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Title: Has anyone actually received their physical boxed edition of Quest for Infamy?
Post by: led on April 25, 2016, 11:40:44 AM
I've been asking about the physical boxed copy every 4 months or so since mid 2014.  I received responses via e-mail up until December of 2015.  So I tried twitter and got a response saying that they shipped out some but will continue shipping on December 20th of 2015.  I sent a followup e-mail April 20th 2016 asking about shipping, but haven't gotten any response yet.

So just wondering if anyone has gotten their box yet over the past 2 years.  I was hesitant to buy other physical stuff since I wasn't sure if it would ship or not, but I love me some physical game content.
Title: Re: Has anyone actually received their physical boxed edition of Quest for Infamy?
Post by: Kaldire on May 06, 2016, 03:25:59 PM
yea im a bit worried myself mate

Not sure but I do believe some have gotten some things but I cant confirm and dont want to start rumors.

Any updates bt?

Hows the fam btw!! sleeeeep well!
hit us up status updates! going on 2 years may for awaiting our swag goodness mm!

cheers n beers
-kal
Title: Re: Has anyone actually received their physical boxed edition of Quest for Infamy?
Post by: Blackthorne on May 07, 2016, 10:08:40 AM
Still going out - I'm only getting a few packages out a week, though, right now.  Everyone will get their stuff, but it's taking me longer than I'd like.  Don't worry - people will get their stuff; we do have them! We just don't have a dedicated shipping staff and it's killing me!!  Broomie and Klytos can confirm, we have all the stuff, just sending it out is slow going. 

If I have one thing to tell people about Kickstarters, it is never underestimate how much time and effort your shipping will taker, and make sure you have someone absolutely dedicated to JUST that! (Or use a shipping house; they have them now for kickstarters,  When we did 'em, they didn't have such things for smaller businesses like ours....)

Bt
Title: Re: Has anyone actually received their physical boxed edition of Quest for Infamy?
Post by: Kaldire on May 07, 2016, 03:18:36 PM
yea I have indeed been on that end

minus KS

again with ttg's mainly, ughh nightmare, again its why TTG's no longer sells merch at ALL!

so its understandable.
can you blame us for wanting our awesome stuff though? hehe

goooood luck mate again! I know how .. much headache and time it truly is to do it from home or office without a shipping house or service that does it all for ya!

dont make the same mistake next time though !
esp with widdle baby! so much work just in newborns muchless sending swag out tooo!
and working on games!

wowzer do you sleep?

insert youtube vid of bt singing on 5 days no sleep

song title
"dagwood blues" or "the layered sandwich that cant be ate" aka " blondie get me off this crazy thing!"

Title: Re: Has anyone actually received their physical boxed edition of Quest for Infamy?
Post by: galbyman on May 07, 2016, 10:16:10 PM
Hey BT, I am very anxious to get my copy but totally understand the situation.  Especially with that baby that you now have.  I have four and there is not time for anything when I get home.
Title: Re: Has anyone actually received their physical boxed edition of Quest for Infamy?
Post by: Blackthorne on May 08, 2016, 11:52:05 AM
Haha, no, I can't blame people for wanting their stuff - it's pretty cool.  I promise it'll get there - just taking me longer than I'd like. Someday it'll be all done and we'll all be laughing about it!


Bt
Title: Re: Has anyone actually received their physical boxed edition of Quest for Infamy?
Post by: led on May 11, 2016, 04:35:23 PM
Thanks for the responses!  I'll be sure to post an update whenever I get mine.
Title: Re: Has anyone actually received their physical boxed edition of Quest for Infamy?
Post by: Sven_Q45 on June 08, 2016, 05:48:21 PM
I´m waiting every day. Well it´s two pakages. :)

Well ok three. When I already count Order of the Thorne and QFI Roehm to Ruin.
Title: Re: Has anyone actually received their physical boxed edition of Quest for Infamy?
Post by: Vesko on June 11, 2016, 01:52:29 PM
I'm also waiting for my package. Can you please give an update how many packages have been shipped and how many left. When is the expected date of delivery?
Title: Re: Has anyone actually received their physical boxed edition of Quest for Infamy?
Post by: Kaldire on June 16, 2016, 03:49:41 PM
yea mate we are alll kinda waiting

ive not seen anyone post they got anything yet

I do trust the devs but time keeps going by  real life kicks in, new games and updates kick in. etc

just hoping for some awesome swag on my end too
been quite sometime since we were teased with artbook pdf!

hehe

ooo me wants my preccciousss.

Title: Re: Has anyone actually received their physical boxed edition of Quest for Infamy?
Post by: Sven_Q45 on July 18, 2016, 01:33:40 PM
Thank you for the update. I know how hard it is. I´m waiting every day eagerly. I´m happy that you inform us. Well it would be a big surprise if sometimes it´s waiting on my door. :D As I hoped so. ;) But it´s better now that you contact us before sending them out. :)

I´m still waiting and I didn´t lost the anticipation. It´s bigger than ever before. :)
Title: Re: Has anyone actually received their physical boxed edition of Quest for Infamy?
Post by: Sektor on July 22, 2016, 02:04:44 AM
I'm surprised anything has been posted, wasn't the plan to wait until v2.0 came out before making physical copies?
Title: Re: Has anyone actually received their physical boxed edition of Quest for Infamy?
Post by: Klytos on July 22, 2016, 02:53:49 AM
Everything was printed after 2.0 was done.
Title: Re: Has anyone actually received their physical boxed edition of Quest for Infamy?
Post by: Sektor on July 30, 2016, 10:52:11 AM
So v2.0 was released?  It still shows as beta on steam but maybe that's what you meant.
Title: Re: Has anyone actually received their physical boxed edition of Quest for Infamy?
Post by: arremelle on September 04, 2016, 06:39:34 AM
 :( still no physical box set either. I think its time to give up on it. Its true that the kickstarter perks are not guaranteed. I myself have only received about 50% of the perks on all the kickstarter projects I backed.

Title: Re: Has anyone actually received their physical boxed edition of Quest for Infamy?
Post by: Chadly on September 04, 2016, 12:08:38 PM
Folks, I implore you to be patient and show some understanding for Blackthorne's current situation. He is the only one who is shipping out rewards. Also he has a newborn baby to take care of. On top of that he is working on Roehm to Ruin and Fortress of Fire. Also I'm sure he has other responsibilities that we as backers know nothing about. I'm sure he is as frustrated as some of the backers are.  For myself, I'm content to be patient, and I'd ask all of you to be patient too:) 
Title: Re: Has anyone actually received their physical boxed edition of Quest for Infamy?
Post by: Blackthorne on September 04, 2016, 09:20:55 PM
@arremelle (http://www.infamous-quests.com/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=160) They ARE coming, it's just super slow for me, really, I only get to a few a day.  Thanks @Chadly (http://www.infamous-quests.com/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=31) for being understanding. Work will continue until everyone gets their stuff.  Really, we have it - I just don't have the manpower at the moment to help me with packaging up everything and sending it out properly. I had one backer report that his box arrived in bad condition, so I'm trying a new kind of cardboard box and filler to send the stuff - AND I have to keep it cost effective.  It sucks, but it continues.


Bt
Title: Re: Has anyone actually received their physical boxed edition of Quest for Infamy?
Post by: Kaldire on September 04, 2016, 11:44:10 PM
keep us informed and if you need a bit more dosh for shipping dont hesitate to ask matey

rock on
cheers n beers



Title: Re: Has anyone actually received their physical boxed edition of Quest for Infamy?
Post by: janx on September 05, 2016, 12:52:32 AM
Thank you for the update BT.

Ignore that message I sent you, this answers it all, however the sentiment remains, you are awesome, please don't ever stop making entertainment.


Title: Re: Has anyone actually received their physical boxed edition of Quest for Infamy?
Post by: arremelle on September 05, 2016, 04:29:31 AM
thanks for the update and apologies for my miserable and cynical post. Real life priorities should absolutely always come first. I will be more patient with it.

I would also be happy to send some additional money over for the extra packing and shipping.
Title: Re: Has anyone actually received their physical boxed edition of Quest for Infamy?
Post by: Blackthorne on September 05, 2016, 11:01:59 AM
It's okay, it wasn't miserable, you were asking an honest question.  It just bums me out that I can't get these out faster.  They ARE coming though.


Bt
Title: Re: Has anyone actually received their physical boxed edition of Quest for Infamy?
Post by: Kaldire on September 05, 2016, 03:28:42 PM
you sure?

maybe they are just breathing really hard...
lol
Title: Re: Has anyone actually received their physical boxed edition of Quest for Infamy?
Post by: Goatmeal on September 05, 2016, 03:59:00 PM
you sure?

maybe they are just breathing really hard...
lol

Narrator: "Larry, perhaps you should keep little quips like these to yourself and just get on with the game, hmmm?"
Title: Re: Has anyone actually received their physical boxed edition of Quest for Infamy?
Post by: Chadly on September 05, 2016, 04:11:39 PM
@Goatmeal (http://www.infamous-quests.com/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=127)   LOL. Funny!;)
Title: Re: Has anyone actually received their physical boxed edition of Quest for Infamy?
Post by: Kaldire on September 05, 2016, 08:16:39 PM
hehehe

yea al and I have had many o chuckles in our time :)

its good to be here ... its nice to be had.. etc  alwaysss something funny with him XD
Title: Re: Has anyone actually received their physical boxed edition of Quest for Infamy?
Post by: helmishgen on November 28, 2016, 09:44:16 AM
Posting here since we are receiving no feedback through the Kickstarter page.  Here is a transcript of the last bit of information, notice the dates.

Paskarl (k0SH) on October 20
ANY UPDATE ON SHIPPING 'Quest For Infamy' and 'The Quest For Infamy Companion - Art/Strategy/Hint Book' ??? :(

eXoScoriae on October 24
Nope. No updates. Maybe in January we will get another update telling us about how hard it is to be a dad and a responsible adult at the same time.

Steven "Blackthorne" Alexander 3-time creator on October 24
I'm mailing them out, one at a time, as I get to them - sending out a few a week. I did speak to Paskarl about this personally on FB, I only saw this message today. Packages are going out, I don't really have anything more exciting to update that to say that. Yours should arrive soon. Don't worry, in January I'm sure I'll have something new to tell you, but sarcasm duly noted.

eXoScoriae on October 25
What do you expect? You've had the boxes for over a year.
September 2015 - Yay, the boxes are here!
January - I'm sending out a few each day.
April 1st-20th - Boxes are being sent every day
July 18th - Your boxes are going out soon.
I just went and added up the number of people who pledged at tiers that included the physical dvd and/or the big box. I came up with 375 (rounding up).
If you had sent even 1 game a day since they came in, you would be done by now. So your claim that you are sending a few every day is bull.


Helmishgen on October 27
Steven, a suggestion if I may. Ship to eXo Scoriae or Paskarl or myself, we will then post here that we have received and that should, at the very least, let those who look for info here know that packages are in fact going out. I know there are only us vocal few who are still posting here but the fact that no one has posted stating they have received their items is concerning.

Steven "Blackthorne" Alexander 3-time creator on October 27
Right, probably because they aren't checking back here - I'll make sure to send your packages out next. I'm sending out some tomorrow (Friday) and I will specifically send your packages. I'll send you guys receipts and pics via PM tomorrow afternoon.

Helmishgen on November 13
Well, over two weeks have gone by since the last post made by Steven. In said post, he claimed he was going to send packages out to a few of us, myself being one of them. Also mentioned he would send receipts, pics, and PMs. I received none of those and, of course, have not received my package. I have been patient for quite a long time now and attempted to give Steven every benefit of the doubt but I can no longer say that. I have reached the point where I have to consider that shipping is not actually happening as he claims and that it is possible that said packages don't even exist. Steven and the crew are all very talented individuals who delivered a great game as promised. But after being told personally that my package was to be shipped plus evidence of said shipping and receiving none of that, I can't help but think that I am being lied to. That we all are being lied to. At this point, I highly doubt I'll ever receive my physical rewards. I hope at least some of you do.

Paskarl (k0SH) 6 days ago
"I have been patient for quite a long time now and attempted to give Steven every benefit of the doubt but I can no longer say that. I have reached the point where I have to consider that shipping is not actually happening as he claims and that it is possible that said packages don't even exist. "
SADLY, have to agree.
NO ONE on FB or here EVER posted a pic of receiving a package.
But a lot have already sent out if we believe in what was told over and over again.
Last "next week 100% sure" message is again many weeks old.
This STINKS a lot and I'm done with excuses all over again.
Seems that money is lost once and forever :(


I hate having to post this and I don't care for the fact that eXoScoriae made it a bit personal but we don't believe that we are getting the full story or, in the worst case, being lied to.  None of us have received our physical copies as promised by Steven in the above interaction.  No PMs, no tracking, and no updates.  It would be one thing if we were still lumped in with the general "they are shipping" updates but in this case we were told specifically that our packages would be mailed so we could be vocal and help put minds at ease about whether or not packages were being sent out. 

Didn't happen.

I don't know what else to do.
Title: Re: Has anyone actually received their physical boxed edition of Quest for Infamy?
Post by: MusicallyInspired on November 29, 2016, 07:18:08 PM
Everyone needs to just make their peace with the fact that it may take a long long time to get your box and rewards and whatnot. But they will get done. There is no way around the delay. IQ (and especially Blackthorne) are incredibly sorry, but there's only so much one man can do. They're not a big distribution company. They're literally one man doing all the shipping for hundreds of shipments by himself in his house, while living in real life with jobs, health issues, children, bills, and who knows what else. Think about how you would be able to get all that done by yourself and chill out.

Let me be clear, I'm not a member of IQ, but I have an inkling of what it's like having been a part of another Kickstarter. It's no walk in the park and just because these guys are awesome enough to complete a game (in the style of something 25 years old, let's remember, not modern and full 3D DX12 etc that costs millions to develop and publish) doesn't mean they can do everything in record time. These people have lives. This is their side hobby and every one of you pledged for them to make a game. The rewards are coming but stop and think about this for a moment: they actually finished and released their games and you can all play them right now. That's more than a lot of Kickstarted games can say. Especially indie ones.

You have a game. Enjoy it. The money you pledged helped fund it. Be happy about that. Put this on the back burner and go on with your life. Then one day it'll arrive on your doorstep and you'll be thrilled and forget all about all of this.

