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Title: Other Kickstarter Projects
Post by: Lupin on July 11, 2012, 04:35:11 PM
Just hijacking this thread for a moment, I'll return you to Lupin's initial post shortly. If you want find the latest in Kickstarter projects, news and other exciting happenings in the community then head over to Kickstart Ventures. This was a joint venture set up by Broomie and Blackthorne of IQ. Kickstart Ventures is a blog that focuses on crowded funded games a long with other features such as interviews, reviews and guest articles.

(http://www.infamous-quests.com/home/images/iqksbanner.png) (http://www.kickstartadventure.com/home/)

Thanks, now back to Lupin! - Broomie

Not sure if this topic will be allowed (if it isn't, feel free to delete mods), but considering how successful Quest for Infamy was on Kickstarter, why not have a thread for members to promote other Kickstarter campaigns that we feel deserve our attention. Whether it is cos the project is really cool or (more likely) because it is in danger of not achieving its target.

http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1878730846/reincarnation-the-root-of-all-evil (http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1878730846/reincarnation-the-root-of-all-evil)

I'll start us off with the above one. Another great Point and Click Adventure game where the protagonist is not entirely on the good side. Whist it has achieved it's target goal, there is additional content that will be made if we can up the amount, and considering that we achieved $10,000 in just 48 hours, I think we can all help out here.

http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/370388468/steampunk-alphabet-book-the-abcssteampunked (http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/370388468/steampunk-alphabet-book-the-abcssteampunked)

This is one I really hope makes it. At the time of this post, it has 15 days left and it is $2,000 short of reaching it's goal, but it is a Steampunk themed Alphabet Book. As we know, anything Steampunk related is fantastic. So for this guy to create an ABC book around it is just great and the best part, not just for lil kids, you can read it as a normal book. Would love to have this just to read to my niece/nephew when they are old enough
Title: Re: Other Kickstarter Projects
Post by: Blackthorne on July 11, 2012, 04:51:02 PM
Of course you guys can talk about other Kickstarter projects.  I encourage it, in fact.


Bt
Title: Re: Other Kickstarter Projects
Post by: Intendant S on July 11, 2012, 07:02:59 PM
Here's a couple more that I recommend:

http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/warbirdgames/jack-houston-and-the-necronauts?ref=users (http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/warbirdgames/jack-houston-and-the-necronauts?ref=users)
http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/ocremix/a-4-disc-final-fantasy-6-album-from-oc-remix?ref=users (http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/ocremix/a-4-disc-final-fantasy-6-album-from-oc-remix?ref=users)
Title: Re: Other Kickstarter Projects
Post by: Jerminator on July 11, 2012, 07:14:23 PM
Yeah these all look like great projects that deserve support. It's always good to support the community. Cheers for that.
Title: Re: Other Kickstarter Projects
Post by: s_d on July 12, 2012, 05:31:11 AM
Reincarnation made it's $15K Kickstarter goal!  HUGE thanks to Bt for crawling up from the grave to send the armada over there.  In fact, the response was so enthusiastic, it looks like a $18K stretch goal will be met, where all the backers get thanked in a bonus room in the game (I think).  It will fund tomorrow sometime, I think.
Title: Re: Other Kickstarter Projects
Post by: s_d on September 04, 2012, 03:53:17 AM
Everyone in the adventure-gaming known universe seems to already know about this, but I'll mention it anyway... Broken Fscking Sword is back  ;D

http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/165500047/broken-sword-the-serpents-curse-adventure (http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/165500047/broken-sword-the-serpents-curse-adventure)

Head 'asplode, and all, included with every pledge.
Title: Re: Other Kickstarter Projects
Post by: Klytos on September 04, 2012, 05:01:23 AM
Yep, love this project. Support it!
Title: Re: Other Kickstarter Projects
Post by: rugged on September 04, 2012, 07:49:33 PM
 It amazes me that Space Venture only just managed to pass the 500k while these guys could well push 700. What is more remarkable is this project cameafter many people had already spent their money on other projects and are begjnning to tire of KS projects. I wonder what it could have done were it a few months earlier to the party.
I knew Broken Sword was popular but had no idea it was this big. 
Title: Re: Other Kickstarter Projects
Post by: s_d on September 06, 2012, 02:49:01 AM
I agree.  I'm all over Broken Sword 5, but there's no way I'll back it as deeply as SpaceVenture.  I may not back it as deeply as QFI either (I put a healthy pledge down here).


A couple of non-video game projects I'm backing, include a graphic novel:

Mars: Daedalus Two
http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1657688528/mars-daedalus-two-a-new-realistic-sci-fi-graphic-n (http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1657688528/mars-daedalus-two-a-new-realistic-sci-fi-graphic-n)
Quote
With my very talented co-writer Ira Livingston, I’ve developed a series of sci-fi stories called the Daedalus Saga. The first graphic novel, Venus: Daedalus One was published in May, 2012. The story centers around an engineer named Dez Clarke and a team of explorers who travel to our deadly neighboring world. Venus is an awful place with scorching 900 degree temperatures, sulphuric acid rain, and a crushing atmosphere. Dez has designed a platform that can float above all of that and allow for research.

Mars is set five years after Venus when Dez Clarke and the exosphere Alpha are forced to steal a nuclear rocket. They travel to the Red Planet to save a group of rogue exospheres who’ve uncovered an ancient mystery. During their journey, they visit some of the biggest geological features in the Solar System -- like Olympus Mons, a volcano the size of Arizona; and Valles Marineris, a canyon that, on Earth, would span the continental United States!

The project closes on September 7th (tomorrow).  One can pick up a DRM-free CBR version of the graphic novel for ten bucks, or both the first (Venus) and the one being kickstarted for fifteen.  I'm pledging for both digital versions, as well as a signed physical print edition of both, which is fifty bucks.


And, I'm also backing a film project:

The Gamers: Hands of Fate
http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/zombieorpheus/the-gamers-hands-of-fate (http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/zombieorpheus/the-gamers-hands-of-fate)

These guys have been producing funny films and web series about role-playing game culture for years, including two "The Gamers" movies and the web series "JourneyQuest".  They're funny and endearing, and I can identify with many of the characters in their shows, from my own tabletop gaming experiences.  As a media entity, these gals & guys are a bit unique in that they release all of their content under Creative Commons licensing, so you pay them to go make the stuff, and everyone can benefit (and remix, share, etc).  And they still make some money off of DVDs & Blu-Rays, even though everything is free to stream on Youtube (mostly in HD, no less).  I want to support their business model, and similar web-distributed content in general.

That's all, you cool cats...  8)
Title: Re: Other Kickstarter Projects
Post by: mitsymckenzie777 on September 15, 2012, 11:14:51 PM
I mentioned this one over at Infamous Adventures forum. Though it is successfully funded I think it will be a great game and news should be spread about it. It's not by me it is created by Jay Pavlina of Exploding Rabbit creator of Super Mario Bros. Crossover. Super Retro Squad is inspired by the old 8 bit games we know and love.

www.kickstarter.com/projects/explodingrabbit/super-retro-squad (http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/explodingrabbit/super-retro-squad)

Title: Re: Other Kickstarter Projects
Post by: Lupin on November 25, 2012, 03:06:11 PM
Whilst it has made it's target (with thanks to Total Biscuit), I want to promote this little gem.

