I'm mostly a classical and operatic buff. Grew up with such radio shows as The Fat man, The Lone Ranger, The Shadow, etc. But the vids did have some pretty good beats.

Gamewise for QFI, I suspect that all scenes like Intro, mass crowd at beginning of act 1, and da%&*t the type in book in library, all have some importance. The scene ones should not be fast skipped but fully listened to and any other lengthy dialogues in game.

Those who know will be enlightened. Nah, probably not.
Title: Re: Something just doesn't add up
Post by: Kaldire on August 28, 2014, 10:24:13 AM
check that thread out I posted loads of vids
all but tim minchin  I know personally and trust me you will laugh or you might be dead in the mind haha

if its not your cup o tea thats ok its just me sharing,
as for the book, yeaaaa
grrrrr lol

I tried loads of words in that sucker,  no joke I have about 3400 words ive tried
such as  will wheton  will smith,  will scarlet, then odd stuff like
will wake will awaken will transcend will die, will find will win, will cheat will lose, will see, will know,
etc

anyway check the link again ive added a few funny clips for the laughs as well as a few bands ive helped on tour including that band I mentioned that made me say mate and cheers so much from uk tours

but tim minchin i just laughed,  if you really loved me and im so fucking rock
haha just hahaha
and stephen lynch   craig and beelz  then the dirty sanchez
and the ever so hot "the donnas" who i went to highschool with 2 of, and yes they are smokin hot esp the singer and lead guitarist who has been compared to insane people as being better than them
I cant list em, but metallica  and ozzies many guitarists dont even compare to her
she even uses the same axe as fagmalligca
oops my bad  used to love metallica now... ick

Title: Re: Something just doesn't add up
Post by: garr on August 28, 2014, 07:17:29 PM
Even Those who know will see?

Anyhow, finally realized the futility of playing a hack n slash and uninstalled R3. Threw away all documentation AND the game disk! The viewing of action further along of a shipboard cannon fight where you have to aim properly to sink the other ships. Hard to do on a rolling ship. A huge diversion from R1 and R2, which I played several times each.
Title: Re: Something just doesn't add up
Post by: garr on August 28, 2014, 11:35:50 PM
Quote from: chucklas on August 27, 2014, 02:38:26 PM
First you find him, then you attack him with the sword icon.  The steps described in the forums cover how to find him, not actually fight him.
"The steps described in the forums cover how to find him...." Maybe cryptographic statements about finding him, but NOT actually how to find him. Curses... fire the person that started the BT business in the first place. It has ruined the game for me at least.
Title: Re: Re: Something just doesn't add up
Post by: chucklas on August 29, 2014, 07:35:54 AM
Quote from: garr on August 28, 2014, 11:35:50 PM
Curses... fire the person..."


That sounds quite a bit like one of the steps...
Title: Re: Something just doesn't add up
Post by: Kaldire on August 29, 2014, 09:27:47 AM
haha and he was half joking!

niiice

your fireeeeed
fired firred

set on fire to fire a person,  ooh the irony hehe
your fired! (lights cigar)
Title: Re: Something just doesn't add up
Post by: garr on August 29, 2014, 12:07:57 PM
Seems like I have unknowingly stated something that actually makes sense!

There seems to be some confusion in the Killington Family Tree;
It's stated, when reading Jeremy Hummel's diary, that he's Jarrett's father.
There's no mention in the family tree of a Jeremy or Jarrett. Or am I missing something.
Title: Re: Something just doesn't add up
Post by: Kaldire on August 29, 2014, 01:42:43 PM
did u notice the one entry of KILLED IN BATTLE

and below that im again not sure if its a typo but instead of SEE PAGE
it just says SEE 

and yep you prolly did unknowingly state a step or part of one lol
but there is no firing anyone that i can see from my plays, but maybe using a flint or box on someone

I wish there was infamy points for items combined
like when you do flint and tinder box rohem says OH NO or something like it will explode or such,
wish it would and game over, or explode and u live 
or do it in the right area

as for water im thinkin it has to do with the friggen sneak into the tyr aqueduct i keep trying to murder that woman but she just kills ya when you jump down grr
have a cigar woman or a hit off this pipe i bought calm down!

btw where does she go, never had a path that made sense as you can do this as soon as u get unlock as sorc or thief in act 1 but it ends up going no where, at least in terms of needing to continue with the main line .. shrug
im lost as the only way to get there from my plays as fighter is climbing down from the ruins, but then what, not sure if im just working backwards as it seems a way to sneak back into tyr not out..
but where did that woman go? in the water? is she naked bathing? oooo
rohem wants some o dat you know thisss mannn
lol

ok folks putting in my 300$ orderrrr todaaaaaaaay

as im now singing neil diamond for some reason   "tooodayyyyy!! my country tis of theeee!! todaaay! swweet land of INFAMYYYY haha  vs liberty.. oh nm
slaps self

 
Title: Re: Something just doesn't add up
Post by: garr on August 29, 2014, 07:18:32 PM
Here is something I found by hacking the game.exe

This fine fellow is Blackthorne, one of the founders of Infamous Quests, and the writer of 'Quest For Infamy'. Everything I am saying right now, he thought of first. No way! Yes. He thought of that too. What a great fellow! Indeed. You don't want to starting something with him. If you're brave, challenge him with your sword! Hello there, Blackthorne, sir..

Blackthorne. Please. Call me Steve. Fine then. This is some kind of meta-conversation, isn't it, Steve?. Blackthore. You said it. I'm going to need therapy after this. You decide to challenge Blackthorne to combat.. Hey! You! Let's fight!.

Blackthorne. Every time I'm in a virtual bar, someone has to start with me... let's get this over.. This dashing young adventure is Klytos, the co-founder of IQ and co-creator of 'Quest For Infamy'! What a guy!. Klytos. You better believe it.. Blackthorne. Hah! Nice work pal. You nearly killed me then. Except of course, I'm invincible.. Blackthorne. Good use of healing potions too, that's gonna cost you a lot to replace.........

So you can clearly see the virtual bar does indeed exist. But you know, that sucks knowing something exists and not having access to it! Do you suppose the secret bar is behind the curtain in the tobacco shop?

You know, chucklas once posted:
It's like finding totaka's song.  The fun is in finding it, and once someone does, the fun is over.

That's like if you've never had something, you'll never miss it! An example, you're presently getting along ok on a meager income, then suddenly you learn that due to some mishap, you could have had $1 million but it got permanently misplaced. Since you never physically had it, you'll never miss it!