Paskarl especially is driving me completely nuts with his entitled attitude and unrealistic expectations while blasting them on different Facebook groups about it. Just stop it. I mean, you helped the underdog get a few games out. And now you're complaining because they're acting like the underdog? They're still the underdog! The measly amount of money we gave them to make a couple games doesn't change that.
Title: Re: Has anyone actually received their physical boxed edition of Quest for Infamy?
Post by: Kaldire on November 29, 2016, 09:34:58 PM
odd
well me I dont mind the wait,
just keep hoping each year esp round now (my bday dec 5th) that a package will arrive.

knowing I helped fund the game is awesome as heck
but its not the point matey

as bt has mentioned its a SOB to pack your own stuff, trust me.. I know.
this is again why TTG's no longer sells retail stuff at ALL.

but each time i get a pm or message from bossman, he says its on its way or such and i get VERY excited only to have it never show up :(

I still eagerly await it.
and for those that pitched in higher amounts well, we seem to be last idk..
also higher amounts should have warranted expedition in this process but, so far no signs of our stuffs!

here is hoping this year!

hugs hugs
either way, its not like the money is comin back to us, just hoping for some really great swag to hold and have and say loook! oooo

im putting my qfi stuff in a glass case if and when it arrives.
XD
Title: Re: Has anyone actually received their physical boxed edition of Quest for Infamy?
Post by: helmishgen on November 30, 2016, 12:10:23 AM
Now that mister completely missed the point got his rant out we can move on.

The issue isn't how long it's taking.

The issue is that we are being told things that aren't happening. 

We have been told since September 2015 that packages are going out and a number of us have been told personally that our packages are being sent. Yet, with the exception of one person claiming they got their companion, no one has posted here, on Facebook, or Kickstarter saying they have received their rewards. If a large number of the packages have been sent, which the updates on Kickstarter claim, surely we would have heard about it long before now.

It also doesn't help that Blackthorne has gone silent as of late.

I'm open to the idea that I'm completely wrong, and I hope I am, but it sure doesn't seem that way.


Title: Re: Has anyone actually received their physical boxed edition of Quest for Infamy?
Post by: Chadly on November 30, 2016, 02:02:21 AM
Ok friends, not to kiss Blackthone and company's ass here but consider this:  You create a game out of an idea. You ask some 1000 plus others to help you do this, with no guarantee that its going to get done.  You as a backer take a Massive risk in giving your money to the creators. (Which I did, more than once on a couple platforms, plus buy tshirts, and multiple games after the fact.:)  Now as a backer I am waiting for a QFI Strategy guide, or whatever else one pledged for.  Yes it sucks to wait around with no info.  Has anyone considered BT situation? One man with no help to ship items.  A guy who has health issues and a newborn baby to deal with.?  Yeah I can understand the frustration, but if you managed to get the game you helped to create, consider yourself lucky as for me, I have gave money to othe projects via "Kickstarter" that have folded and I got absolutely nothing at a!! I.E. Super Retro Squad.

    I understand  the frustration, but shit man be patient or chalk it up as a loss.  Emailing BT or posting less than complementary posts will only delay delivery, as it will piss the creators off.  They in all reality don't owe you jack shit, or me.  I paid for a game (actually two) and have received one, with one coming.

    As I guy who works retail and has worked in the past, with the shipping services,  ITs a lot of work and money.  Not to say that perhaps IQ underestimated this fact.  Try shipping 500 packages all over the world, pay for it, and hope they get there undamaged.?  I could quote costs for packages as shipping, but its a small fortune to say the least.  And yes I know folks who pledged at high levels expect to be compensated or expect to get what was promised.   I am in no way making this personal as others have seemed to done. But hey Kickstarter projects are a gamble.  This gamble has paid off to me, (QFI, Order of the Thorne, and Roehm to Ruin.)

                                                                                                                     Chadly :)
Title: Re: Has anyone actually received their physical boxed edition of Quest for Infamy?
Post by: helmishgen on November 30, 2016, 09:28:01 AM
It appears that you guys aren't reading my posts.  Let me try again.

Time. Is. Not. The. Issue.

If they were still working on the game I'd be fine with that.  If the physical rewards weren't done yet I'd be fine with that.  If Blackthorne said rewards aren't being shipped because of whatever, I'd be fine with that.

What I'm not fine with is telling people that their rewards will ship tomorrow or on the weekend, or next week and then not doing so.  Don't tell people you are going to do something if you have no intention of doing so or are unable to do so.

As to all this defense of the difficulty of shipping stuff, I don't buy it.  I've sold on eBay for years and I've easily moved 25+ packages in a week by myself.  Doing so while working a full time job, family, having a life, etc.  An hour or two worth of time in the evening preparing packages and mailing them on my lunch hour the next day.  If eXoScoriae's calculations are correct and using an average of 10 packages a week, everyone would have their items by now.

The only conclusion that seems to make sense is that they ran out of money which is quite feasible if they did underestimate the cost of fulfillment.  That being said, I even offered to pay for my shipping and suggested that they offer it to the backers as an option to help easy the burden but received no response.

Please understand, I don't want to be making these posts and I do think that Steven is a stand up guy that is most likely in over his head with the fulfillment but the empty promises being made to people is in very bad form.

If it's not happening, don't tell people that it is.  Simple as that.
Title: Re: Has anyone actually received their physical boxed edition of Quest for Infamy?
Post by: Kaldire on November 30, 2016, 09:19:42 PM
but... i want my cooooool qfi stuff!

hehe

Title: Re: Has anyone actually received their physical boxed edition of Quest for Infamy?
Post by: MusicallyInspired on December 01, 2016, 01:51:12 AM
It appears that you guys aren't reading my posts.  Let me try again.

Time. Is. Not. The. Issue.

I beg to differ. Time is absolutely the issue. Why are you asking questions about promises that were made to you that you aren't getting answers for?....Because people pressed him for those answers and for those promises because.....they're worried about the amount of time it's taking. Don't pretend that's not where all of this is stemming from. This entire problem wouldn't exist otherwise.

Everyone needs to just shut up and wait. Nothing is going to speed the process along.

Quote
The only conclusion that seems to make sense is that they ran out of money which is quite feasible if they did underestimate the cost of fulfillment.  That being said, I even offered to pay for my shipping and suggested that they offer it to the backers as an option to help easy the burden but received no response.

Maybe you're right and maybe he should. Is anything you're saying really helping? I'm just floored because you all actually got a game. You got it. They delivered exactly what their whole campaign was about exactly how they said they would. It was everything they promised and they gave it to you. And you're going to write off their integrity entirely over the stupid rewards? I can understand if a KS completely failed to deliver outright, and there was no compensation given (even though none is required), but this one finished in incredible time. And causing unnecessary stress to the man while he's doing the best he can isn't going to help anything. Just wait. I've been waiting for Double-Fine's stuff for 4 years and it's finally shipping. SpaceVenture has just missed its deadline, let alone the rewards. I just didn't expect this amount of whining over the rewards after getting the actual project. Unbelievable.

Honestly, Kickstarter was the worst thing to ever happen to gaming. Indie gaming, specifically.

I'm sorry, I'm heated. I just hate seeing this kind of attitude ferment into such a big problem for so many people. And I'm not just talking to you specifically, helmishgen. There are a lot more much less civil and much more vocal and negative people out there throwing tantrums over this.
Title: Re: Has anyone actually received their physical boxed edition of Quest for Infamy?
Post by: Chadly on December 01, 2016, 02:11:35 AM
@MusicallyInspired (http://www.infamous-quests.com/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=106). I totally agree with you.  Some backers are acting like children.  I understand the frustration bUT what about the KS projects I funded that deliverd nothing? That really burns me. Kickstarter is a huge gamble.  I am waiting for spaceventure and hero u which are years late. I won't support any more KS's due to being burned.  Bt  has posted his reasons for the delays, but they don't seem to comprehend them.  Patience is needed not scornful remarks has some have made sadly. Let them bitch because Steve's not answering. I can imagine the stress this is on him and his family.  CHADLY. :)
Title: Re: Has anyone actually received their physical boxed edition of Quest for Infamy?
Post by: helmishgen on December 01, 2016, 05:20:01 PM
MusicallyInspired, you fanboy hard.   ;)

Come on, guys.  You don't find it the least bit odd that after over a years worth of shipping we have little to no evidence of it?  I did some digging and all I found was this:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Quest-For-Infamy-Extremely-Ultra-Rare-Physical-Copy-w-Game-cd-and-Manual-/282134789420 (http://www.ebay.com/itm/Quest-For-Infamy-Extremely-Ultra-Rare-Physical-Copy-w-Game-cd-and-Manual-/282134789420)

The guy even talks about all this in the description.

So with the post on Kickstarter that's one game and one companion accounted for.  You don't find that odd?

No posts on the forums of "Got my physical copy!  check out this badassness!", no unboxings, no reviews on Youtube, it's weird.  I know our community is small but I don't think it's that small.

All I'm saying is it doesn't add up.

I'm right there with you guys with the other campaigns and I've been burned a number of times myself.  I guess I just really don't want this to be one of them, in any part of the campaign.  I have to disagree that the rewards aren't important.  The rewards dictate the pledge.  To offer up something to encourage people to spend more money and then not follow through is dishonest and wrong.  I'm not saying that is happening here at all.  Just that it is an important factor of the whole process and it's probably the factor that gets campaigns funded more often than not.

As an aside, the Companion is now available through Amazon.
Title: Re: Has anyone actually received their physical boxed edition of Quest for Infamy?
Post by: Kaldire on December 01, 2016, 05:36:47 PM
wait so..
some guy did get a huge box reward..?

and then.. sold it on ebay? wtf?

1. how did he get it
2. why did he sell it, thats very uncool

"Well... to my knowledge, thus far I'm the only owner of a physical copy who is also a Kickstarter backer of said game. "

the quote above and his description disturbs me, and prolly should upset bt and the crew.. you dont gloat like that..
im the only one BWHAHAHAA now i sell ..
wtf

and then down the desc he spits in the devs and our faces

"Can this change in the upcoming months before the end of the year and the backers will finally be getting their long overdue physical goodies? I suppose so... I just wouldn't bet on it based on all the previous promises of impeding shipping of physical goods, only to disappoint the backers time and again."
now im a bit.. upset

Title: Re: Has anyone actually received their physical boxed edition of Quest for Infamy?
Post by: helmishgen on December 01, 2016, 06:02:15 PM
Yeah, comments were not cool and clearly he's not a true fan.  My box will be right there along side all of the Sierra greats, right where it belongs.
Title: Re: Has anyone actually received their physical boxed edition of Quest for Infamy?
Post by: Chadly on December 02, 2016, 08:36:34 AM
Hey all, could it be this mysterious poster and owner of the companion and game is a liar?  Could it be he is full of shit? Is he telling the truth? Who knows? ALL I know is I support a great company who makes great games and will continue to do so. Chadly
Title: Re: Has anyone actually received their physical boxed edition of Quest for Infamy?
Post by: Blackthorne on December 02, 2016, 09:50:38 AM
That Ebay dude is a dick. He's not the only one who's got one, and plus - he sold it? After bitching? What a douche.

(EDIT: Also, starting bid $50? Top bid $143? Reserve not met? Cripes.... He was only selling the DVD case of it....)

I'm sending out when I can, bigger packages haven't gone out yet.  I keep trying my best; I sent out a couple, got some reports of bad shipping, so I ordered some new shipping boxes from ULINE, trying to pack things up and send them out when I can.  I understand some people are mad, and some people are amazingly awesome and patient.

I know now why companies have their own shipping departments and packaging departments, because, really, I can't handle this task myself in any kind of timely manner.  We'll probably never do anything like this again because we've generated absolutely zero profit as a company (and I'm so far in the hole personally, sometimes I feel like the best thing I could do would be to pass away and hope there's a life insurance policy on my for my family) but if we DO, I'd make sure to hire a production house.  Many have sprung up in the wake of Kickstarter and physical reward production and I would add their cost into the goal of Kickstarter... but, alas, we didn't.  I have funds allocated for shipping - this isn't my problem, it's time and effort, which I have in rare supply from myself.

Anyway, I appreciate the support from those who give it, and while I understand the puckish and spurious attitude of some, I can't really do much to speed up the process to your liking at this point, so hold tight, and you'll get your rewards soon.  I'm just glad you got the game, as that was the most important thing.

I hope you're all doing well, really, you guys are great.  Sorry this end of things hasn't worked out as I hoped.


Bt
Title: Re: Has anyone actually received their physical boxed edition of Quest for Infamy?
Post by: helmishgen on December 02, 2016, 12:28:38 PM
@Blackthorne (http://www.infamous-quests.com/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=2), seriously man, if I lived near you I would volunteer to assist with shipping just to get it off your plate.

A question, the Companions on Amazon, are those from you guys or a third party?  Can you utilize Amazon fulfillment for the Companions at this point?
Title: Re: Has anyone actually received their physical boxed edition of Quest for Infamy?
Post by: Blackthorne on December 02, 2016, 02:23:00 PM
Those are third party; it's print on demand.  The company that printed the books for us runs that end. 

Thanks for the volunteer of help, I appreciate the sentiment.  It's just hard, for me, right now to get any help.  Hopefully I'll get some soon and I can get a great volume out at a time.  Really, I wish I had just someone who could sit in my living room with all the stuff, a spreadsheet, and start boxing and labeling all day long...

Bt
Title: Re: Has anyone actually received their physical boxed edition of Quest for Infamy?
Post by: Kaldire on December 02, 2016, 07:27:01 PM
been there dude omg been there

dont envy you!

as for that ebay guy yeaaaa
ughhh really...people kinda make me ill!

hugs bossman huge ones

and hugs to everyone still hanging on and supporting !
IQS for life!

Title: Re: Has anyone actually received their physical boxed edition of Quest for Infamy?
Post by: MusicallyInspired on December 04, 2016, 07:12:16 PM
MusicallyInspired, you fanboy hard.   ;)

I'm not a fanboy, Steven is a good friend of mine.
Title: Re: Has anyone actually received their physical boxed edition of Quest for Infamy?
Post by: Blackthorne on December 06, 2016, 07:10:09 PM
MusicallyInspired, you fanboy hard.   ;)

I'm not a fanboy, Steven is a good friend of mine.

It's true, we've been friends for well over a decade.


Bt
Title: Re: Has anyone actually received their physical boxed edition of Quest for Infamy?
Post by: eXoScoriae on December 12, 2016, 04:46:33 PM
"I'll make sure to send your packages out next. I'm sending out some tomorrow (Friday) and I will specifically send your packages. I'll send you guys receipts and pics via PM tomorrow afternoon."

You posted that to me and 2 others back on Oct. 27th.

This suggests you haven't sent a single package since Oct. And that is without getting into the debate as to whether you have *ever* sent anything out (apart from the one guy on eBay).

This isn't about patience at this point. It is about repeated false promises. 

As I posted in the KS comments, this sums up the last 14 months:

September 2015 - Yay, the boxes are here!
January - I'm sending out a few each day.
April 1st-20th - Boxes are being sent every day
July 18th - Your boxes are going out soon.
Oct 27th - I'll send out exo's and two others next to prove I'm shipping

I just went and added up the number of people who pledged at tiers that included the physical dvd and/or the big box. I came up with 375 (rounding up).

If you had sent even 1 game a day since they came in, you would be done by now. So your claim that you are sending a few every day is bull.

Even if you had sent 3 a week, which I remember you stating at one point, then you would have had half of them sent out. And yet, how many people have come to your defense and stated they received theirs?

I do believe you have sent some out. But I also believe you go months at a time without sending anything out, and then exaggerate about how often you have sent items in the comment section.