Maia by Simon Roth.
http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1438429768/maia (http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1438429768/maia)

It is basically (to quote the page) Dungeon Keeper meets Dwarf Fortress meets Theme Hospital on a primordial alien world. I have fond memories of playing Dungeon Keeper at my friends house and of playing Theme Hospital (never played Dwarf Fortress) so for there to be a game similar to those that is set in space version just sounds plain awesome.

So if you've got the time, just give it a look. As I've said, it has made it's target, but you might enjoy looking at it
Title: Re: Other Kickstarter Projects
Post by: s_d on November 25, 2012, 06:50:40 PM
Quote from: Lupin on November 25, 2012, 03:06:11 PM
Maia by Simon Roth.

Yep, I backed Simon's vision on launch day, and have eagerly awaited it's emergence.  Good "god game"/RT-management/action-sims are quite rare on my platform (Linux), and as such, I was pretty interested.  Dwarf Fortress is, of course, but it's everywhere.  We've seen similar ideas (notably Introversion Software's new Prison Architect project), but this one has it's own unique features.  He's promising us the most realistic chicken AI in video gaming, for example  :D

These games aren't everyone's cup of tea, of course... but I ought to enjoy it greatly.
Title: Re: Other Kickstarter Projects
Post by: Lambonius on November 28, 2012, 11:47:25 PM
Check this out:

http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2012/11/28/the-kickstarter-successes-where-are-they-now/#more-133320 (http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2012/11/28/the-kickstarter-successes-where-are-they-now/#more-133320)

It's an article talking about all of the various successful $100K+ Kickstarter projects of 2012, and the disappointing states of most of them at this point.  It's an annoying reminder of the head-shakingly poor planning that went into many of the projects started by Sierra veterans like Jane Jensen and Al Lowe.  Hate to say it, but I have to agree pretty much completely with this guy's assessment of those projects.

By comparison, we have put out SO much more content already, and at a fraction of the budget.  People should be throwing money at us!  ;)
Title: Re: Other Kickstarter Projects
Post by: rugged on November 29, 2012, 02:59:23 AM
IA have been very good at releasing info and had more game developed at the launch of there KS then most other adventure projects seem to have months after
. I think one of the problems win traditional publishing methods is that developers get too much pressure to get the game out and this can lead to an inferior product. My fear with KS is that their is not enough pressure to meet deadlines and project times will blow out. When groups miss release dates and don't offer alternative ones it makes me nervous. I fully get that game development can have unexpected delays but I think if  you have a timeframe mapped out of when the work should be done then this should be shared with those who have pre-ordered. This may add pressure to development but that is not always a bad thing.
Title: Re: Other Kickstarter Projects
Post by: Blackthorne on November 29, 2012, 08:20:35 AM
I am amazed at some of the projects that managed to not only get funding - but to get a ton of it.  Some of the ones mentioned in the comments section of that link blow my mind.

We moved our release date because we were able to raise more money, and thus increase the size and scope of the game, but we're working our asses off to get Demo v2.0 out in December, to help show some of the progress we've made on the game - and the new demo really just comprises of a comparatively small amount of work we've done so far...  I know that I have a strong conviction to work hard on the game and keep our backers in the loop.  We've been doing this for years - and even when we didn't get any money for our work, I was always making sure to keep the fans in the loop, and make sure the team worked hard.

I don't know how some of these projects that raised 6 or 7 figures can get away with little to no updates or missing target dates so blatantly without much of an explanation.  To me, if I did that, I would feel awful... and we only raised a fraction of what some of these projects have raised.

I've tried to keep the backers in the loop with updates on Kickstarter, content on Facebook and Twitter - and I've always kept my email door open, and I've tried to answer all questions and emails that come my way, and answer them with a personal touch.  I believe in that kind of service - especially for people who have backed you - many going above and beyond just merely "purchasing" the game.

Kickstarter is a new model of funding for games, and it requires a new model of dealing with the fans (and backers).  I heard people saying stuff like "Did you expect updates from Dragon Age 3's team?"  No!  Because that was a different model!

You're damn right I'm going to keep my backers informed, and I'm going to keep the public at large informed about the game.  Of course, we don't show EVERYTHING that we're doing, because we want to keep some surprise and mystery about the game - so people have things to look forward to in playing it, but it's important for people to know what's going on - even if it's little, minor, or boring.  Hell, I'd do an update talking about game code, equations for stats or even about writing interactions for things - it'd be boring, but it'd be showing what's going on!

Every company/group is going to run things differently, but I think that as Kickstarter is a completely different funding model, the way you handle your PR and communication, with what were once fans and are now financial contributors, has to change too.  Like I said earlier, though, for us (and for me) that method of communication hasn't changed all that much!  I've always loved to get the community and fans involved.  We were lucky that a couple thousand actually put their money where there hearts lie... and we're grateful for the opportunity to make an amazing game for them.


Bt
Title: Re: Other Kickstarter Projects
Post by: Collector on November 29, 2012, 11:38:21 AM
In defense of the Sierra veterans, they were developers, not business men then. That was Ken's job. Perhaps not a real excuse, but does, at least in part, puts it in perspective.
Title: Re: Other Kickstarter Projects
Post by: Lupin on December 26, 2012, 02:11:20 PM
I have yet another Dungeon Keeper type game that I want to promote because this one hasn't made it's target yet at the time of the post, with 8 days to go.

War for the Overworld by Subterranean Games
http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/subterraneangames/war-for-the-overworld (http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/subterraneangames/war-for-the-overworld)

It is essentially going to be Dungeon Keeper 3 using many of the same elements of the series, and it looks really good. The demo is pre Alpha but most of the basic functions are already working.

So as this is one of the slowly becoming rare Kickstarters that actually belongs on Kickstarter, can you guys give it a look please? I am slightly worried this might not make it's target
Title: Re: Other Kickstarter Projects
Post by: s_d on December 29, 2012, 04:29:21 AM
They just made it, Lupin.  You can relax now  8)
Title: Re: Other Kickstarter Projects
Post by: Intendant S on January 22, 2013, 03:02:38 PM
I've already started seeing a bunch of regulars over there (including BT himself), but Ken Allen's music project Under the Half Dome is now live (and 25% funded in only a few hours, too).  If you haven't already done so, check it out here (http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/mrkenallen/under-the-half-dome-an-album-by-sierra-composer-ke?ref=activity).
Title: Re: Other Kickstarter Projects
Post by: Lupin on January 26, 2013, 09:29:16 AM
You have to check this one out, if only for the Kickstarter video itself.