I've mad my intentions clear both at the KS and to you in a direct comment. And it is a huge bummer that it has come to this.
Title: Re: Has anyone actually received their physical boxed edition of Quest for Infamy?
Post by: Blackthorne on December 12, 2016, 06:33:46 PM
I have not sent yours out, Exo.  I have only sent out a few DVD case only and QFI Companion only packages recently.  I haven't, and won't, make any more promises about when I will send them out right now because I don't want to make any more unfufilled promises.  I had the best intentions when I said I would get things out, and it hasn't gone that way yet.  When I send them, I'll post about it.  But right now, they're delayed. 

I have many people I have packages to get to, and I will get to them, but it will be a little bit of time.  It'd be easy for me to freak out and get angry and write something terrible and stupid, but I know the onus is on me right now, and I'm upset that I haven't gotten packages out to important people I care about, either.  Like Kaldire - I'm sorry, man, I really am.  You'll get your stuff, it's just taking me time in between many things happening right now that I am reluctant to discuss. 

Exo, I'm sorry about the delays and missed promises.  Thanks for your support in the past - you've supported not only us but other Adventure Games as well, and that's important.  Hope you're well in the coming days.


Bt
Title: Re: Has anyone actually received their physical boxed edition of Quest for Infamy?
Post by: eXoScoriae on December 12, 2016, 09:50:45 PM
The sad thing is simply putting my crap in an envelope and sending it out would would solve the problem. However, even in light of the fact that you have put me in a position that I feel legal action is my only recourse, you still can't commit to such a simple action.

That is mind boggling.
Title: Re: Has anyone actually received their physical boxed edition of Quest for Infamy?
Post by: Blackthorne on December 12, 2016, 10:12:13 PM
I can't just put the box in an envelope; it'd get destroyed that way.  I had problems shipping some out in less than perfect containers, and I don't want to send you a destroyed box.  The DVDs, yes, go out in bubble mailers which IS simple, but you have a Big Box coming, which is more complex. Assembling these boxes and packing them is a time consuming and delicate process.  If you want your materials sent to you in a big flat envelope and you're willing to chance them being ruined, I'll send them like that - I can do that in five minutes.  If you want things sent nicely and properly, it's going to be a bit - I don't know how long, because I've learned NOT to promise anything.  You will get it, though. 

And, legal action?  If you want your money back, just ask.  The game has been completed and you've received your digital download, so you have that.  If you want your money back for the additional support, then we can work that out privately.  Otherwise, I maintain what I've said above - you'll have to wait a bit longer. 


Bt
Title: Re: Has anyone actually received their physical boxed edition of Quest for Infamy?
Post by: eXoScoriae on December 13, 2016, 09:16:39 AM
(http://cdn2.bigcommerce.com/server1800/cb4ba/products/370/images/1409/SMALL_FRB_01_main_900x695__57708.1371921131.1280.1280.jpg)

Since you don't seem to be aware of this, that is what you ship big boxes in. I have purchased hundreds of big box games from eBay in the past 15 years. I have never had a problem with one of them being crushed when they were shipped using a box such as that one. Amazingly, they are also free. You go to the post office and ask for a stack and they will give it to you.  This isn't rocket science. Your not the first person who ever had to send a big boxed game."

And if sending the big box *is* such a problem, as well as assembling them, then use a reinforced flat pack envelope and just send the box flat. I can't speak for everyone else, but I would have no problem folding the box myself if assembly is so time consuming.

You first raised concerns about the big boxes getting crushed this past spring. And that was fine. I was glad to see you were being careful in how you approached this. In what world though does it take another 8 or 9 months to figure out how to send a box in the mail? Your acting like finding a way to send these things is some huge mystery that remains unsolved. I mean seriously man, I've seen a lot of far out there excuses for kickstarters getting dragged on and on. But simply being unable to figure out how to ship something for months on end? That's an all time low.

At this point, I am going to stay on you until you actually follow through with your responsibility. You have made it clear that when people leave you alone, nothing happens. You apparently need someone sitting over your shoulder reminding you that you have an obligation to fulfill.
Title: Re: Has anyone actually received their physical boxed edition of Quest for Infamy?
Post by: DosboxLetsPlay on December 16, 2016, 01:54:42 PM
While @helmishgen (http://www.infamous-quests.com/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=269) brought out some good thoughts, you on the other hand @eXoScoriae (http://www.infamous-quests.com/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=221) are acting childish. I'm sorry to say this, but the way you write just screams "Waaaahh, why isn't MY box here yet?".

I do have had my doubts that will I ever receive my big box or no, but I also doubt that Steven would be saying these things and talking to us here, openly, if he was just leading us on & bulls***ing all the way. It just wouldn't make any sense.

On the matter of getting the boxes shipped, I'm more afraid that maybe my box will get stuck at the customs office without me being informed than Steven not shipping it.
Title: Re: Has anyone actually received their physical boxed edition of Quest for Infamy?
Post by: MusicallyInspired on December 16, 2016, 07:53:33 PM
More entitled nonsense going on in this thread I see. Good luck with your legal action, eXoScoriae. That won't get you anywhere.

It's good to see at least some people with half a brain who don't treat a single person like a giant corporation.
Title: Re: Has anyone actually received their physical boxed edition of Quest for Infamy?
Post by: Kaldire on December 17, 2016, 12:21:13 AM
we are alll mates !
sighs

love.. life is tooo short

steven is doing his beesstest
I knowith it.

offered the money back to him, no legal action needed.. friends... love..
tis xmas too  remember that..
shipping is NO FUN then.. i was hoping for it on my bday early dec, but as it hits later
well its prolly safer to wait to ship anything right now.. at least until jan.. imo

hugs to all ya'alls
HUGGGSSS
/me hugs everyone
Title: Re: Has anyone actually received their physical boxed edition of Quest for Infamy?
Post by: Chadly on December 17, 2016, 04:39:08 PM
    Ok, at this point some who post here are getting a bit nasty and personal.  Blackthorne is doing the best he can, if those of you who cant be understanding and patient, ask Bt for your money back period. He has said he will work things out with you privately as it should be.  Lets face it folks in 20 years this memorabilia will only matter to the small group who made QFI happened, as this adventure genre is but a fond memory for those who remember it.:) 

    Lets all try and remember its the holiday season, whatever your personal religion may be.  Chadly.
Title: Quest for Infamy physical copies.
Post by: antiqueapple on December 24, 2016, 09:34:28 PM
Can you please tell everyone who is still wanting for the physical copies for the 1st game when they will be shipped!  I paid over $300 3 years ago and have gotten nothing.
Title: Re: Quest for Infamy physical copies.
Post by: Kaldire on December 25, 2016, 01:37:14 AM
there is already a pretty decent thread aboot this matey!

never fear you arent alone on this one, but.. happy holidays mate'
hang in there, as the kitten posters doth say.

PS EDIT
the KF postcards from the edge semi documentary
mer streep sayith this

"instant gratification takes toooo long!"

hehe I love that line.

of course this doesnt apply here, just a fun thing I just noticed in the movie tonight. :)
Title: Re: Has anyone actually received their physical boxed edition of Quest for Infamy?
Post by: k0SH on December 25, 2016, 05:29:57 AM
First, I like Steven. A lot.

BUT..
Quote
Blackthorne is doing the best he can
..I sadly have to disagree.

He is not telling the truth for over a year now! And that sucks! Big time!

November 2015
"They will be sent out this year"

December 2015
"I'll be sending it out to you this week, so I can change the address."

March 2016
"Yes, I know - I'm still sending out packages"

May 2016
"'m packing more and sending out more this week.  I've got some extra swag to send out with them from PAX East as well. I'm making sure to pack your box well"

July 2016
"Your package will be going out tomorrow; I've taken extra care to make sure it's packaged up very well"

NO response to monthly messages - on a lot communication channels - since than!


Most the time he tells the same fairy tales:
"Some already shipped boxed got damaged"
-> no one ever saw a pic of a damaged box
-> it takes a year to find a strong box? I get parcels with games from all over the world every two weeks.
All come in standard shipping boxes. Sometimes with more, sometimes with less protective material.
None damaged so far.

"People who have gotten their items probably aren't checking this site any more, or the comments"
-> Sorry, but this is crap. People love to share. Especially collectors. So at least a few would have done. Only saw one posting a guide he received.

"When I said a "few" DVDs and companions, I didn't mean a couple - I mean close to 100"
-> Since a lot said wasn't true I simply don't buy it.
-> But hey - transparency would be appriciated:
Pls share a list of backer names with the date and items you've sended them.
You have sort of a db with the persons you already send stuff too, right?
So shouldn't be a big deal to share SOME info.
Plus how long did it take to send out the 100. A month? A year?
Just for the rest of us to do the math how long it will take till all are send out.
 
Conclusion:
My guess is that there is sadly no money to a) produce all items and / or b) to send all items.
Steven already denied this - but hey, he told me often he has send my stuff so..
If both points are an issue at all and it's "just time issues" I would create backers access to a forum where I would share the names I send out parcels to.
There is NO transparency at all - only the same stories for over a year.

I simply don't buy them anylonger - this all stinks a lot to me.
Man! Not cool!
Title: Re: Has anyone actually received their physical boxed edition of Quest for Infamy?
Post by: k0SH on December 25, 2016, 05:41:10 AM
Btw, MusicallyInspired,
Quote
Paskarl especially is driving me completely nuts with his entitled attitude and unrealistic expectations while blasting them on different Facebook groups about it.

It's me, Paskarl. Hi ;-)

So... unrealistic expectaition, huh?
Interesting! It wasn't me saying a couple of times "send out today/ next week".
So MY expectations are based on what someone else did say and promise.
I didn't forced Steven to say so - he did that on his own.
And he told me a year ago that it will be send. A YEAR ago!
So pls explain it to me, what is unrealistic about it?
Sorry, but if I would do that repeatingly at work I wouldn't work there for long I guess.

We can talk about the attitude part - I agree that this is always a thing to discuss.
I simply don't like to get told a lie. And this is, in my eyes, a big one.
PS. I deleted all FB posts after I blew off some steam - 'cause I was REALLY pissed that time.
I still am but already accepted a bit that I will most likely not receive the items at all.


Title: Re: Has anyone actually received their physical boxed edition of Quest for Infamy?
Post by: Kaldire on December 25, 2016, 05:11:20 PM
sup sup kosh mate

havent heard from ye in a long time,
you can always hit me up, hope you have my proper email,ty for the past stuffs! you still are aces in my book of collector friends

ty again mate.
Title: Re: Has anyone actually received their physical boxed edition of Quest for Infamy?
Post by: eXoScoriae on January 03, 2017, 09:09:42 AM
You can call me childish or entitled all you want, it doesn't debase or change the point I made.

That timeline speaks for itself, and defending it at this point simply makes you look silly.

I would be curious to know how many years of BT claiming he has everything in his living room and just doesn't know how to ship it before one can be legitimately upset? Please tell me how much longer Steven can claim he doesn't know how to ship a box before anyone who has been to the post office once in their life is allowed to raise an eyebrow. Tell me how many updates he is allowed to make claiming he is sending things out (with zero evidence or corroborative support from *anyone* who has received something) before a person is allowed to get frustrated without it being childish. Is it 4 updates? 5? 6? 10? Please, tell me, because it really seems to me that people like Brandon are circle jerking and defending Steven no matter what he says or does. It's less a matter of me, or anyone else, acting childish and/or entitled, and more a matter of Brandon saying, "Hey, leave my buddy alone. Ignore that fact he has repeatedly broken promises to you and has your money".

How entitled are you Brandon, to think that people who put hundreds of bucks down on this *don't* have a right to be upset? You're living in a hypocritical bubble.

Speaking of which, how many of you white knights did he personally promise to have their stuff shipped out by now? I can answer that. Zero. I on the other hand actually do fall into that category. So is it entitled of me to expect something that Steven specifically said would be in the mail by a certain Friday last October? Excuse me, you seem to have confused the world "entitled" for "believing what someone said".

And some of you have the audacity to claim he is trying the best that he can? If that's true, then it's also incredibly sad. Have you ever stopped to consider that?

To address a few other thoughts here:
1. Money was offered back to me: Yes, he did offer a refund, however we never discussed the details. Why? Because, like you, I cared enough about this project to put money into it. Like you, I ultimately hope to have a boxed copy of this game sitting on my shelf. I wouldn't have waited around this long or been this vocal about it had it not been what I wanted in the first place. It's also a bit hard to swallow walking away at this point when, apparently, my stuff is just sitting right there on his floor. But, then again, that requires me believing that my stuff is actually sitting there and that BT's lack of knowledge of a flat rate mailing box is the only thing stopping it from arriving. On the other hand, my enthusiasm for the project is severely waning at this point. So I'm not sure if having a boxed copy on my shelf at some point will be a victory or simply a reminder of all the douchery.

2. Legal Action: Money was *not* being offered to me at the time I brought this up. So don't try to restate the narrative. At the time I mentioned legal action I, like all of you, had parted with my money years ago and had nothing to show for it besides a steam key that I could have bought for a few bucks. It's only because I brought up legal action that my money was offered back to me. Legal action is incredibly cheap when you have access to a lawyer, so it wouldn't put me out anything. What it would do it put BT in a situation where he has to respond or face a default judgement, and by responding he would need a lawyer himself unless he actually tried to file all the required documentation himself. Do I want to deal with all that and do that to BT? No. Am I sick of being strung along with false promises? Hell yes I am. So I had 2 options. Continue sitting around waiting for BT to figure out something incredibly simple and basic, such as how to ship a boxed game, or consider taking action. I considered action, and in return it got me an offer of a refund. Which I am still considering.

The defenders keep saying Steven is doing his best. As I said earlier, if that can actually be said in earnest, then it is impossibly sad. It frankly means that Steven is a failure at this point. There is no stretch of the definition of success that can describe this situation, unless you take the extremely cynical road and assume success means taking everyone's money, producing a game, and then shutting the company down and not shipping out the rest. We all know that wasn't the intention however, and I also know Steven didn't set out to take people's money. I am confident his original intentions were good.

On the other hand, unlike many of you, Steven has blatantly lied to me. So if you think it's childish for me to call him out on that, then I've got something much more childish I suggest you go and do.

I'd also like to point out that I had dropped several hundred on not only a big box for this game, but also for his other two. I imagine that I can leave my KS pledge to my children in my will, and if Order of the Thorne ever actually ships, it can go to them or their children. It sure as hell won't ship in my lifetime. Hah.
Title: Re: Has anyone actually received their physical boxed edition of Quest for Infamy?
Post by: eXoScoriae on January 03, 2017, 12:04:59 PM
Ok, I've been thinking on it and I'll take my money back @Blackthorne (http://www.infamous-quests.com/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=2) . It's better than logging into this site every week or so and dealing with folks who take valid concerns and frustrations and simply try and write them off as entitlement.

I pledged $120 to the QfI KS. I did not receive anything above and beyond the $10 tier. No t-shirt or big box or any of that. So that leaves $110 of money due back to me from that kickstarter.

I pledged $220 to the second kickstarter.  $120 of that was intended to be for the big box  + slim case addon. So that $120 is definitely due back to me.

That brings my total to $230 due back to me, after receiving my $10 QfI key and $100 for shenanigans such as the "Isle of the Honored" in OotT, which I'm not sure if I'm even there or not. Hell, I'm not even asking for my money back for the third game which may not ever even release.

It's pretty sad when an "associate producer" of the game has to ask for his money back. It's even sadder when the people behind it allow it to come to this in the first place. All, if BT is to be believed, because it was too hard to find a box.

Title: Re: Has anyone actually received their physical boxed edition of Quest for Infamy?
Post by: Kaldire on January 03, 2017, 08:02:23 PM
:(

crosses fingers n toes for ye and us all
and i dont think steven thinks this was a success in terms of shipping.  he has stated that on many posts
its HELL to box up stuff
trust that..
ttg's again took sometimes 6 months to pack just 1 game and that was with a team of playtesters licking envelopes !
bt has well maybe his baby to help lick stuff.. lol

ahem

anyway, here is hoping it gets going, and best of luck to ye mate' im truly sorry this ended up so far out mate. I still have the faith though.
not only that id never ask for a refund, hell im in the credits of the game, twice! whoot
might not be what I paid for but, tis a' very nice.

gl bt! and.. urmm happy new year to ye' and your family my good chap
Title: Re: Has anyone actually received their physical boxed edition of Quest for Infamy?
Post by: eXoScoriae on January 04, 2017, 11:51:06 AM
You bring a very positive and supportive spirit to this forum @Kaldire (http://www.infamous-quests.com/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=477). It is appreciated.
Title: Re: Has anyone actually received their physical boxed edition of Quest for Infamy?
Post by: MusicallyInspired on January 04, 2017, 07:56:47 PM
I had a very very long response to each of your points, but instead I decided to just leave it at these two points.

You jumped to "legal action" before Steve had a chance to offer a refund. Naturally he responded with a refund because that's supposed to be the first step anyway. You chose to escalate it to legal action first (against an individual, mind you, whose personal finances are on the line) just to get your precious box. You could have requested a refund first. That was your move.

Your whole attitude is not reminiscent of the Kickstarter spirit. Kickstarter is not a store where you buy products. It's a platform where you can support people to make their plans, visions, and dreams come true. They delivered a game, you have it, and you're squabbling about rewards. Their campaign was a success. They finished what they set out to do. It did not fail. You didn't pay for a box, you pledged a higher amount to help production costs for the creation of a game which granted you access to a free box as a reward for helping them make the game. If you really care more about that box and your money than this man doing his best (or suffering depression if he is indeed over his head and just putting it off) then you aren't the kind of person that should be backing Kickstarter projects because these things happen all the time. Most people are understanding of who they choose to back (especially if the project was completed which it absolutely was). You obviously are not. What Steve needs is support not constant hounding and badgering. If you can't understand that concept of human decency or see how it's relevant and still think you should be treating this whole ordeal like a customer demanding what their owed from a large company (who can afford the loss a lot more than one individual and his family's personal finances), then a refund is best for you. You should leave the realm of crowd-funding and never look back.

Enjoy.
Title: Re: Has anyone actually received their physical boxed edition of Quest for Infamy?
Post by: eXoScoriae on January 05, 2017, 10:08:24 AM
Bullshit Brandon.

I had many discussions with Steven over on the KS system, both in comments and in PM before I ever said anything about legal action.  Legal action came up 3 months after he promised to send mine out specifically and 1 year after he said he was sending them out.

I was plenty patient with him.

And I really don't care what you think the spirit of kickstarter is. Go preach at your sunday school if you want to tell others what to believe. Let me explain to you the facts about kickstarter, and not your personal little myth you've created for yourself.

I supported Steven and Co. to produce a game, and in return for my support IQ owes me an end product.

See those tiers with promised rewards? Those are not "maybe if the stars line up you'll get this" suggestions.

Every single legal action taken against a KS creator who hasn't delivered on the rewards has succeeded. So regardless of what you *think* the spirit of kickstarter is, it is a legal contract with an obligation to follow through.

Now, I don't know how many Kickstarters you supported, but I supported over a 100. And across all those kickstarters I put up around 20k of my own money. A good 2k of that is currently tied up with crap like this. Originally I had around 5k in unfulfilled items. It was only because I made it clear to the creators that they owed me, that I got around 3k of that back. Most of those people never actually finished anything. Nor did they refund everyone. They only refunded the few who made it clear they weren't leaving without one (Oh Neal Stephenson, I'm looking at you particularly hard right now).

That 2k is things that either never delivered or stalled out, or whatever.

If I had your attitude, I'd be out about 5k right now. Instead, I'm only out about 2k right now. Some of that is fine and doesn't bother me.  Either I got enough out of the project to feel my money was worth it, or the guys involved did enough with the money that I felt it went to a good cause.

Boxes sitting on someone's living room floor for nearly 18 months doesn't fall into one of my categories of "oh well, that was well spent".

If I felt Steven was actually working in good faith to get things shipped out, I wouldn't be concerned. As long as someone is trying, I will be patient. I have kickstarters much older than this one where the game isn't even done yet. I have others, such as armikrog, where the box is even more over due than this one. But the difference is, those guys aren't claiming the box is sitting on their living room floor, but they don't have the time to ship it. The difference is, those guys are active on the boards and immediately respond to PMs.

BT stopped responding to me back around October. I tried as few more times, left a few more messages on the boards over there, and finally had to come over here to get a response. BT isn't trying. He isn't even responding. There is NO VALID EXCUSE for having all the products at his home, as he claims, and being unable to send them out. Either he is misleading people, and he does not have the product\ran out of money\etc... or he is one of the laziest people I've ever known.

I will be encouraging all other folks over at the KS who are tired of this to encourage refunds as well at this point.

And as far as you go Brandon, I really don't give a shit what you think.  You've made it extremely clear you don't know the full story between BT and I, so do yourself a favor and go find a race you actually have a horse in. You aren't doing Steven any favors acting like such a little prick here on the boards. All your doing is pissing off the people who are already frustrated even more. Steven can thank you personally for me requesting a refund. Being patient while Steven tries to figure things out is one thing. Dealing with punks like you? Nope. I don't need that.
Title: Re: Has anyone actually received their physical boxed edition of Quest for Infamy?
Post by: DosboxLetsPlay on January 05, 2017, 11:22:36 AM
eXoScoriae tapped 4 mana to cast the spell "Wall of Text".

In all seriousness though, dude, jesus christ, you rant more than a russian troll. I think it's quite obvious that the majority of what you've said here can be summed up with the words "impatient brat".

Yes, if there was an agreement between you and Steven that he would ship your box before/on a certain date and he hasn't done that then it is bad play on his part. I won't repeat what MusicallyInspired said, but he IS one man and NOT a big company, you seem to have forgotten that while you went on your rampage on him.

It seems that your main issues here is that a) he did not ship your box at the time that was promised and b) as I understand it, you think that the boxes do not even exist, is that it?

I believe that if a) is what really happened, then your box would already be on the priority shipping when Steven finds the time to deal with that, but I think that b) is bothering you equally with a).

The boxes ARE there, if you had followed this whole ordeal from the start, you would've seen the updates that he has posted with pictures where he has stacks upon stacks of boxes in his (living?)room.

As for the shipping, it is pretty clear that this is coming from his own expenses. The rules of Kickstarter are vague in that sense, because Infamous Quests has delivered the main goal of what was expected from the agreement on Kickstarter, meaning that Steven could've come up with LOADS of excuses as to why the physical rewards would not be fulfilled completely (and offer refunds to lawyered-up-the-wazoo people like you), but he has told that he will get the boxes shipped.

Seriously though, why the fuck would he still be saying, after over a year of delays, that he will ship the boxes if he actually doesn't plan to? Answer me this question @eXoScoriae (http://www.infamous-quests.com/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=221)
Title: Re: Has anyone actually received their physical boxed edition of Quest for Infamy?
Post by: eXoScoriae on January 05, 2017, 12:08:58 PM
I love how criticisms of the length of my post are supposed to somehow undermine the content. Point out any specific part of my post where I am wrong. Please. What I have primarily done here is create a timeline to show just how long this has dragged on for, because some folks here have a very warped definition of "trying the best that he can".

So if your allergic to words, prepare for a breakout.

First, I am not the one who doesn't think he has boxes. I simply think he has lied about sending 3 per week as he has claimed multiple times. They would almost all be delivered by now had he been sending out 3 per week since he first said he was doing that.

To answer your question @DosboxLetsPlay (http://www.infamous-quests.com/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=562) , why would he still be promising to send them, it happens all the time on dead kickstarters.

KS creators will continue to make promises, sometimes for years, before finally just going silent. In that time, more and more people from the KS give up and move on.

The longer he drags it out, the less pissed off people there are at the finish line. But I doubt that is the case here.

My guess is he honestly thinks he will get around to sending things out, but never does. Every time he pops in with an update I think he fully intends to jump on board and get things moving. And instead sends like 2 or 3 games out and goes back to real life and forgets about this for several months. What I know to be true is that he has not been sending out as many games as he has claimed to. What I know to be true is that flat rate shipping boxes from the USPS are free, will fit a big box game and protect it, and are less than the amount of money we all tagged on to our pledges to cover shipping. What I know to be true is that he promised mine would go out, and then waited nearly 2 months to show up and give no good reason and no new estimate.

Here is the exchange from the KS comments:

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Helmishgen on October 27
Steven, a suggestion if I may. Ship to eXo Scoriae or Paskarl or myself, we will then post here that we have received and that should, at the very least, let those who look for info here know that packages are in fact going out. I know there are only us vocal few who are still posting here but the fact that no one has posted stating they have received their items is concerning.

Steven "Blackthorne" Alexander 3-time creator on October 27
Right, probably because they aren't checking back here - I'll make sure to send your packages out next. I'm sending out some tomorrow (Friday) and I will specifically send your packages. I'll send you guys receipts and pics via PM tomorrow afternoon.
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Helmishgen waited about 2 weeks before saying anything, even though he was promised receipts and pics via PM the very next day.

Paskarl waited 3 weeks before confirming he also had not received anything.

I waited 6 weeks before chiming in to confirm I had received nothing. I waited, because maybe he forgot the pics or the PM, but had sent the box. 6 weeks was long enough to determine that had not happened.

At any time in that 6 weeks did Steven drop in and say, "Sorry guys, I got busy. Here is a realistic estimate as to when I can get it out..."? No.

He didn't show up until I PM'd him with the words "legal action". Then suddenly we get an update. And what did that update say? I won't promise you when I can send your items, because I have no idea when, and I don't want that promise held against me. Unfortunately, it was already too late for that. The best thing he could have done there was to just fulfill the promise late, and get it off his plate. Not because "it's mine and I need it now", but because he specifically called me out as one of the three people he was going to send to. I didn't ask for that, he brought it up. But I'm entitled or a troll for asking him to hold to his word? Yea right.

Ultimately though, none of the apologists here are going to change their mind about anything. People like Brandon give money away and then shrug their shoulders and expect everyone else to do the same if things don't turn out. And then try to make personal comments about my income and how poor I must be to care about a few hundred bucks (you are such a good little Christian Brandon).

I'm not here to convince brandon, or dosboxletsplay, or anyone else as to if I am right or not. I'm here because Steven stopped replying over on the KS.
Title: Re: Has anyone actually received their physical boxed edition of Quest for Infamy?
Post by: DosboxLetsPlay on January 05, 2017, 01:05:14 PM
@eXoScoriae (http://www.infamous-quests.com/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=221) did you actually try to contact him during those weeks? I mean if he promised to send the pics & such the very next day and failed to do so, you can assume that he is 1) busy and/or 2) forgot about it. Again, if you didn't (it's unclear from your last post), then you should've contacted him the next week. This could be a bit off-topic, but making promises for friday afternoons should not be taken very seriously. :D

I believe that he might've sent 3 boxes per week at the start, but then it slowed down/stopped due to other stuff coming in his life.

As for your answer to my question, you could be right, I do not have backed a lot on Kickstarter and I have read plenty of stories how kickstarter creators rip off people cruelly, but this is not a dead Kickstarter. They gave a full, long, proper game which I and many others thoroughly enjoyed, so I don't think you can categorize this project with the rest in that "graveyard".

IF he has all the necessary funds + time to send out the boxes, then the only argument you could make is that he is lazy and just won't bother with it, but I very much doubt that that is the case here. He has nothing else to do with these boxes. If he tried to rip us off and sell these boxes to someone else, people would find out about it.

This is just a matter of time and patience, and while I do truly understand that it sucks for you to getting a promise which has not been fulfilled, I think (at least I hope) in good time, we will all receive our boxes and other physical rewards that have not yet been shipped.
Title: Re: Has anyone actually received their physical boxed edition of Quest for Infamy?
Post by: eXoScoriae on January 06, 2017, 10:15:36 AM
@eXoScoriae ([url]http://www.infamous-quests.com/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=221[/url]) did you actually try to contact him during those weeks? I mean if he promised to send the pics & such the very next day and failed to do so, you can assume that he is 1) busy and/or 2) forgot about it. Again, if you didn't (it's unclear from your last post), then you should've contacted him the next week. This could be a bit off-topic, but making promises for friday afternoons should not be taken very seriously. :D


No, I left him alone. Others (the other two who were promised this), had both contacted him during this time. I was being patient and giving him time, rather than harassing him every week.

Besides, contacting him the next week (like the other guy did) wouldn't have helped, because he simply stopped responding to everyone on the KS boards (both in the comments and personal messages). Steven stopped responding to the few PM's I sent him over at KS months ago. And no, I wasn't being a dick at that point.

Now we are saying that we shouldn't take promises for Friday afternoon seriously? Christ, I hope you are joking, because the level of excuses around here is at an all time low.

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I believe that he might've sent 3 boxes per week at the start, but then it slowed down/stopped due to other stuff coming in his life.


Well, that goes directly against what he has said, which counts as another lie. Anytime he has been questioned on the kickstarter about the shipping schedule he has sworn up and down that he is still sending 3 per week. As I said several messages ago, based on when he first claimed this combined with the number of backers who have physical rewards and the time that has passed, if he had actually been sending out 3 per week, he would almost be done by now. So the math simply doesn't add up.

I'll try and be clear here about this, because the race to hurl insults at anyone who shows up in this thread seems to bury the message. I'm not mad that I don't have my boxed copy in my hands. I understand delays. Go to any other KS that I'm waiting for items on, and you will not see long posts from me criticizing the process or requesting a refund.

At most you will find posts from me asking for an update from the creators if it has been several months with no word.

I understand there are delays. I understand family happens. I understand people get sick, or hell, in some cases there have been projects I backed where a key team member has died. Sometimes money runs out. Sometimes key people leave the team and take the knowledge and or money with them.

In this case however, going strictly by what Steven has said in project updates, and leaving out all this conjecture and guesswork that is so prevalent with the excuses on this board, then none of the above are really the problem.