Cryamore!
http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/robaato/cryamore-a-true-first-class-take-on-the-action-rpg (http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/robaato/cryamore-a-true-first-class-take-on-the-action-rpg)

Seriously, this has one of the best Kickstarter videos I have seen in a long time. I would love to explain just what makes it awesome, but it is better if you just see if for yourself
Title: Re: Other Kickstarter Projects
Post by: s_d on February 03, 2013, 05:16:41 AM
And for those of strong intestinal fortitude, here comes Asylum, by Agustín Cordes and his team at Senscape. (https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/agustincordes/asylum-kickstart-the-horror)  I'm pretty sure this is one of those games that I'll buy, start, and be too terrified to actually finish (Amnesia holds that distinction, currently).
Title: Re: Other Kickstarter Projects
Post by: Blackthorne on February 03, 2013, 12:00:00 PM
Yeah - Agustin Cordes is the director on that one, and he's a really good guy.  He's been a supporter of almost every big adventure game kickstarter, including ours, and he's just a nice dude who really likes adventure games.  Supporting Asylum is definitely not just support for the game, but the community at large.


Bt
Title: Re: Other Kickstarter Projects
Post by: rugged on February 12, 2013, 03:11:51 PM
Great to see another high profile adventure succeeding.
https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/redthread/dreamfall-chapters-the-longest-journey?ref=live (https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/redthread/dreamfall-chapters-the-longest-journey?ref=live)
Title: Re: Other Kickstarter Projects
Post by: Blackthorne on February 12, 2013, 03:27:27 PM
Sigh.  What we'd do with a budget like that.


Bt
Title: Re: Other Kickstarter Projects
Post by: rugged on February 12, 2013, 04:04:44 PM
hahah true, although I never played the second one TLJ must have truly been one of the longest adventure games ever produced. If they are building a similar size game then I can see how they will eat through the budget.
Despite not really being the type of story I enjoy I think TLJ is the best adventure I have seen in the last 10 years
Title: Re: Other Kickstarter Projects
Post by: Blackthorne on February 12, 2013, 04:30:32 PM
Yeah, the longest Journey is a great game.  I hope this one lives up to it.  They could easily eat through a budget like that.


Bt
Title: Re: Other Kickstarter Projects
Post by: s_d on February 12, 2013, 05:36:40 PM
So, my other half (The Lurker) was reading RPS's coverage of Dreamfall Chapters, the other day and learned some interesting tidbits.  It turns out that Dreamfall was built in half the budget of TLJ.  Further, that Chapters' Kickstarter target + personal investment + Government grant + some (other?) additional monies, will add up to half the budget of Dreamfall.

All said and done, hovering around a million dollars surely, they must build a modern adventure game as good as, or better, than TLJ with one-fourth the budget.  :o
Title: Re: Other Kickstarter Projects
Post by: Lambonius on February 12, 2013, 06:12:38 PM
Quote from: s_d on February 12, 2013, 05:36:40 PM
a modern adventure game

I have to wonder--what does that even mean??
Title: Re: Other Kickstarter Projects
Post by: s_d on February 12, 2013, 06:52:26 PM
sigh

Good point.

Opposite of retro?  Fully 3D?

It's like asking what "triple A game" means.
Title: Re: Other Kickstarter Projects
Post by: Collector on February 13, 2013, 12:31:50 PM
Quote from: Lambonius on February 12, 2013, 06:12:38 PM
Quote from: s_d on February 12, 2013, 05:36:40 PM
a modern adventure game

I have to wonder--what does that even mean??
I would say at least with very high resolution graphics. In the case of Chapters, probably 3-D.
Title: Re: Other Kickstarter Projects
Post by: Blackthorne on February 13, 2013, 12:34:27 PM
Yeah, I know is almost a pejorative term in the face of what we do, but I definitely do refer to our games as "Retro-Style Adventure Games".

Which doesn't mean our gameplay, story and art-work is any less than theirs, though.


Bt

Title: Re: Other Kickstarter Projects
Post by: Jerminator on February 13, 2013, 12:37:25 PM
Quote from: Lambonius on February 12, 2013, 06:12:38 PM
Quote from: s_d on February 12, 2013, 05:36:40 PM
a modern adventure game

I have to wonder--what does that even mean??

Definitely virtual reality.
Title: Re: Other Kickstarter Projects
Post by: s_d on February 13, 2013, 09:25:52 PM
Quote from: Blackthorne on February 13, 2013, 12:34:27 PM
Yeah, I know is almost a pejorative term in the face of what we do...

I guess, but I don't necessarily see "modern" necessarily as a compliment either.  Just an adjective describing an (obviously vague) theme or aesthetic.  In regards to the arts, it means various things, but in regards to games, to me (soapbox) it simply means defining the game's audiovisual style by using the most current technology at your disposal that can be budgeted in, either to tell stories can be told which, perhaps, couldn't be told..  or just because.  Games that fall in the latter category are, in my mind, the rule, not the exception.

I don't need to tell a group of classic adventure gamers that there is beauty in boiling an epic story down to it's integral parts, and then building up supporting characteristics around that core.

For the record (now that I have to defend myself! AVAST!) ... I truly feel that this team has worked within the constraints of the template left us by Sierra, and produced a product that feels lush & colorful, deep & moody, while packing in at least one grin enducing quip (often several) in each area.  That can't be easy, nor cheap, and I respect you all enormously for it.  If I didn't feel strongly about this design aesthetic, firmly rooted in memory, nor believe that you folks would be true to it, I wouldn't have pledged, nor continue to volunteer my time  :)

On the contrary, it's a pleasure.
Title: Re: Other Kickstarter Projects
Post by: s_d on February 13, 2013, 09:26:27 PM
Quote from: Jerminator on February 13, 2013, 12:37:25 PM
Definitely virtual reality.

The next Leisure Suit Larry, an Oculus Rift exclusive.
Title: Re: Other Kickstarter Projects
Post by: Lambonius on February 14, 2013, 08:47:51 AM
Quote from: Jerminator on February 13, 2013, 12:37:25 PM
Quote from: Lambonius on February 12, 2013, 06:12:38 PM
Quote from: s_d on February 12, 2013, 05:36:40 PM
a modern adventure game

I have to wonder--what does that even mean??

Definitely virtual reality.

Hahaha...you clever bastard.  ;)
Title: Re: Other Kickstarter Projects
Post by: Chadly on April 26, 2013, 11:13:07 AM
    What are your most anticipated Kickstarter games to be released?  My list is long and distinguished kind of like my.........hair!  Here is my top 5.    1. Quest for Infamy.  2. Spaceventure.  3. Leisure suit Larry Reloaded.  4.  Hero U.  5.  Wasteland 2.  So bring on the gaming goodness!  Retro style games are back!  Hurray!! :)
Title: Re: Other Kickstarter Projects
Post by: Intendant S on May 28, 2013, 08:57:48 PM
Damn, forgot about this thread.  Here's a few adventure game projects currently running:

Title: Re: Other Kickstarter Projects
Post by: janx on June 01, 2013, 07:32:51 PM
Hey,

I have kicked the majority of the games mentioned here, and I am l pumped ( meaning spent more than my wife would care to know) on some of them, whilst others I chipped in the minimum just to have a look, however, what I would like to know is; what are you playing right now, whilst waiting (agonizingly) for all these games to be released?
Title: Re: Other Kickstarter Projects
Post by: Klytos on June 01, 2013, 10:14:28 PM
Funny enough, the first games I've played in a while because I've been working on QFI have been a few of the Sierra titles (which I picked up really cheap on GoG.)