If I assume everything Steven has said to be the truth, then all of the physical rewards are sitting on his floor. I am also to believe he has been sending out 3 a week, as he continually claims to be doing this even when people claim he hasn't been. I am to believe he sent one or two big boxes out and they arrived damaged, and this caused him to stop sending big boxes out as he was afraid of more getting damaged. Users (including myself), have pointed out that he could send the box flat and allow the recipient to assemble the box or posted the types of boxes that he could use to protect a fully assembled item. He has not responded to any of these suggestions to explain why they would not work.

For that matter, he never directly addresses anything. All he does is consistently maintain the stance that he *is* still shipping, and it will just be some time. That is essentially a non response. It doesn't tell anyone anything. There is zero evidence that anything has been shipped, let alone the 100's of items that would have gone out by now at the rate of 3 per week.

I'm frustrated with this wall. I'm frustrated with promises to people (both for myself and the two others) to send something out and then total waffle on it and give no good reason and no effort to make up for it. I'm frustrated with the constant excuses. We all have down times. We all experience loss. Many of us have children. Most of us have full time jobs. And I am more than willing to tell someone like Steven to take the time to enjoy or grieve over these things. Take time to get healthy when you are sick. Take time to enjoy your children. Take time to mourn your grandfather. What I;'m seeing however is *all* of the time going to this. And while that would be fine for most people, if you have a financial obligation, then you have to find time for it.

I myself have sunken over 1,500 hours in the past 5-6 years on my work for preserving and making older PC games (DOS / Win3x) playable. I have had a full time job that entire time. I have a wife. I have had two children born in that time (I remember working on the cover art for one of my collections while waiting in the hospital for my son). I have been incredibly sick during that time. I've been hospitalized and had multiple back surgeries. I've had pneumonia.

But I've still gotten my projects done.

And guess what? I don't even get paid for them. Nobody gave me over $50,000 and said, "Hey, get a team together and get this out by X date". It was all volunteer work. I could have walked away at any time and I wouldn't have owed a single person anything. But I didn't. Because I started that project and I decided to finish that project.

So if Steven wants to be upfront and honest with the reasons for the delays, then I am willing to give him time and even support him through whatever it is that is causing the problem. But as it stands. He has lied about a promised ship date and he has lied about sending 3 per week. Once a content creator is no longer honest with me, I loose my patience and no longer want to be involved.

So he can either give me my money back or he can start being honest and quit the bullshit.
Title: Re: Has anyone actually received their physical boxed edition of Quest for Infamy?
Post by: helmishgen on January 06, 2017, 03:58:51 PM
Ultimately, it behooves BT more than anyone to get it done.  No more product sitting in his house, no more stressing over it, and no more people busting his chops.  Seems like a wise course of action to me.
Title: Re: Has anyone actually received their physical boxed edition of Quest for Infamy?
Post by: k0SH on January 06, 2017, 08:51:19 PM
BT - You have sort of a db with the persons you already send stuff too, right?
So it shouldn't be a big deal to share a list of backer names with the date and items you've send them.


You can post an update on a weekly base.
Takes you like 10 mins or less to post 3-5 more names plus items you've shipped.
Just backer names shouldn't be a big privacy issue or so too.

If you're doing 3 a week - as you've said - it takes 33 weeks to send 100 packages.
Close to 200 packes per year.
Interesting that 15 month after your 'promise yours will be next' nothing arrived.
And I still haven't seen a single (!) pic of someone sharing the box he received!!

+1 to what eXoScoriae said.

This is so not cool.


PS. "I had one backer report that his box arrived in bad condition, so I'm trying a new kind of cardboard box and filler to send the stuff"
Any status update here? Your said that for the first time over a year (!) ago.
Found a nice box and already sending boxed copies?

Title: Re: Has anyone actually received their physical boxed edition of Quest for Infamy?
Post by: eXoScoriae on January 09, 2017, 10:45:49 AM
What is really sad is at this point Steven has decided to just completely ignore this thread.

He was active on the boards yesterday, yet hasn't responded either here or to the PM I sent him.

He claims " am really not that hard to get ahold of if you need to communicate with me.", and yet here we are, on his own website, and he hasn't made a post since December 28th.

He hasn't address this thread since December 13th, nearly a month ago.
Title: Re: Has anyone actually received their physical boxed edition of Quest for Infamy?
Post by: DosboxLetsPlay on January 09, 2017, 04:05:47 PM
@eXoScoriae (http://www.infamous-quests.com/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=221) Sorry, have been quite busy recently so I haven't had time to reply.

Anyhow, I'll try to keep it short this time:

I don't want to reply with what I have said already, so it'll just be new stuff.

Yeah, well the friday thing IS more of a joke, but there's some truth to that as well. :D

As to the matter of delays and updates, you WOULD get a bigger picture if you followed him on social media channels like FB and twitter, but I understand that one should not be expected to do that to get new info when there's a forum created by the company, ready to use.

And guess what? I don't even get paid for them. Nobody gave me over $50,000 and said, "Hey, get a team together and get this out by X date". It was all volunteer work. I could have walked away at any time and I wouldn't have owed a single person anything. But I didn't. Because I started that project and I decided to finish that project.


Okay, that right there is a horses*** argument. Keep these things in mind:

1) They created a Kickstarter to make a game. THAT is how they got the money and they have a game to show for it.
2) QFI was not voluntary work in that sense (although there were volunteers involved) - they couldn't have taken the money and just walk away with it.
3) I assume you did not even ask for money and it was a project you decided to take on yourself, knowing that you won't get paid for the worked hours, so your work can't really be compared to theirs in that sense?
4) The money from that kickstarter is long gone, Steven does the shipping from personal funds.
Title: Re: Has anyone actually received their physical boxed edition of Quest for Infamy?
Post by: Kaldire on January 09, 2017, 08:11:09 PM
well also imo
posting on this thread is just asking to set himself up
nothing he say can be right at this point to some,
others might not mind or as much like me etc...

but you forgot personal life..
family, baby, the misses, health, all could and might be a factor.

not trying to gild the lily but, I wouldnt post here just knowing no matter what I posted would be a setup for more flames or upset, its best at this point, imo to avoid (not ignore) threads like this. (maybe not pms but thats why i mention personal life and issues)

me I just hope he is ok, and his family too.. biggest fear here is losing loved ones or them getting ill.
would I be posting   "my kid is in the hosptial with some illness" when on a thread like this it might just seem like another excuse?
nope

anyway no way about it, some stuff shoulda shipped, I still await. with hope.
and truly hope all is ok.

Title: Re: Has anyone actually received their physical boxed edition of Quest for Infamy?
Post by: eXoScoriae on January 11, 2017, 09:54:37 AM
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Okay, that right there is a horses*** argument

Nope, my example was showing that even when I didn't owe something to anybody and I was dealing with issues like health, having children, death in the family, etc... I still finished things up.

So I know that if I had actually owed it to someone to get something to them, I would have had made that my priority.

The fact is, I had less on the line and still came through with a huge project. He has more on the line and less he has to actually (ship some boxes).

Lets not forget his second kickstarter is unresolved as well. It promised 2 games. There is only one out. So in reality, this is about more than just some boxes being shipped. It includes an unfinished game as well.

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but you forgot personal life..
family, baby, the misses, health, all could and might be a factor.

Nope, I haven't forgotten. As a matter of fact, I just recently wrote:
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I understand there are delays. I understand family happens. I understand people get sick, or hell, in some cases there have been projects I backed where a key team member has died. Sometimes money runs out. Sometimes key people leave the team and take the knowledge and or money with them.

In this case however, going strictly by what Steven has said in project updates, and leaving out all this conjecture and guesswork that is so prevalent with the excuses on this board, then none of the above are really the problem.

Let me be very clear. In my PM to Steven I expressed concern that he might be battling depression.
He lost a grandfather
He had a child (this does cause depression in some people, especially if they think they aren't up to the task for whatever reason)
His company wasn't profitable enough and had to fold
According to people here, the KS money is gone and he is still on the hook to send things out.
etc...

I ultimately said he could follow through with his offer to refund me and I'll just go away, or I offered to help him. If money is the issue, I would happily send $20 to cover my stuff and then help him look into raising a second set of funds to get everyone else's out. Or, if I knew how much still needed to be shipped and how much he needed to get it all out, I might even consider loaning the money myself and working out some kind of slow repayment plan over time (totally spitballing here). If I lived close enough, I'd help him assemble the damn boxes and get everything packed, so at least the only step left would be to ship them.

The point is, I offered to help. But to do so, I have to know the real problem. According to him, he just doesn't have time to do more than a few a week. I've made it clear that I don't believe he is even doing a few a week. And even the people who defend him here have all said that they think money is a big part of it. It can't be as simple as just being an inability to find a safe way to send the boxes. We *all* know that is total bullshit, even the super apologists.

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posting on this thread is just asking to set himself up

Steven has opted to not respond to that PM. He has neither taken me up on my offer to help or his offer to refund me.  At this point he is blowing me off after offering that refund. So that marks two times he has directly lied to me.

Title: Re: Has anyone actually received their physical boxed edition of Quest for Infamy?
Post by: Kaldire on January 11, 2017, 05:42:13 PM
I also thought to ask if extra money for shipping would help things along, but ive never asked,
if bt reads this

bt mate if thats an option that would help, let us knowith.

hugzzz
Title: Re: Has anyone actually received their physical boxed edition of Quest for Infamy?
Post by: k0SH on January 18, 2017, 02:57:00 PM
Beginning of September BT (not you, not me, BT!) said in this discussion thread: “I only get to a few a day“.
It's close to end of January right now, right?
So.. doing the math.. (and reduce it to just three a week):
20 weeks! 3 packages! 60 packages!!
Because of global shipping, long distance, a lot still on the way, bla bla, reduce it to 30!
30 deliveries since September! I think this is progress! And it's awesome!
Sadly, still no new sign of any single delivery since!
Of course, the receivers are so full of joy that he/ she didn't share that moment.
Seriously? I mean, s e r i o u s l y? We aren't 10 years old anymore, are we?

But my main point is the following.
Obviously, we are two groups of people:


“The believer”

Still say the delay is maybe not cool but ok; BT will handle all and get things done.
Maybe this year – maybe in five – who knows. **

“The doubters”
Had enough of all the “next week”-promises because - at least it seems the way – no actions followed.

Facts:
The long and endless discussions won't strengthen or weaken each groups points.
Right now we go in circles and will continue going in circles the next five pages of discussions.
Only thing that changes is the tone. It will get more and more aggressive.
That, as ONE group with the same goal, doesn't help us at all.

Solution:
The missing puzzle piece is BT.
He is the only one who really knows what's going on.
He is the only one who really can weaken / strengthen arguments.
How? Simply by action!


Right now I would say he's weakening it because he don't take a firm stand.
“The believers” can argue that he has a private life, a kid, things to take care of.
As a result he don't checks the forum every day.
I agree and disagree.
If he is able to he wants to clear this up and get things done.
If he's doing it – he should invest a very little time to share that progress with us.
Updates are important 'cause they lead to transparency.
And hey, I want that he has a great life and enjoys every possible moment with his wife and kid and so.
And you know what, he IS sharing THAT on Facebook very frequently.
So he HAS time for taking pictures, sharing it with his fb-friends, and even adds a few sentences every time.
Is it so hard to use one of the channels – kickstarter board, kickstarter updates, his own forum – to communicate?
 
I already made a few constructive suggestions: link (http://www.infamous-quests.com/forum/index.php?topic=2039.msg30465#msg30465)
Easy to implement plus super effective.
And hey, if I would be BT, the next 3-10 packages would be for all of us of because: easiest way to “shut down” people is by making them happy :-)

So please, BT, I'm tired of the discussions here, any update for your believers or doubters would be heavily appreciated by both groups :-)

Big thanks in advance.



** PS. Doing the math again; if he really sends out three packages a week how long will it take till all MUST HAVE received their items? I mean it's not 10,000 packages we're talking about, right? Wouldn't it be really odd AFTER THAT TIMEFRAME to still getting the same story told? ;-)
Title: Re: Has anyone actually received their physical boxed edition of Quest for Infamy?
Post by: eXoScoriae on January 25, 2017, 09:03:18 AM
Might as well scream into a well for all the good it does anyone.

BT claimed over on the KS page that he wasn't hard to find, and how easy it is to get a hold of him. Yet when we post on his actual forums, what sort of response do we get? Nothing.

So line up Brandon and anyone else who wants to make excuses. I'd love to hear your rational as to why BT has been MIA for over 3 weeks, going on a month at this point. Tell us how hard his life is that responding to any of this is just totally out of the question. Explain what he *really* meant when he told us how easy he was to get a hold of.

Did he promise that on a Friday? Because I know we have already established that things he promises on a Friday don't actually have any meaning (one of the absolute most fucking ridiculous things I've ever read in defense of someone else).

Go ahead and tell me what he really meant when he offered me a refund. Or what he really meant when he said swore he was sending out 3 packages a week.

This is pathetic.

Hey BT. I've been patient long enough. You threw a little fit when I threatened legal action, about how I didn't give you a chance. Well, you've had your chance. You have chosen to ignore the PM I sent you. You have ignored this thread. You have ignored the kickstarter comment section.

So, to be clear here, you owe many of us physical rewards for the first game. You owe many of us a third game. And you owe many of us physical rewards for the second and third game. Just wanted to make it clear this isn't about one guy bitching about where his box is.
Title: Re: Has anyone actually received their physical boxed edition of Quest for Infamy?
Post by: DosboxLetsPlay on January 25, 2017, 09:33:18 AM

Did he promise that on a Friday? Because I know we have already established that things he promises on a Friday don't actually have any meaning (one of the absolute most fucking ridiculous things I've ever read in defense of someone else).

Haha dude, you took that waaay too seriously.  ;D 'Twas meant as a joke (but thanks for making me giggle :D ).

Title: Re: Has anyone actually received their physical boxed edition of Quest for Infamy?
Post by: Kaldire on January 26, 2017, 11:25:51 AM
at this point im kinda hoping he is ok.

bit worried bout him, bt that is.

dont give up the fight mate, must seem like the world is caving in.
here to is bad, been in and out of hosptital with meniere's disease..its ripping me apart.

hugz and hopes

Title: Re: Has anyone actually received their physical boxed edition of Quest for Infamy?
Post by: eXoScoriae on January 27, 2017, 12:25:27 PM
K0sh suggested above that BT is pretty consistent on posting to his facebook. I don't care to check myself as I'm not out to stalk the guy, but that would suggest he is simply ignoring this situation and that his life goes on as usual.
Title: Re: Has anyone actually received their physical boxed edition of Quest for Infamy?
Post by: Kaldire on January 27, 2017, 06:20:54 PM
well at least that means he is alive, thats a plus
was worried bout him

I dont have nor use FB, so.

I wouldnt have noticed, but pms to bt just asking how he even is go without reply.
so I was getting worried bout' him

Title: Re: Has anyone actually received their physical boxed edition of Quest for Infamy?
Post by: DosboxLetsPlay on January 27, 2017, 09:09:46 PM
@eXoScoriae (http://www.infamous-quests.com/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=221)

I don't think it gets labelled as "stalking" when you have unfinished business with a person and wonder how he/she is doing.