Gave Gabriel Knight I a crack again, still don't like it. Too wordy.

Have been having a good laugh at LSL7 and just played through SQ4 again.

I've also started The Longest Journey, which I had never played before and I LOVE!
Title: Re: Other Kickstarter Projects
Post by: Quest For Glory Fan on June 01, 2013, 11:21:48 PM
I found dreamfall to be wordier than GK but that's just me. I recently tried playing Sam and Max hit the road. Is it just me or was that game particularly difficult?
Title: Re: Other Kickstarter Projects
Post by: Intendant S on June 02, 2013, 12:44:05 AM
I've been spending a lot of time lately in the beta for Leisure Suit Larry: Reloaded making sure that it'll be as bug free as possible when it releases.
Title: Re: Other Kickstarter Projects
Post by: Lambonius on June 02, 2013, 01:12:57 AM
Quote from: Quest For Glory Fan on June 01, 2013, 11:21:48 PM
I found dreamfall to be wordier than GK but that's just me. I recently tried playing Sam and Max hit the road. Is it just me or was that game particularly difficult?

It's just you.  ;)  Nah, all the classic Lucasarts games were at least reasonably challenging.  I don't recall any of them being overly difficult or obscure though, at least not in the way some of the Sierra puzzles were.  Sam & Max has a few clever spots, but never anything that stretches the bounds of logic.  Personally, I think it's one of Lucasarts' very best.

I also thought TLJ was at least as wordy as GK, if not more.  My problem with GK stems not so much from the wordiness as it does from the fact that the story is just kinda boring, in my opinion.  It's nowhere near as bad as GK2 though.  *shudder*

As for me and classic games, I recently bought Baldur's Gate 1 and 2 from GoG and have been trying to get into the first one, but I just don't know if I have the patience for it.  It seems overly complicated given how bland the graphics are.  Don't know if I'm going to be able to do it.  :)
Title: Re: Other Kickstarter Projects
Post by: Intendant S on June 02, 2013, 01:34:28 AM
I tried Baldur's Gate during the Project Eternity Kickstarter.  I got about halfway through before I gave up.  The plot wasn't engaging enough for me.
Title: Re: Other Kickstarter Projects
Post by: Klytos on June 02, 2013, 02:34:09 AM
BGII is much superior to the first one. I very much enjoyed it, as well as Dragonshard and Demon Stone. They're both pretty good RPG's.
Title: Re: Other Kickstarter Projects
Post by: Quest For Glory Fan on June 02, 2013, 10:12:20 AM
There's also a modding guide that puts Baldur's Gate 1 into 2 and makes it one massive game using the engine of the second one. It is a very complex system but the more you play with it the easier it seems to get. It's more of a tactical battler than anything I've played.

edit: here, dug it up. http://www.reddit.com/r/gaming/comments/cebua/step_by_step_moddingguide_turn_baldurs_gate_and/ (http://www.reddit.com/r/gaming/comments/cebua/step_by_step_moddingguide_turn_baldurs_gate_and/)
Title: Re: Other Kickstarter Projects
Post by: Blackthorne on June 02, 2013, 11:00:03 AM
That is awesome, QFGFan


Bt
Title: Re: Other Kickstarter Projects
Post by: Intendant S on June 02, 2013, 03:47:16 PM
A Vampyre Story: Year One (http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/876324751/a-vampyre-story-year-one) is a humorous point-and-click adventure where you play as Mona De Laffite as she wanders Castle Warg and tries to escape it. It is a prequel to the original A Vampyre Story and it promises to tell the story leading up to it.
Title: Re: Other Kickstarter Projects
Post by: SarahLiz on June 03, 2013, 12:50:08 AM
Quote from: Quest For Glory Fan on June 01, 2013, 11:21:48 PM
I found dreamfall to be wordier than GK but that's just me. I recently tried playing Sam and Max hit the road. Is it just me or was that game particularly difficult?

Hey there Quest For GLory Fan (or anyone who knows)!  May I ask, how did you get ahold of the old Sam & Max game?  If it's not on GoG then I'm pretty much crap outta luck getting those really old games to work on my computer (even with SCUMM or DosBox, etc...)  But I was just curious if there was a way (or place) to play or download it that I wasn't thinking of...

Sam & Max is one of the FEW old classic adventure games that I never got around to playing and I'd LOVE to be able to try it out!


~Sarah
Title: Re: Other Kickstarter Projects
Post by: Lambonius on June 03, 2013, 01:07:58 AM
Basically, your options are ebay or abandonware.  And you'll have to do some digging to find it via the latter route.  Good thing we don't have mongoloid mods who ban at the mere mention of piracy here.
Title: Re: Other Kickstarter Projects
Post by: DrSlash on June 03, 2013, 07:59:08 AM
Quote from: Lambonius on June 03, 2013, 01:07:58 AM
Basically, your options are ebay or abandonware.  And you'll have to do some digging to find it via the latter route.  Good thing we don't have mongoloid mods who ban at the mere mention of piracy here.
Exactly. It's the right owner's fault, if they don't provide any other options rather than pirating their game, IMO.
Title: Re: Other Kickstarter Projects
Post by: DrSlash on June 03, 2013, 12:24:11 PM
Anyway, back to the original question by janx - it's easier to name the games that I haven't been playing recently...

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BHQg-FiCMAM0PG5.png:large)

You know, there are about 50 games in my steam library and 20 games on GoG.com that I haven't even tried yet! Mostly because I don't have enough time for that. Especially now, since I'm having exams during the nearest two or three weeks.
Title: Re: Other Kickstarter Projects
Post by: SarahLiz on June 03, 2013, 03:25:38 PM
Quote from: Lambonius on June 03, 2013, 01:07:58 AM
Basically, your options are ebay or abandonware.  And you'll have to do some digging to find it via the latter route.  Good thing we don't have mongoloid mods who ban at the mere mention of piracy here.

(Sorry to veer back to my issue again)...but just wanted to say I found a great site at THE INTERWEBS AND STUFF where you can pay a very tiny one-time fee (well, it's for 30 days anyway), and they have HUNDREDS of old classic adventure games to download--that actually will run on newer systems!  That abandonware site & others like it usually do not end up being able to run on my computer.  So I'm finally gonna get to play both Sam n' Max AND replay some goodies that I've never been able to ever replay...Dagger of Amon Ra, Freddy Pharkas, Discworld, Sherlock Holmes, Ecoquest, Full Throttle...woo!!!!  I'm in heaven...as antsy as I've been for QFI to be completed, this will definitely help to tide me over. 

Ok, rambling done.  It's just really cool.  Ha-- I am sounding so NOT cool.   ::)

Title: Re: Other Kickstarter Projects
Post by: DrSlash on June 03, 2013, 03:32:19 PM
Funnily enough, THE INTERWEBS AND STUFF (which is basically a Russian analog of the English one) is completely free, hehe. But you'll need google translate or something to use it. And yeah, they only post games that are abandoned by their right owners, and thus it's not piracy (from my point of view).
Figured I should mention that some of the games from the Russian web-site are only considered abandonware on Russian territory (because they've never been published here). So I'd recommend to make sure the games aren't available on steam/gog.com etc. before downloading them from there.
Title: Re: Other Kickstarter Projects
Post by: Intendant S on June 03, 2013, 06:07:56 PM
Awesome!  I've got to check out that site.  There's plenty of old adventures that I never got the chance to play that haven't been released on Steam or GoG yet.
Title: Re: Other Kickstarter Projects
Post by: Goatmeal on June 03, 2013, 06:49:10 PM
Haven't been playing too many games lately...

In an effort to put off the impending eventuality that is Windows 8 (Yuck!  :P), I finally broke down and bought a maxed-out Windows 7 PC.  I now have the fun of getting it operational, transferring 11 years-worth of files and programs from my current machine: a Pentium 4 / 2.4 GHz XP computer from 2002 (which was pretty much maxed out for its time).

Aside from waiting for various Kickstarter games from ex-Sierra peeps and IQ & AGDI, I am looking forward to replaying games from the last 5-10 years with the graphics settings maxed out, which I certainly couldn't do with my old machine (which uses an AGP graphics card)...

Half-Life 2, I'm looking at you!   :D
Title: Re: Other Kickstarter Projects
Post by: Quest For Glory Fan on June 04, 2013, 11:13:24 AM
Quote from: SarahLiz on June 03, 2013, 12:50:08 AM
Quote from: Quest For Glory Fan on June 01, 2013, 11:21:48 PM
I found dreamfall to be wordier than GK but that's just me. I recently tried playing Sam and Max hit the road. Is it just me or was that game particularly difficult?

Hey there Quest For GLory Fan (or anyone who knows)!  May I ask, how did you get ahold of the old Sam & Max game?  If it's not on GoG then I'm pretty much crap outta luck getting those really old games to work on my computer (even with SCUMM or DosBox, etc...)  But I was just curious if there was a way (or place) to play or download it that I wasn't thinking of...

Sam & Max is one of the FEW old classic adventure games that I never got around to playing and I'd LOVE to be able to try it out!


~Sarah

I had a copy of the Lucas Arts Archives for most of my old games but i prefer to do a lot of my pointing and my clicking on the mac these days. I found a really cool way to do it too. KLYTOS IS GREAT Anyways if one were to type in BUY QUEST FOR INFAMY TWICE, they'd see some scoundrel has actually wine wrapped a TON (and I mean atleast 200) 90s games of all genres from Day of the Tentacle to Simcity2000 to work on OSX. There's more LA than Sierra in there which is great because GoG is mostly sierra and not so much Lucas Arts.
Title: Re: Other Kickstarter Projects
Post by: SarahLiz on June 04, 2013, 04:30:44 PM
That's really cool news for all you Mac users, thanks QFGFan!
Title: Re: Other Kickstarter Projects
Post by: Intendant S on June 04, 2013, 06:31:59 PM
Now on Indigogo: Fleish & Cherry in Crazy Hotel (http://www.kickstartadventure.com/home/now-on-indigogo-fleish-cherry-in-crazy-hotel/) by Red Little House Studios
"Do you pine for the good ol’ days when cartoons were in black and white? Are you a fan of adventure games? Well, that answer is obvious if you’re already here. Fleish and Cherry looks like it will be a nice trip down memory lane all wrapped up in an interactive action-adventure story. With a twist. Instead of the traditional “damsel-in-distress” plotline, the male lead is instead the one captured and the heroine has to step in to save him."
Title: Re: Other Kickstarter Projects
Post by: Quest For Glory Fan on June 04, 2013, 11:33:17 PM
Quote from: SarahLiz on June 04, 2013, 04:30:44 PM
That's really cool news for all you Mac users, thanks QFGFan!

that's not to say it doesn't also work for the PC but you have to DOSbox em yourself in most cases.
Title: Re: Other Kickstarter Projects
Post by: Klytos on June 05, 2013, 07:28:44 PM
Hey guys, just a heads-up that I edited a few posts above to remove some links. While my personal point of view says "go for it!" because they're simply not available anywhere else, the reality is that these games are owned by someone and unlike a trademark, they don't slip into public domain just because they're old or not available to purchase.

So we can't allow links to pirated software on IQ.

Thanks for being awesome!

Shawn
Title: Re: Other Kickstarter Projects
Post by: Lambonius on June 05, 2013, 08:08:09 PM
Heh...I was wondering about that, myself.  Figured I'd leave it up to one of you Big Cheeses, though. ;)
Title: Re: Other Kickstarter Projects
Post by: SarahLiz on June 05, 2013, 11:00:53 PM
I totally understand...sorry for being one of the "deviants" to put pirated software links out there.  I guess I (ignorantly) assumed that because I paid money to buy these games, that it was going to the original game creators or companies.  Or maybe I just wanted to believe that.  Definitely my bad, should have been paying more attention.


 :-[
Title: Re: Other Kickstarter Projects
Post by: Quest For Glory Fan on June 06, 2013, 12:26:50 AM
I thought it was true in the US that if you owned them you could download them as part of "backup" and that's how they were allowed in the first place. I know that's the rule in Canada at least, but we also allow drinking at 19. In anycase it's not particularly hard to find what you're looking for. Sorry to IQ for not using enough tact.
Title: Re: Other Kickstarter Projects
Post by: Goatmeal on June 06, 2013, 08:52:39 AM
Quote from: Quest For Glory Fan on June 06, 2013, 12:26:50 AM
I thought it was true in the US that if you owned them you could download them as part of "backup" and that's how they were allowed in the first place.

* Please note I am not offering legal advise in any capacity; I am simply theorizing based on my very limited knowledge and understanding about a very complex subject.

Due to the frail nature of the magnetic media, you could make your OWN back-up copy back in the diskette days, but I'm not sure about downloading from a third-party.  The whole point about the back-up was you didn't install it on someone else's computer or in turn give/"sell on the cheap" the back-up to someone else so they avoided buying a copy.  I don't believe someone could distribute or transfer "their" copy to you, which is what piracy amounts to...

I would imagine it's contingent on the fact you can prove you have the original media / documentation in your physical possession, like an original CD-ROM that is scratched-up or a broken original floppy disk that won't read anymore.