@Kaldire (http://www.infamous-quests.com/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=477)

Woah, this is getting a bit dark. I can assure you that, unless if robots have taken hold of his social media accounts, he is alive. :D
Title: Re: Has anyone actually received their physical boxed edition of Quest for Infamy?
Post by: eXoScoriae on January 30, 2017, 09:39:11 AM
I'll leave it to others to determine his facebook status. The simple fact is he ought to be active on his own bloody forums.
Title: Re: Has anyone actually received their physical boxed edition of Quest for Infamy?
Post by: k0SH on February 01, 2017, 04:01:45 PM
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I don't care to check myself as I'm not out to stalk the guy
We're friends on FB.
So he shows up in my timeline at least every 2 days.

Someone asked at the SIERRA GAMERS fb group who else is excited about the Order of the Thorne sequel.
15 hours ago - it took Steven only 7 hours to reply:
"Yep! We are currently at work on Pt II of Order of the Thorne, called "Fortress of Fire". We're going to be releasing that and a QFI Prequel, Roehm to Ruin, this year. After that, things are unclear. It's hard to be a full-time adventure game developer, because as much as we love it, they don't sell enough copies to sustain a business."

So yeah - he is alive and fine ;-)
Why he is not able to reply to his own forum?
Again, only he will know.
I know for sure he has some good reasons for that.
But again, I stopped believing any.

But hey, we should be all glad!
He's not wasting time here - he is sending packages, right??
(who finds the irony can keep it!!)

Title: Re: Has anyone actually received their physical boxed edition of Quest for Infamy?
Post by: Kaldire on February 02, 2017, 10:07:51 PM
 :'(
Title: Re: Has anyone actually received their physical boxed edition of Quest for Infamy?
Post by: eXoScoriae on February 07, 2017, 09:33:22 AM
BT is perfectly fine. He is too busy going to Disneyworld to deal with us.

https://www.reddit.com/user/blackthorne519 (https://www.reddit.com/user/blackthorne519)

As you can see from his reddit profile, he pretty much posts exclusively to the disneyworld subreddit, and he has been mutliple times in the past year.

Any argument that he doesn't have the money to send off items goes right out the window when you realized what he spends it on. Any argument that he doesn't have time to ship items goes right out the window when you realize he spends day and night on social media and reddit. Any argument that he doesn't have time to check his KS pages or respond here on the forums goes right out the window when you see he posts daily to his various accounts.

I have begun writing an article about BT's shenanigans, broken promises, absences, and false claims. So far I have interest from mutiple tech & game blogs in publishing it once it is finished. I am also going to post it on every adventure game forum I can find, subreddit, and any other place that has people who care about such things.

On top of all that, I am going to follow through my my original threats of legal action. Anyone who reads through this thread can see I have given Steven ample time to respond and I gave him multiple options to avoid this. From refunding me (which he originally said he would do) to being transparent about the process (which he is incapable of).  All the evidence I need is right here and in the kickstarter comments.

I have been patient. I have been clear about what I intended to do. I have offered several alternatives to legal action. I have offered to assist. I have offered BT time for explanation. I have given him multiple opportunities to follow through on his promises, and he has broken every single one of them.
Title: Re: Has anyone actually received their physical boxed edition of Quest for Infamy?
Post by: Blackthorne on February 07, 2017, 12:22:45 PM
Hi guys, yeah, I haven't checked the forums in a while - I'm sorry about that.  As K0SH noted, we are working on our new games and as I talked about in another thread with @Chadly (http://www.infamous-quests.com/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=31) , I talked about how Shawn and I are basically working on this alone together on Skype.

Yeah, I did make a trip with my family to Orlando over President's Day weekend in January.  Some of you may remember that my wife's picture on Splash Mountain went viral last year, and as a result, we were invited to come back down for this weekend.  We don't get opportunities like this often, so - of course - we accepted.  We got to have a babymoon before my daughter arrives in April, and we got to take my son again.  We're lucky, and it's all because of a silly picture that went viral.

I'm sorry for the delays, as usual - I haven't posted an update yet because right now, it'd just be more "I'm working on it." and that gets redundant.  I am working on it, but right now I had to put all the boxes that contain the various elements of the boxes (The DVDs, the art card inserts, brochures, red-eye magnifying glasses, boxes of the companions, the boxes that hold the folded up big-boxes, the buttons, the stickers, etc. Shipping Boxes) into storage during the holidays, and I haven't been able to take them out to set them up as a station to make, package and get them ready for shipping.  The room I was doing it in is now my son's playroom, as he's walking and playing now.  We have a small house and a ton of junk everywhere, honestly.

Yes, also, I've had some personal health problems I didn't want to talk about, but for the last two months, the labs and checkups for my transplanted kidney have not been good.  I've been extremely anemic, and they think I may be bleeding internally somewhere, but they don't know where.  I've been having lots of doctor's appointments, tests, etc - and I have more coming.  I have an ultra-sound on my kidney and bladders this week, and next week, I have to have a colonoscopy, as they think it could be possible I have a bleeding cancerous tumor.  So, yeah, I'm sorry but I've been trying to deal with the stress of knowing my kidney could possibly be failing, I might have cancer, I have a one year old son, and a daughter on the way.  I know everyone suffers their own problems, but these have been weighing on me, and definitely impacting my life.

I'm working on the boxes and packages.  I have to get some help to try and set up an area where we can pack these things up, get them ready to go out, and get them shipped.  I'm trying.  I'll get there - so, you can send me messages on reddit, and even post nasty things about me there, but it's not like I'm doing things to spite you, or laugh at you, or make fun of you.  I'm just a guy, and I have my failings - I'm proud of the work my team did on making Quest for Infamy - I think it's a great adventure game.  I'm sorry I haven't done as well on the physical rewards.  Don't think it doesn't take up rent in my head or add to my stress, because it does.  The game matters to me, you matter to me, and getting you your rewards matters to me.  I'm not some huckster like so many other kickstarters.  This side of it, however, has gotten the better of me and I'm struggling to keep my head above water on it.  But I will - you will get your rewards.  Like I've said, I've sent out many single DVDs and Books, but the larger, more complex packages I am behind on.

I'm sorry I've let you down.  Believe me, I care about all of you here.


Bt
Title: Re: Has anyone actually received their physical boxed edition of Quest for Infamy?
Post by: eXoScoriae on February 07, 2017, 12:58:51 PM
You seem to be a pathological liar.

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Some of you may remember that my wife's picture on Splash Mountain went viral last year, and as a result, we were invited to come back down for this weekend.

You were "invited" back? Really? By who?

Disney does not invite people out and pay for their trips simply because they had an image go viral.

Secondly, your wife talks about planning the trip on her twitter account. She denotes where you stayed, pics of the magic bands coming in, etc. Don't try and play this off as some "free" thing.

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right now I had to put all the boxes that contain the various elements of the boxes (The DVDs, the art card inserts, brochures, red-eye magnifying glasses, boxes of the companions, the boxes that hold the folded up big-boxes, the buttons, the stickers, etc. Shipping Boxes) into storage during the holidays

So you were lying in December when you said you were still shipping consistently.

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I've been extremely anemic, and they think I may be bleeding internally somewhere, but they don't know where.

So going to Disney World and eating refined foods that deplete the body of iron is what your doc suggested? You are saying you have all these tests, and colonoscopies,  etc you just jetted off to Disney World for 5 days and ate crap food constantly (Both your twitter accounts go on and on about all the crap you ate). Pics of you drinking coke, eating pizza, giant cinnamon rolls, etc... If you are indeed dealing with such serious kidney problems, then it is mind boggling that you would do that to yourself.

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I'm working on the boxes and packages.

No your not. You just claimed you have it all in storage. And not a single person can vouch for you that you have sent a single thing.

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Like I've said, I've sent out many single DVDs and Books

There is literally zero proof of this. On every other KS I have backed, the moment physical goods started arriving people started posting about it. Someone mentioned previously that they had only once seen something even posted on eBay, and you seemed to know who it was the moment they mentioned it. If you can identify that person simply because it got posted to eBay, that suggests you only ever sent a single thing out.

No one here hates you. But that doesn't mean we aren't sick of your shit either. You accepted $93,000. You have been completely silent on your second game kickstarter for over a year. On your other one you have repeatedly posted excuses. You say things like, "I'm not hard to find" and "you can always find me on the forums", but then you ignore everything for nearly 2 months.

You promise to ship things out, and you don't do it.

You promise refunds, and then you don't reply or acknowledge you ever brought it up.

You have run out of goodwill with me and several other backers at this point.

This morning I received a very well researched email that lists all the things you have said and done on multiple websites. Obviously people are tired of your crap when they are doing that much research and forwarding it to me.

You have taken advantage of the kindness and patience of the same people who you too money from for too long. There is absolutely zero excuses at this point. But that is all you are doing. You repeatedly fail to make an actual plan of action. You repeatedly fail to set a time table and stick to it. You repeatedly state you are sending out 3 a week, until you back peddle and say it is all in storage and has been through the holidays.

Up until now you've just had a few frustrated people calling you on your crap.
Title: Re: Has anyone actually received their physical boxed edition of Quest for Infamy?
Post by: eXoScoriae on February 08, 2017, 10:30:05 AM
I've spent some time talking with Steven via email this morning.

While I still don't believe he has been 100% forthright about how things have been going and there have been multiple times where his claims have contradicted each other, I also do believe he intends to get things sent out.

That said, I also believe it is easy for "real life" and the immediate things in front of him to take precedence over a task that is easy to just put in to storage.

I don't think it is fair to Steven to discuss exactly what we talked about, in regards to how best to move forward with this. However I will say that I have chosen to back off for now and give him more time.

I plan to check back in on things in a few months and see how things are going at that time.

I wish the best of luck to both the backers who have been awaiting their items and Steven in finally coming through on something that is long overdue.
Title: Re: Has anyone actually received their physical boxed edition of Quest for Infamy?
Post by: Count Leaves on February 08, 2017, 11:36:24 AM
I claimed refund half an hour ago. Long time ago I pre-ordered the companion via backerkit and pledged for Order of the Throne and Roehm to Ruin.

@eXoScoriae (http://www.infamous-quests.com/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=221), You may have your reasons for giving Steven more time.
I think he had plenty of it. At the end of December 2016 I set him one last deadline (February 1st) and even waited one week longer.
I really don't care anymore why he isn't able to send out the book.

The final straw was this:
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"babymoon before my daughter arrives in April"

Looks like a new excuse is made up, though we had that kind already. I really dislike people who use their children as some kind of rhetorical shield.

Game over.

 

Title: Re: Has anyone actually received their physical boxed edition of Quest for Infamy?
Post by: Blackthorne on February 12, 2017, 10:09:06 AM
I wasn't using my child as a rhetorical shield, I was just being open with you about my life.  That's all.  Your refund should be all set.  Wish you well.


Bt
Title: A NOTE FROM BT ON PACKAGES
Post by: Blackthorne on February 12, 2017, 11:25:31 AM
Okay,

I can't believe this has to be said, and it's more for any lurkers that might be around, but here goes - as I've said in many places, the best way to contact me is via email - info@infamous-quests.com gets to me quickly.  If you have something to discuss with me, get in touch with me there. Contacting members of my family, being rude or threatening to them in any way is over the line, and if this happens, I will not be pleasant about it.

As for the shipping, some work and packages have been done this weekend and will be sent out this week - hopefully those of you posting here regularly (Kaldire, K0Sh & eXo) should get your packages this week.  I'll be sending out more and more in the coming weeks, and I hope you all enjoy the contents.

I have tried to be level headed and humble in dealing with this, as I know this is MY delay.  The shipping part is on me, as I have the elements, and is not indicative of any other members of Infamous Quests.  The teams of people who worked on these games, made them, tested them and released them are amazing people.  I had the fortune of working some of the most amazing and creative people I've ever met - they brought my words and thoughts to life, and they raised the quality of my own work in my writing and my programming.  I wanted to make some adventure games, much like the games I played in my youth when I was young, and being able to do that and share them with an audience has been amazing. 

I'm sorry the physical rewards end has been my downfall - I can assure you, there has been no ill-will or malicious intent with them.  Only poor time management skills, some anxiety about making sure they come out okay, and a lack of the free time I once took for granted.  I am very sorry about this end.  Please don't think badly of others around here because of my mistakes.  Professionally, I take the lumps on this one and it hurts.  I always tried to run the Kickstarter on a personal level as well - because it was such a new and intimate way to fund the creation of the games.  I got to know many of you on a personal level over the past few years, and believe me, making your acquaintances and sometimes,  your friendship, has made all the difference in the world to me.  People from around the world offered us (and me) not only their financial support to make these games, but their personal support.  I met a lot of other people who shared the dreams and love of these kinds of games.  I could have never done that without Kickstarter and Infamous Quests.

 In the end, I know - I sure made a piss poor shipping department, and believe me, I'll never go work in one for the rest of my life.  I may never work in making games or anything creative again, who knows.  But I'll also never have as amazing an experience as I did with this.  I look forward to sending out your packages, and with each one, I know a weight will be lifted off me, and with many I'll be including some hand-written notes.  It's meant a lot to me.  All my love to team IQ - you guys helped make some amazing games.



Bt
Title: Re: Has anyone actually received their physical boxed edition of Quest for Infamy?
Post by: DosboxLetsPlay on February 14, 2017, 12:22:52 PM
@Blackthorne (http://www.infamous-quests.com/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=2)

I am sad to read that some people have taken not getting their boxes as far as starting to annoy your family about it. I, also, do believe that your intentions are in the right place and the best way to calm people/even regain their trust is by shipping out the boxes to them. I hope they can share pictures of received physical goodies asap as I'm sure that will put everyone's mind at rest about whether you are actually shipping the boxes or not. :)

That being said, take care mate and I hope to hear more of your new games in the near-ish future as well. :P
Title: Re: Has anyone actually received their physical boxed edition of Quest for Infamy?
Post by: Blackthorne on February 14, 2017, 07:34:31 PM
Yeah, honestly, I think that many of the people that have gotten their physical goods just don't care any more and don't check in here, or on KS, etc.  I'm sending out some this week, so hopefully people will start getting them, and I'm sure some people will share them here.


Bt
Title: Re: Has anyone actually received their physical boxed edition of Quest for Infamy?
Post by: MusicallyInspired on February 16, 2017, 02:16:04 PM
Disgraceful. Good luck, Bt.
Title: Re: Has anyone actually received their physical boxed edition of Quest for Infamy?
Post by: Brainiac on February 16, 2017, 04:11:51 PM
...I'm sure some people will share them here.

I certainly will once I have all four titles, Blackthorne...or possibly even before that. I'm sure you know exactly why.
Title: Re: Has anyone actually received their physical boxed edition of Quest for Infamy?
Post by: Count Leaves on February 17, 2017, 08:58:13 AM
Your refund should be all set.  Wish you well.