Conversely, "It's somewhere in my parent's basement" or "I bought it years ago, but my friend lost it" are probably NOT very good defenses...
Title: Re: Other Kickstarter Projects
Post by: SarahLiz on June 06, 2013, 09:43:25 AM
Quote from: Goatmeal on June 06, 2013, 08:52:39 AM
Quote from: Quest For Glory Fan on June 06, 2013, 12:26:50 AM
I thought it was true in the US that if you owned them you could download them as part of "backup" and that's how they were allowed in the first place.

* Please note I am not offering legal advise in any capacity; I am simply theorizing based on my very limited knowledge and understanding about a very complex subject.

Due to the frail nature of the magnetic media, you could make your OWN back-up copy back in the diskette days, but I'm not sure about downloading from a third-party.  The whole point about the back-up was you didn't install it on someone else's computer or in turn sell the back-up to someone else so they avoided buying a copy.  I don't believe someone could distribute or transfer "their" copy to you, which is what piracy amounts to...

I would imagine it's contingent on the fact you can prove you have the original media / documentation in your physical possession, like an original CD-ROM that is scratched-up or a broken original floppy disk that won't read anymore.

Conversely, "It's somewhere in my parent's basement" or "I bought it years ago, but my friend lost it" are probably NOT very good defenses...


Yeah...interestingly enough, I do have almost all of the games I downloaded in my possession...old floppies & CD-ROMs that just won't run on newer systems...I don't even know why I keep them, save for just pure nostalgia purposes.   :P
Title: Re: Other Kickstarter Projects
Post by: Goatmeal on June 06, 2013, 10:02:28 AM
Quote from: SarahLiz on June 06, 2013, 09:43:25 AM
Yeah...interestingly enough, I do have almost all of the games I downloaded in my possession...old floppies & CD-ROMs that just won't run on newer systems...I don't even know why I keep them, save for just pure nostalgia purposes.   :P

You should definitely install DOSBox.  You can play DOS and Win3.x games (providing you have Win 3.x install diskettes) on any computer modern computer.

A few years ago, before I knew about DOSBox, I bought a 486 machine specifically to play these old games.  Now, I can play them on any machine, fast or slow!

It took me a while to understand the particulars and concepts, but I'm sure we could help you to get it going...  We have some pretty smart people here.   :D
Title: Re: Other Kickstarter Projects
Post by: Chadly on June 06, 2013, 03:04:40 PM
  I checked out the said site listed above.  They have thousands of old games to download for a small fee.  This seems totally illegal, but they seem to get away with it.  I have to wonder if it is like buying used games on Amazon or EBay.  The games do work but I'd be worried about viruses and spyware, like downloading any abandonware product. I will stick to GoG in the future. ;)
Title: Re: Other Kickstarter Projects
Post by: Intendant S on June 06, 2013, 03:14:13 PM
Currently Kickstarting: Alum by Micah Orsie (http://www.kickstartadventure.com/home/currently-kickstarting-alum/)
"There have already been a number of retro Sierra- and Lucasarts-style adventure games Kickstarted over the past year, so why not add another one to the list? Micah Orsie and the people at Crashable Studios has just gone live with a classic point-and-click adventure game called Alum. You play as the titular character as he goes on a quest to find the cure to an epidemic dubbed “the vague” that has befallen the people of his city of Cosmos."
Title: Re: Other Kickstarter Projects
Post by: Intendant S on June 06, 2013, 03:17:37 PM
Yeah, I'm a bit wary about that site myself.  Better to stick with services that I know and trust like Steam and GoG.
Title: Re: Other Kickstarter Projects
Post by: Intendant S on June 26, 2013, 03:07:50 PM
When you think of American McGee you generally think Alice.  So who better to create a darker and more disturbing Oz than him?  Just like his previous games, this isn’t your grandmother’s fantasy story.  No, OZombie (http://www.kickstartadventure.com/home/currently-kickstarting-ozombie/) is so much more than what you’ve read or seen.  Little has been revealed about the plot, but what I’ve seen leaves me breathless.  And they promise an action-adventure experience that should make fans of American’s other works happy.
Title: Re: Other Kickstarter Projects
Post by: Lambonius on June 26, 2013, 03:28:35 PM
What's that, you say?

A light-hearted children's story re-imagined to be Dark and GrittyTM?

Oh?  And it's going to have zombies, too??

How can this possibly suck???  ;)
Title: Re: Other Kickstarter Projects
Post by: Lambonius on June 26, 2013, 03:33:15 PM
In all seriousness, I liked Alice, and the Wizard of Oz seems like a logical choice for the American McGee treatment, but I can't help but feel that what worked and was cool back when Alice came out has become incredibly tired and worn out now that it's 2013 and we've been seeing this sort of thing in every conceivable major fantasy, science fiction, and adventure franchise for the past decade.  Color me very skeptical.
Title: Re: Other Kickstarter Projects
Post by: Blackthorne on June 26, 2013, 05:44:05 PM
I couldn't agree more.

Bt
Title: Re: Other Kickstarter Projects
Post by: Intendant S on June 26, 2013, 06:50:40 PM
I actually like the idea of a classic turned upside-down.  And it's not your traditional zombie story, either.  If it was, I wouldn't have backed it at all.  It's more of a social commentary than a horror fest.
Title: Re: Other Kickstarter Projects
Post by: Blackthorne on June 26, 2013, 07:06:07 PM
Honestly, all Zombie stuff, since Romero, has been social commentary over horror.  And the trope of turning the classic story on it's head by making it dark and gritty?  It's old and tired.... The art for Ozombie looks great, but honestly, the game is as interesting and original to me as a can of government cheese.


Bt
Title: Re: Other Kickstarter Projects
Post by: Lambonius on June 26, 2013, 07:24:52 PM
Quote from: Blackthorne on June 26, 2013, 07:06:07 PM
a can of government cheese.



Oh no you DIDN'T!!!

1:36

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DX6qTD03UlI# (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DX6qTD03UlI#)
Title: Re: Other Kickstarter Projects
Post by: rugged on July 28, 2013, 11:11:53 PM
So I was chep and never backed space venture. But I see they have recently released a backer demo. Just wondering what people thought of it? How polished is it and does it give you a lot of faith in the finished product
Title: Re: Other Kickstarter Projects
Post by: s_d on August 03, 2013, 02:52:01 AM
I liked it.  It was super short, and the interface was "streamlined", with elements that you'd expect from an adventure game looking toward a tablet interface, and more than a few bugs.  It looks like a tech demo, a true vertical-slice, with some areas more polished than others.

In general, the level of polish was quite inconsistent, varying from "oops, that was odd" to "WOW... that's basically finalized!".  For example, all the custom fonts were in place, backgrounds looked pretty final with proper anti-aliasing, but some of the environment effects and animation triggers need work.  The animations themselves are very nice;  their animation team are definitely pros.

The opening animatic was great, and the sound-design is coming together nicely.  Unfortunately, their development schedule has voices coming in near the end of production, so there are none (perhaps due to the Two Guys roots in triple-A development, where voices are recorded last?).  Maybe it's a Linux demo bug, haha!