I received my refund. Wish you well, too.
Title: Re: Has anyone actually received their physical boxed edition of Quest for Infamy?
Post by: MusicallyInspired on February 18, 2017, 02:50:19 PM
Me too!

BTW, can I have all the extra boxes that these guys abandoned? :P :D
Title: Re: Has anyone actually received their physical boxed edition of Quest for Infamy?
Post by: Sven_Q45 on February 19, 2017, 12:53:07 PM
I didn´t recieve anything yet. But I just read you sent out a few this week. Oh I´m so looking forward to the rewards. :)
Title: Re: Has anyone actually received their physical boxed edition of Quest for Infamy?
Post by: eXoScoriae on February 20, 2017, 09:45:46 AM
A person contacted your family?

I'm sorry to hear about that.

It did become clear to me during my crusade that you have a few folks out there who transcend simply being frustrated and fall more into a camp of having a personal dislike for you.

I don't know their exact reasons, but I hope my posts here and on the campaign didn't encourage anyone to go to those lengths.
Title: Re: Has anyone actually received their physical boxed edition of Quest for Infamy?
Post by: k0SH on February 20, 2017, 05:41:37 PM
Thank you, Blackthorne, for the update.
As said before I'm at the point where only a successful delivery convinces me.
Simply because I've read "send this or next week" for how long?

So.
Since this all is last weeks news again, can you please let us know to who you really have send packages last week?
And do you have a tracking number?
Thanks.

More important: To WHICH address have you send it??? Since no one was asking for an update.

Of course.. "sent out this week / should get your packages this week" .. won't work internationally.
Fastest is two weeks if send via regular mail.
Depending on the shipping method and different mail hubs in the US it can take 3-7 weeks.
Or have you paid for express? Which is 3-5 business days.

PS. E-mailed you that there is a forum update ;-)
Title: Re: Has anyone actually received their physical boxed edition of Quest for Infamy?
Post by: Kaldire on February 20, 2017, 07:29:24 PM
im also a bit worried bt might send to my old address :P

but i did give both but that was , long ago.
Title: Re: Has anyone actually received their physical boxed edition of Quest for Infamy?
Post by: Blackthorne on February 21, 2017, 09:35:49 AM
K0SH, got your email! Well, I can't tell you who I sent the packages out to last week - they were some DVD and/or Book only ones, and they're not regular posters here, so I don't want to publicly announce them.  I can say, however, that packages for eXo, K0SH, Sven, DosBox and Kaldire are being packaged today, and I'm going to the post office Thursday afternoon, so I can send you all (privately) tracking numbers and such so you can track your packages.  Kal, you can send me a PM to confirm the new address, pretty sure I have it, but just let's check before I send it out.  Sven and DosBox, if you want to confirm your addresses with me, too, send me a PM.

I should have confirmation and tracking numbers for you, like I said, so I'll send PMs/emails (whatever you prefer) with the details.


Bt
Title: Re: Has anyone actually received their physical boxed edition of Quest for Infamy?
Post by: helmishgen on February 21, 2017, 10:14:32 AM
This is great to hear, BT.  Thanks for the updates.
Title: Re: Has anyone actually received their physical boxed edition of Quest for Infamy?
Post by: Blackthorne on February 25, 2017, 09:59:03 AM
Hey guys, sorry - the last few days of my week were a wash, but I've got some free time this weekend, so I'm finishing up those packages and I should have them out next week sometime.  I'll be sure to send you your confirmation numbers - just wanted to give you an update.  Just have a few more packages to finish up and sort, labels to print, etc.  Thanks!  More pics and stuff post-weekend.

Bt
Title: Re: Has anyone actually received their physical boxed edition of Quest for Infamy?
Post by: MusicallyInspired on February 25, 2017, 10:18:34 PM
Lookin' good! I love this box design. Especially the grey system requirements sticker on the side. Can't wait to put it on my shelf!
Title: Re: Has anyone actually received their physical boxed edition of Quest for Infamy?
Post by: k0SH on February 27, 2017, 04:33:38 PM
Blackthorne on February 12
„As for the shipping, some work and packages have been done this weekend and will be sent out this week - hopefully those of you posting here regularly (Kaldire, K0Sh & eXo) should get your packages this week.  I'll be sending out more and more in the coming weeks, and I hope you all enjoy the contents.“

I was like: Wait a minute? Getting it THIS week? The same week when he wants to send them? What did I miss?


Blackthorne on February 21
„Well, I can't tell you who I sent the packages out to last week - they were some DVD and/or Book only ones, and they're not regular posters here..
I can say, however, that packages for eXo, K0SH, Sven, DosBox and Kaldire are being packaged today, and I'm going to the post office Thursday afternoon [added: Thursday = 23 February], so I can send you all (privately) tracking numbers and such so you can track your packages.“


Ahhh... THIS week is totally different. :-)
Plus plans from Tuesday to Thursday.. what could go wrong in two days, huh?
Oh boy, seems like a lot could happen. No tracking information in 4 days. Life can be a bitch.


Blackthorne on February 25
„Hey guys, sorry - the last few days of my week were a wash, but I've got some free time this weekend, so I'm finishing up those packages and I should have them out next week sometime.“

Well... finishing up? Like putting a box in another box with (hopefully) some protective material?
Time intense thing to do, we all have been there.  ???
But no chance to directly put em in the mail after finishing a few of those?
What ever.. the new deadline for tracking information is Saturday, March 4th.
Fingers crossed!!!

Honestly, BT, I don't get it.
I, others, have asked for a sign of life after another long time of silence.
What we got were another 'promises'. Again.
You giving us updates with delivery dates. "This week", "next week".
And for another two weeks nothing but stories.
All this is so messed up and I can't even longer tell why?
This is all a little bit ridiculous imo.

Enough said, again, looking forward to next Saturday ;-)
Thanks for the updates.

PS. Like how people are still falling for this:
"Sending this week". "YEAH, great news" ;-)
Title: Re: Has anyone actually received their physical boxed edition of Quest for Infamy?
Post by: Chadly on February 27, 2017, 05:02:42 PM
Will any and all backers give Steve a break, please?!!!!  He is in poor health and has a family.  Yes he owes us backers, will we get it, yes we will, I hope.  For fucks sake show some fucking understanding to the mans personal responsibility.  His family, his health.  Yes I may be grandstanding for him but im a decent friggin person, who pledged twice to make these games happen.  I really don't give a flying fuck about a box, or a guide.  Altho they would be nice.  I helped make QFI/Order/Roehm to Ruin.  The only ones I don't have are Roehm to Ruin/Fortress o fire.  I have not threatened legal action against anyone like some have done here. I am content to wait.  Yes id like my QFI guide.  Am I going to hound BT for it no.  I am a decent human being, unlike some.  Chadly.
Title: Re: Has anyone actually received their physical boxed edition of Quest for Infamy?
Post by: k0SH on February 27, 2017, 05:35:07 PM
Familiy? Yes. Btw, a lot have.
Illness? Sadly, yes.

But with all respekt, Chadly, Sir.
Has someone forced BT to say "ship this week"?
No. Most of us were asking for an update.
Which I still think it's ok to ask for.

Bt was the one with "this week" and "next week" stories.
Again.
And the past few days were another example for the last many months.
Simple as that.

Explanined often enough why I lost fait.

Btw: feel free to call me whatever you want.

Title: Re: Has anyone actually received their physical boxed edition of Quest for Infamy?
Post by: Kaldire on February 27, 2017, 06:10:18 PM
I can honestly tell you KOSH is a very decent human being.
this is from experience.

just fyi there :)

call me whatever you want too
just dont call me late for dinner.
Title: Re: Has anyone actually received their physical boxed edition of Quest for Infamy?
Post by: Chadly on February 28, 2017, 04:31:12 PM
I am in no way what so ever calling anyone who post here names.  We are all adults here. I just feel like some make making "the rewards" a personal issue.  I like to think we are all friends who post here.  My prior post was done out of frustration and shouldn't be taken as a personal attack.  Whether you have gave $10 or $10000 to the folks at IQ, im sure what is owed will be fulfilled.  If not, at least I know my money helped make a couple of great games, I the ones I played in my youth.  And I'm sure kosh is a decent person, no insult or slight was intended, or should be inferred.  I only hope that BT health and family are well, prior posts suggest the man is in dire straights. 

                                                                                              Chadly.
Title: Re: Has anyone actually received their physical boxed edition of Quest for Infamy?
Post by: SarahLiz on March 02, 2017, 09:04:59 PM
I kinda feel the same.  It comes when it comes.  I know it can be frustrating to hear differing "promises" but come on guys.  We all know Steve works extremely hard & tirelessly.  If, for some reason, I never see the guide, I'm still extremely stoked to have been a part of such an amazing game. 

That said...hi!  :)  I haven't posted in a really long time, and I hope you all are happy & well. 


Sarah  :P
Title: Re: Has anyone actually received their physical boxed edition of Quest for Infamy?
Post by: Blackthorne on March 07, 2017, 04:07:37 PM
Hey Guys,

I took a bunch of packages down to the Post Office today and sent out some stuff! I've sent some people PMs with tracking numbers and info - more will be going out soon, and we're rolling from here on out.  Hopefully some of you will see your stuff very soon!

EDIT:

Also, seriously, everyone who posts here is a decent person, really - I understand people's frustrations, and often what I want to happen doesn't meet with what DOES happen for me in a week.  I'm really excited I got a bunch of packages made and a bunch down to the post office.  I'll be happy to get more and more done as weeks go on.  Thanks to all who support us, and me, and I know why some are peeved, I do.  Hopefully, this will all be behind us in several weeks and we're all happier about things.  Also, HEY SARAH!
Bt
Title: Re: Has anyone actually received their physical boxed edition of Quest for Infamy?
Post by: k0SH on March 09, 2017, 06:30:06 PM
got the tracking information.
thanks.
let see how long it takes (which can take a while).
Title: Re: Has anyone actually received their physical boxed edition of Quest for Infamy?
Post by: eXoScoriae on March 13, 2017, 06:09:07 PM
http://imgur.com/gsEPIuU (http://imgur.com/gsEPIuU)

Thar she blows!

Thank you BT for following through.
Title: Re: Has anyone actually received their physical boxed edition of Quest for Infamy?
Post by: led on March 13, 2017, 06:55:47 PM
Did you get e-mail with a tracking number?  I haven't gotten anything yet despite some new e-mails back and forth with Bt
Title: Re: Has anyone actually received their physical boxed edition of Quest for Infamy?
Post by: eXoScoriae on March 14, 2017, 10:30:12 AM
Yes, BT sent me an email last week when he sent it out.
Title: Re: Has anyone actually received their physical boxed edition of Quest for Infamy?
Post by: k0SH on March 14, 2017, 03:29:56 PM
Received my package (Germany). Thanks BT.


First..
..the COMPANION is awesome!
So full of information, so cool, so Sierra ;-)


Second..
..the box content is very cool!
Manual, catalog, cards, pins and stuff. Well done, Sir (and team)!


Third..
..the Box is not so super cool but still nice to at least have one!

Problem isn't the shipping box (good choice there!) but the game box itself.
It's super thin and due to that super prone to damage.
And yes, mine got damaged on the long shipping way.
Not due to outside influences but due to inside-the-shipping-box influences!!
PS. Same happened to the big box of Moebius which is bigger in size but the same quality.

If you doesn't lock the game box into position inside the shipping box it will move - which it did - and so gets without fail damaged.
Result: mine has a few marks on the box which aren't cool but not the biggest issue.
Worst part is it's irrevocable crushed.
The camera can't even focus the box as a whole due to the dents.
 :-\

I know there wasn't much budget for this so I've mixed feelings about giving a final judgment.
But if I'm super honest it's a bit like "well meant is not well done".
Again, don't get me wrong, glad we have a box at all.
And not mad about having supported IQ and the nice game!
Title: Re: Has anyone actually received their physical boxed edition of Quest for Infamy?
Post by: led on March 31, 2017, 06:03:24 PM
So any chance any packages will go out this weekend?
Title: Re: Has anyone actually received their physical boxed edition of Quest for Infamy?
Post by: Kaldire on April 04, 2017, 03:54:22 PM
odd my box looked nothing like that inside :(
im confused..

hit me up bt..

lemme know whats what. still hugs from my end just confused..

and as mentioned its not even half my order shipped.. hmms
one pin, etc.. not two, no signed game etc.. but ive mentioned this in pms for a long while now.

cheers n beers.

kal-
Title: Re: Has anyone actually received their physical boxed edition of Quest for Infamy?
Post by: MusicallyInspired on April 04, 2017, 06:20:00 PM
Steven just had a baby so don't expect much prompt conversation for a while.
Title: Re: Has anyone actually received their physical boxed edition of Quest for Infamy?
Post by: Kaldire on April 05, 2017, 09:48:41 PM
oh I know that much mate,

baby wise,

just curious he knows how I am, so no worries just hopes going like urmmm out the window, and shrugs
least i got the game box n guide but as i said, it wasnt what we talked about in pm and is only 1/3 my order give or take.

shrugs n hugs!
kal-
Title: Re: Has anyone actually received their physical boxed edition of Quest for Infamy?
Post by: Blackthorne on April 06, 2017, 08:52:56 AM
Hey! yeah, like MI said, we just had a baby girl this week! Kal, what WAS inside your box, because all the same stuff should have been in it as K0SH got. 

I'm going to be finishing up a few more packages this weekend when I get a free moment, so more will be going out.  Sorry about the delay, Led. I'm on it.

Bt
Title: Re: Has anyone actually received their physical boxed edition of Quest for Infamy?
Post by: led on April 08, 2017, 01:45:57 PM
Great news all around!  Looking forward to this weekend.
Title: Re: Has anyone actually received their physical boxed edition of Quest for Infamy?
Post by: led on April 15, 2017, 05:04:20 AM
any packages this weekend?
Title: Re: Has anyone actually received their physical boxed edition of Quest for Infamy?
Post by: Blackthorne on April 17, 2017, 02:12:42 PM
any packages this weekend?

Yep! You should get yours over the next couple days.


Bt
Title: Re: Has anyone actually received their physical boxed edition of Quest for Infamy?
Post by: led on April 22, 2017, 03:27:09 PM
Yay!  Got my DVD case!
Title: Re: Has anyone actually received their physical boxed edition of Quest for Infamy?
Post by: Themis_GR on May 15, 2017, 01:05:03 PM
Hey everyone,

I would like to ask Steven - @Blackthorne (http://www.infamous-quests.com/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=2) - or any other guy responsible for shipping the QfI Physical Copies and Companions, how's the shipping process going. I know some guys have recently received their boxed copies, but it's been over a month since that and there has been no more updates regarding the issue. So, Steven, could you please be so kind as to let us know when are you planning to ship the next batch? I'm sure I'm representing more people than just myself here.

Thanks a lot

Themis, Greece
Title: Re: Has anyone actually received their physical boxed edition of Quest for Infamy?
Post by: Blackthorne on May 15, 2017, 05:29:14 PM
Hey Themis,

Yeah, it's just me shipping stuff.  I've been continuously shipping items, but I have not gotten to yours yet; I had bigger packages and overseas stuff marked for later, as it requires a little more time and effort to assemble them properly.