It is missing a TON of the writing, and there is lots of placeholder text, aside from it being very short (perhaps shorter than this forum post), so it's a bit difficult to evaluate exactly what the final product is going to be like.  However, from what was there, the tone of Scott's writing is definitely present, the music sounds like Ken Allen at his best, and the player-controllable Rooter character adds a "buddy adventure" mechanic which is really cool.

Beyond that, I can't really give you any semblance of objectivity.  I have a double dose of subjective distortion on that project.  First, I'm such a horrible SQ fanboy, I had a hard time not giggling with glee while the demo was still downloading, and leaving it up and running in the title screen to hear the music a few times over.  Second, I backed that project past the point of confirmation bias, so through the lens of my pledge it's easy for me to dismiss flaws that others may have a problem with.

I think it's going to be an awesome and funny game, and that you should go to guysfromandromeda.com/store/ and give the Two Guys your $15 pre-order, not so much because my opinion should be trusted, but because doing so will make me happy.  Then I will say "thank you, rugged!".  I know that your pre-order money will go toward making the game better.
Title: Re: Other Kickstarter Projects
Post by: Intendant S on August 07, 2013, 12:54:14 AM
Do you remember the days when you’d hear the line “It’s dangerous to go alone! Take this”?  While there have been a couple action-adventure games covered in a “Currently Kickstarting” article, none have captured the charm of the early days of the likes of the original Legend of Zelda games.  Sword ‘N’ Board (http://www.kickstartadventure.com/home/currently-kickstarting-sword-n-board/) looks to be one more game that will tickle your nostalgic bone.  Instead of a point-and-click romp through a Sierra or LucasArts style game, you’re hacking and slashing your way through dungeons.
Title: Re: Other Kickstarter Projects
Post by: janx on August 07, 2013, 04:59:49 AM
It looks as if Sonny Bonds will be staying retired and wont be making any cameos in Precinct.

I am not sure about this alternate funding model. Your thoughts?

Title: Re: Other Kickstarter Projects
Post by: Klytos on August 07, 2013, 08:44:14 AM
My thoughts: I'd like to start off by saying PQ2 is in my top five adventure games. Hell, I was gonna remake it at one point back in the Infamous Adventures days! I have nothing but respect for Jim Walls, and I was really looking forward to playing Precinct. Even the name itself is awesome! Now for the bad points...

Here's where I think they went wrong.

They did not update or interact with the community nearly enough. Their daily updates were a great idea, but they weren't updated as statuses and people don't go back to the main page when they've pledged already.

Their tiers were just confusing. In their defense, KS doesn't allow you to edit your tiers once they're pledged to so to rectify their mistakes made the whole thing a big ass mess. But these things should be sorted before you launch.

Not enough information about the game itself. Nice screenshots, but is it an adventure game or a strategic action style game? That alone was enough to stop a lot of people pledging because their audience is Police Quest fans, the people who recognise Jim's name are Sierra / Adventure Game / PQ fans. So by even intimating that it won't be an adventure game, you put off a big chunk of your potential audience. A big name on a project doesn't mean you'll get your money, look at David Crane!

Swag! This isn't exclusive to them, and I think backers as well as designers are now seeing KS way wrong. The point of Kickstarter is to back a group of people to make something. In this case a game. It isn't to pre-order a game. It isn't to get a big pile of stuff in return. It's to help a game be made. Not sold. Created. It's fair to get a copy of the project if you've backed it, of course. And higher backers should certainly get more thanks from the creators for their help. For example one of our biggest backers Nidoking is a Producer on QFI, with full access to the production website, online chats, meetings etc. But the point is that backing a project is about you wanting to see that project created!

All that said, Precinct said in their update announcing the end of their KS that $200k was put aside for the swag. $200 000. That, my friends, is a hell of a lot of money. Minus 10% for fees at $40k that only leaves $260k for the game. If the game is solid and people want it, then it would make the money. If it's not, no amount of free stuff is going to bribe enough people to back it.

That sort of money and time required to actually get it all produced and shipped should be spent making a game.

As I said above, I love the idea and concept of the game and I truly hope they can get a PQ style game made!

Shawn
Title: Re: Other Kickstarter Projects
Post by: Intendant S on August 07, 2013, 11:02:18 AM
I agree with Klytos on all but one point.  The swag (whether digital or physical) is there to entice people to up their pledges.  If they weren't there then nobody outside of the rabid fans would give more than required to "pre-order" the product.  Yes, it's supposed to be for funding the end product, but there still should be that carrot-on-a-stick.  The fact that fans were begging for a physical copy of Precinct shows this.

Now, I do agree that too many people nowadays treat Kickstarter, IndiGoGo, and other crowdfunding sources as a pre-order store.  And that's not what it's for.  Still, add-ons and higher tiers help to squeeze just a little bit more out of our wallets.  I'll use Alice: Otherlands as a recent example.  For $65 they were offering limited canvas print runs of artwork for the shorts.  And people were grabbing them like they were going out of style.  Hell, I put in for one, myself.  Or what about in-game cameos?  They're a major selling point, especially for the biggest fans.  I wouldn't have given as much as I did for QFI if it wasn't for that promise of immortalizing myself in pixel form.
Title: Re: Other Kickstarter Projects
Post by: Lambonius on August 07, 2013, 12:11:48 PM
I think there's a big difference between in-game rewards (sprite/portrait cameos, a password to access hidden content, etc.) and physical stuff that you have to pay a bunch extra to create, ship, etc.  In our case, for example, a lot of the backer sprites are being used for characters that would have been in the game anyway--they just have a backer's face now.  So it's not really a huge extra burden on us to be able to create them.  We still would have had to make Tyr Council sprites and prisoner sprites for Rayford's dungeon, for example.

From what I've heard, Mage's Initiation has run into similar issues, where the cost of all their swag--the figurines, the cloth maps, etc, has actually taken money away from resource creation for the actual game.  That kind of thing can be a real problem if project creators aren't careful.

As for Precinct's new funding model:

(http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t97/Lambonius/971873-facepalm_display_super.jpg)
Title: Re: Other Kickstarter Projects
Post by: sickfiction on August 07, 2013, 12:17:21 PM
Quote from: Intendant S on August 07, 2013, 11:02:18 AM
I wouldn't have given as much as I did for QFI if it wasn't for that promise of immortalizing myself in pixel form.
This doesn't have any real extra production cost. I don't really understand where the 200k was going to go. It wasn't like. "pledge 5k and You'll get a copy of the game and a genuine used police car." it was just not so well thought out.
Title: Re: Other Kickstarter Projects
Post by: Intendant S on August 07, 2013, 03:45:13 PM
My point was that whether the reward is physical or digital there has to be something to entice backers to up their pledge.  I'm well aware that digital goodies (such as the aforementioned sprites) don't cost much to make and is one reason why some people prefer to back at purely digital tiers.