I've been trying to keep up, sending out a few packages a week, but things have been busy.  You should see yours sometime in the next few weeks, I hope.  You can always check in here with me, I try to check these forums pretty regularly now.

Bt
Title: Re: Has anyone actually received their physical boxed edition of Quest for Infamy?
Post by: Themis_GR on May 18, 2017, 12:10:05 PM
Thank you very much for your reply Steven, I really appreciate it. Oh, and happy birthday!!!  :D
Title: Re: Has anyone actually received their physical boxed edition of Quest for Infamy?
Post by: gurok on August 26, 2017, 04:48:12 AM
@Blackthorne (http://www.infamous-quests.com/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=2)
What do I need to do to get physical goods shipped to me? I tried contacting you at info@infamous-quests.com about a month ago and got no reply. There are a bunch of us on Kickstarter in a similar situation:

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/infamousquests/quest-for-infamy-an-adventure-game-by-infamous-que/comments (https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/infamousquests/quest-for-infamy-an-adventure-game-by-infamous-que/comments)

We were buoyed by the mention of several people who had received their goods, but following that, there's been a period of silence. There are still many people who haven't received anything. Can you please tell us what is going on?
Title: Re: Has anyone actually received their physical boxed edition of Quest for Infamy?
Post by: Kaldire on August 26, 2017, 07:22:55 PM
@gurok (http://www.infamous-quests.com/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=177)
which items do you mean
just the dvd and book?

or other items
Title: Re: Has anyone actually received their physical boxed edition of Quest for Infamy?
Post by: Chadly on August 26, 2017, 08:52:13 PM
@gurok (http://www.infamous-quests.com/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=177),  I have said this before in prior posts, I am sure what is owed you will get. I understand your and other backers frustrations as Im one too.  When I supported QFI 3 plus years ago it was like reliving my childhood exp of playing old sierra games.  I was pleased to be taken back into those fond memories of 20 plus years ago. Todays games are mostly mindless first person shooters, in my opinion, but that's what kids today want I guess. ( I am nearly 40, and it sucks to say it! LOL).  Please understand the dilemma Steve is in, he is the only one shipping items, has health issues, and two toddlers at home.  When I backed QFI I paid for the game and a guide, bought a cool tshirt, and kickstarted Order of the Thorne/Roehm to Ruin.  I have received QFI and Order of the Thorne.  Still waitinf for Roehm to Ruin.  Many kickstarters have failed, but Imfamous Quests has succeeded in making two great games, which little to no profit was realiazed sadly.  I would love to see QFI2 but that's a pipe dream.  Chadly. :)
Title: Re: Has anyone actually received their physical boxed edition of Quest for Infamy?
Post by: gurok on August 26, 2017, 11:45:05 PM
@gurok ([url]http://www.infamous-quests.com/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=177[/url])
which items do you mean
just the dvd and book?

or other items


I haven't received anything yet. I'm after the physical copy of the game, which in my case is a big box version. I didn't order the book if you're talking about the hint book. Supposedly, mine includes a t-shirt too.

The point is though, it isn't just me. Go to the KS comments section and you'll see a bunch of people who haven't received theirs yet either. I think BT has shipped to only the most vocal of backers and at this point, I'm beginning to doubt whether he had enough rewards made.

@Chadly (http://www.infamous-quests.com/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=31)

I am not so sure that I'll get what is owed to me, that's why I'm posting here. Am I to understand that you have received some physical items? I haven't received anything.
Title: Re: Has anyone actually received their physical boxed edition of Quest for Infamy?
Post by: Chadly on August 27, 2017, 04:50:37 AM
@gurok (http://www.infamous-quests.com/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=177)  No I haven't received any physical items. I am only owed a guide.  As posted before I understand the frustrations and yes I have seen the KS comments page.  Were you able to download a copy of the game from Steam or GoG or humble store?  As to the tshirt, I bought one from TSpring during the campaign for $20.  Yes the physical rewards have been made and Steve does have them as he posted a picture of them somewhere on these forums.  I remember seeing them.  I can only tell you email him, from the "my messages" part if this forum when you log in.  Chadly.  P.S.  Your money and mine amd others went to make a fantastic game, for me if I never see my guide at least I know I helped create a couple of AWESOME games.  Chadly.
Title: Re: Has anyone actually received their physical boxed edition of Quest for Infamy?
Post by: Chadly on August 27, 2017, 05:08:26 AM
@gurok (http://www.infamous-quests.com/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=177)  Go to WWW.kickstarter.com (http://WWW.kickstarter.com), Search for Quest for Infamy, click on Companion, then click on updates, toy will see pictures of the physical items. Chadly
Title: Re: Has anyone actually received their physical boxed edition of Quest for Infamy?
Post by: Kaldire on August 27, 2017, 05:15:37 PM
@Chadly (http://www.infamous-quests.com/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=31)
you surely know that most of the items were not made
just fyi

I dont think thats a secret but just wanting ya to know
Title: Re: Has anyone actually received their physical boxed edition of Quest for Infamy?
Post by: Chadly on August 27, 2017, 05:44:21 PM
@Kaldire (http://www.infamous-quests.com/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=477)  Yup Kaldire, I knew that.  I was only trying to help the guy out by providing assistance that some of the goods were made.  Hows it going mate?
Title: Re: Has anyone actually received their physical boxed edition of Quest for Infamy?
Post by: Kaldire on August 27, 2017, 07:57:32 PM
well im alive.. sorta

still so alone and man its getting hot
106-107 today  like 43C-44c week

ughhh melting

daughter almost 17.. without mum  RIP , = insane and hard to deal with  ahhh heartbreak and boys and wanting to be free

cat ran away back to old apartment after i moved, the new apt is 2000 times worse than were i used to live.
ughh

just want life again

working on alpha 2.0 here, trying to get my mind off depressing thoughts
smoking cigs to much, at about 1 pack a day now ICK
feeling it..

how are yous?


ps
I hoped the crew made at least a mock up of the calendar n cards, they could toss that into pdf and let us print ours if they trust enough..
or even let us find someone to make em dirt cheap with decent quality

XD

still hoping for hoodie for winters n such, and well yea!
I do have a spare box sent by mistake I could easily mail the user that just got the box,
i dont know where they live but, if bt is cool with it..
and it doesnt cost an arm and leg to mail, ..
might help someone out and save some time on bts end

Title: Re: Has anyone actually received their physical boxed edition of Quest for Infamy?
Post by: Blackthorne on August 28, 2017, 09:33:56 AM
I have more than enough Boxes, DVDs and Books for the backers - I have a basement full of them.  What I don't have at the moment is an abundance of extra time to pack, sort and ship the items.  I usually only have a couple hours on Saturday Mornings to put some things together, and I've been doing so and sending out a few packages at a time right now.  This is just how it is - I'm the only one doing this, and people will get their items, but it's just slow going.

Doing my best, making notes and trying to work my way down a massive list.  In a perfect world, we would have made money on our venture of producing a game, and I could have hired extra help to do this, but, in fact, I'm in debt up to my eyeballs and just trying to do my best here. Such is life - we took a risk and hoped it would work out.  It didn't. I'm working on getting everything out, but - like I said - it's slow.  It'll get there, though.

Bt
Title: Re: Has anyone actually received their physical boxed edition of Quest for Infamy?
Post by: Kaldire on August 28, 2017, 05:08:04 PM
keep healthy and family first matey

I was just offerin to help :)

dont push to hard after that operation mate! Ill drive there n kick ur bum bum!

XD
 :-*
Title: Re: Has anyone actually received their physical boxed edition of Quest for Infamy?
Post by: DosboxLetsPlay on September 04, 2017, 06:36:06 PM
Well, I've waited ~3 years for the physical stuff. It's great that some people got their boxes back in spring and actually provided pictures of their received goods. However, for me personally (and this is a message directly to @Blackthorne (http://www.infamous-quests.com/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=2) ), starting from October, I won't be able to receive the goods, so it would actually be best if you don't send my physical goodies before June, 2018. At the rate it's going though, I do believe that it won't be an issue, but I just thought I'd mention it, so I hope you take that into consideration if at all possible. :D

Thanks.  8)
Title: Re: Has anyone actually received their physical boxed edition of Quest for Infamy?
Post by: Chadly on September 23, 2017, 01:22:17 AM
  Hi Everyone!  Just wondering where everyone is? Been awhile since anyone has posted anything?  Any status updates on Roehm to Ruin/FOF?  Hope all is well with all. :)

                                                                                   Chadly
Title: Re: Has anyone actually received their physical boxed edition of Quest for Infamy?
Post by: Blackthorne on September 26, 2017, 08:37:44 AM
Hey Chadly,

I was actually very ill for a while; I had a stint in the hospital, as well.  My kidney transplant was affected and damaged, and I'm still in recovery.  I've been mostly resting and taking it easy while waiting for my condition to improve.  I have a bunch more doctors and nephrologists appointments in the next few months... it's been crazy.   

Shawn and I are hoping to return to work on QFI 2.0 and Roehm to Ruin in the next few weeks, and I'm also working towards packing up more items and sending them out.  I'm very tired all the time, and my limited time has become even more limited lately.  If I'm being honest, it's been a very difficult period in my life - but I'm starting to feel better slowly, and I'm getting more optimistic about everything.  When you get as sick as I did, it's easy to lose hope and get down about everything.  Trying to heal both body and mind here now.  Thanks for checking in.  Hopefully we'll get this stuff wrapped up soon, and be able to concentrate on finishing Order of the Thorne next year.


Bt
Title: Re: Has anyone actually received their physical boxed edition of Quest for Infamy?
Post by: Chadly on September 27, 2017, 12:15:02 PM
Hi BT.  Sorry to hear about your health man.  Get well soon I hope.  Health and family are the 2 most Important things in life.  All others are moot. Don't worry about the games and shipping out friggin packages, they will be done when they are done.  Thanks Chadly. :)
Title: Re: Has anyone actually received their physical boxed edition of Quest for Infamy?
Post by: arremelle on March 15, 2018, 10:27:05 AM
Hi,
just looking through my kickstarted history and saw this one from >5 years ago now, $135:

Quest For Infamy - An Adventure Game By Infamous Quests   $135.00   Same as the $125 tier - with the Big Box Added. Shipping…
Estimated delivery Dec 2012

I never received the game and I wondered if all games were shipped? I have moved house last year and I am sure my new address should have been updated.

I am in the UK so I wonder were all games shipped even to UK?

Thanks
Title: Re: Has anyone actually received their physical boxed edition of Quest for Infamy?
Post by: MusicallyInspired on March 16, 2018, 08:23:13 AM
Read up on this thread, dude.

TL;DR it's coming.
Title: Re: Has anyone actually received their physical boxed edition of Quest for Infamy?
Post by: Blake00 on July 13, 2018, 05:47:20 AM
Been meaning to drop by and see when my physical copy was coming but have since seen that BT's in real trouble health wise again. I've donated to the gofundme and am crossing my fingers all goes well with the transplant from his wife. I've also posted about the situation over on the Kickstarter comments as people there were getting super aggro and threatening legal action etc.. sigh.
Title: Re: Has anyone actually received their physical boxed edition of Quest for Infamy?
Post by: Blackthorne on July 13, 2018, 06:36:40 PM
As much as it sucks, I'll probably start feeling better after I begin dialysis.  Then maybe I can get a couple people to help me and send out more stuff.  Right now, I'm just trying to get through days.

People are always super aggro in the Kickstarter Comments.  I understand the frustration, but there's only so much I can do right now.  And it's just me, we're not some corporation or even really a company.  But I will get everything out, eventually.  I'm not just going to give up and let it fallow like some campaigns.  I really like the box and stuff we have and I want people to have it.  I just hope that at least 5% of the people who are super aggro really WANT the stuff and don't just want to bitch.

One dude who I sent the stuff to, well, I sent him a little extra to be nice and give a little "sorry about" the delay.  Dude put the stuff on EBAY the DAY he got it and tried to sell it for like $200 bucks.  Sigh.



Bt
Title: Re: Has anyone actually received their physical boxed edition of Quest for Infamy?
Post by: Chadly on July 14, 2018, 12:04:59 AM
HI all.

    I think we can all agree that SOME PEOPLE are just unappreciative assholes. Hey if you sent me that stuff i would treasure it and put it with all my other Game memorbilia. Selling the shit om ebay for money is just too Low! Assholes!

                                                                                                                           P.S.
                                                                                                                   Also being a dick on KS comments and
                                                                                     legal threats to sue the creators over rewards is just awful.
Title: Re: Has anyone actually received their physical boxed edition of Quest for Infamy?
Post by: Blake00 on July 14, 2018, 09:10:59 AM
Stay strong BT.

What a dick. Obviously not a true fan then. I've really got into collecting boxsets these days. Had plenty from my childhood already (including some nice sierra ones) but lately I've been buying boxsets of heaps of old games that I treasured in the 90s but didn't have a proper copy of eg just got my hands on an original Micropose Master of Magic boxset with the manual and spell sheets etc.. F*CK YEAH lol! So yes I will treasure my IQ stuff when it arrives although come think of it I think I only ordered the plastic dvd case version instead of the full boxset. Sh*t! Haha oh well!!

Yeah hopefully my post on the kickstarter comments might 'kickstart' a few peoples consciences and take some heat off you guys for a few more months.
Title: Re: Has anyone actually received their physical boxed edition of Quest for Infamy?
Post by: Blake00 on June 08, 2019, 10:33:54 AM
Hey there BT. Have you managed to knock down any more physical copy mail outs? My physical copy of Hero-U arrived the other day and it reminded me about my QFI physical.

I saw that you're maybe getting another kidney now after all which is good news!!!

Oh and people stopped being so nasty on the kickstarter comments after I told them last year about what you were going through.
Title: Re: Has anyone actually received their physical boxed edition of Quest for Infamy?
Post by: Blackthorne on June 10, 2019, 08:10:59 AM
I haven't got a new kidney yet.  I'm on dialysis, and doing better.  I've gotten out a couple more, and I hope to roll on more as the summer goes on here.
Title: Re: Has anyone actually received their physical boxed edition of Quest for Infamy?
Post by: SarahLiz on August 21, 2019, 07:41:25 PM
Haven't been on in quite some time and was just catching up...I REALLY hated to read that you're back in dialysis.  I can't even imagine what you've been going through the last couple of years.  Thinking of you, Bt.

~Sarah
Title: Re: Has anyone actually received their physical boxed edition of Quest for Infamy?
Post by: Blackthorne on August 22, 2019, 10:30:10 AM
Sarah! It's so nice to hear from you - I was just looking through old QFI Stuff and saw your portrait and wondered how you've been.


Bt
Title: Re: Has anyone actually received their physical boxed edition of Quest for Infamy?
Post by: Blake00 on September 12, 2019, 05:07:10 AM
I haven't got a new kidney yet.  I'm on dialysis, and doing better.  I've gotten out a couple more, and I hope to roll on more as the summer goes on here.

No worries mate. *fingers crossed*