As for the $200K for rewards on Precinct's part...well, I don't really get it.  It would be more understandable if they had more physical goodies, but I don't really remember seeing any...at least not at the tiers that I was looking at.
Title: Re: Other Kickstarter Projects
Post by: Lambonius on August 07, 2013, 05:54:14 PM
This new funding model reads like a bad joke.  At least Kickstarter has some basic consumer protections built-in.  This idea of theirs is just insulting.
Title: Re: Other Kickstarter Projects
Post by: Blackthorne on August 07, 2013, 07:31:32 PM
Woof.  Yeah, the press on this move is not to great, either.

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2013-08-07-police-quest-spiritual-successor-cancels-kickstarter-starts-crazy-new-crowdfunding-campaign (http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2013-08-07-police-quest-spiritual-successor-cancels-kickstarter-starts-crazy-new-crowdfunding-campaign)

You know, I'm just going to say this here - I don't think Robert Lindsley knew how to run or manage this campaign at all. He may have done good things at Sierra back in the day, but he did not have any kind of idea how to navigate Kickstarter, the fans or the marketplace for that kind of game.  He seemed to have chosen a game he thought would have mass appeal, but the kind of people that want a Jim Walls game didn't really want what they were offering, for one.  People literally posted pages of good advice, but all they ever got was the double-speak line of "We're listening, and we're working on it..." yet they really did nothing to change their campaign much, or directly address the concerns of the backers.  There was nothing wrong with Kickstarter - there was a problem with the pitch of the game.

I do honestly feel that if they'd gone for a more modest sum and a more modest title - and perhaps teamed up with Himalaya Studios like many in the community wanted, they'd have had a hit on their hands.  Hard to say, though, because they never tried.  This attempt, and it's continuation, just aren't working - and I think Jim Walls may have put his eggs in the wrong basket.


Bt
Title: Re: Other Kickstarter Projects
Post by: Intendant S on August 07, 2013, 07:56:16 PM
With Rudy Marchant as the community manager, I hope that they manage to turn things around and actually make Precinct a success.  At the same time, though, I'm not holding my breath.  Or opening my wallet until I see more going on that addresses mine and others' concerns.  There's just too many turn-offs for me.  I barely felt like backing as it was to begin with, but with this clusterf*** I've lost almost all passion that I might have still had.
Title: Re: Other Kickstarter Projects
Post by: Klytos on August 07, 2013, 08:26:34 PM
Yeah sorry Intendant S, I was kinda talking about physical stuff more than digital in my late-night rant there. Look, I do think that some swag is important because as you said it entices to people to up a pledge to a higher tier, but I think that too much swag takes away from the project. Also swag should have something to do with the game! We did a big box because it's offering people what they want. Plus we were always planning on selling a limited number of them after release.
Title: Re: Other Kickstarter Projects
Post by: Chadly on August 08, 2013, 06:33:34 PM
     I have to agree with both Klytos and Intendant S on Precinct.  My biggest complaint and the reason I won't support it financial wise, is it seems to be a first person shooter. I am fed up/tired of these types of games. I say go back to the old style side scroller type game (such as pq2, QFG, etc).  I would like to see the game made and its my hope they get the funding they need.  However if you go to their website they have less is pledges than they did before they killed their Kickstarter.  Sad sad sad.
Title: Re: Other Kickstarter Projects
Post by: Lambonius on August 08, 2013, 09:26:42 PM
I think their new funding method is really rubbing a lot of people the wrong way (as it should, frankly.)  If Jim Walls really wants to make a new Police Quest successor game, he should get in touch with one of the established groups, like Replay or even Pinkerton Road, and get them on board with the project.  That's the only way I could see this thing being made at this point, and I still think that's a huge long shot.
Title: Re: Other Kickstarter Projects
Post by: rugged on August 13, 2013, 09:08:18 PM
Let's be honest an old dude fronting a gaming pitch is always going to struggle unless it is supported by an existing team.

I think the two major traps for team on kickstarter are too much physical swag and poorly thought out stretch goals. Often the amount they ask for is barely enough  for the game anyway then when they exceed it they need to add all kinds of extras, when they still barely have the budget for the raw game
Title: Re: Other Kickstarter Projects
Post by: Intendant S on August 15, 2013, 04:48:14 PM
The mind is such a complicated thing.  People have been diving into the human psyche for ages, trying to plumb its depths and unlock its secrets.  Which is why it comes as to no surprise that psychological horror is such a popular subgenre in media these days.  The latest adventure addition to the Kickstarter stables is Shades of Sanity (http://www.kickstartadventure.com/home/currently-kickstarting-shades-of-sanity/), a contender for surreal and maddening awesomeness.
Title: Re: Other Kickstarter Projects
Post by: Lambonius on August 15, 2013, 09:56:07 PM
So how about that Precinct AMA?  Cleared everyone's concerns right up, didn't it?  ;)
Title: Re: Other Kickstarter Projects
Post by: Intendant S on August 15, 2013, 10:13:09 PM
Quote from: Lambonius on August 15, 2013, 09:56:07 PM
So how about that Precinct AMA?  Cleared everyone's concerns right up, didn't it?  ;)

I can smell sarcasm a mile away and that reeks of it.   ;D

Seriously, though, it did nothing to answer my questions but left me no doubt that it's not worth backing.   :o
Title: Re: Other Kickstarter Projects
Post by: Intendant S on August 22, 2013, 01:07:12 PM
Bureaucracy. Red tape. Conspiracies.  What do these things have in common besides being major annoyances?  Well, for one man it’s his continued existence.  Both in a literal and figurative sense.  The latest in a growing stable of adventure games coming out of IndiGoGo is Conspirocracy (http://www.kickstartadventure.com/home/now-on-indigogo-conspirocracy-2/), a tale of intrigue and paperwork.  “The truth, it seems, is rarely pure and never simple.”
Title: Re: Other Kickstarter Projects
Post by: Intendant S on August 22, 2013, 05:54:21 PM
Elementary, My Dear Holmes! (http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1375982935/elementary-my-dear-holmes)

A point-and-click adventure game starring legendary sidekick John Watson on an epic quest to prove that Sherlock Holmes is just a jerk.
Title: Re: Other Kickstarter Projects
Post by: alexkidd on August 22, 2013, 09:42:01 PM
Fran Bow (http://www.indiegogo.com/projects/fran-bow-a-very-creepy-point-click-adventure-game)

A horror adventure game made by 2 people(Natalia & Isak). The demo is quite impressive.
Title: Re: Other Kickstarter Projects
Post by: Blackthorne on August 23, 2013, 09:35:46 AM
Quote from: alexkidd on August 22, 2013, 09:42:01 PM
Fran Bow ([url]http://www.indiegogo.com/projects/fran-bow-a-very-creepy-point-click-adventure-game[/url])

A horror adventure game made by 2 people(Natalia & Isak). The demo is quite impressive.


Yeah, Fran Bow looks really interesting.  Almost like a bit of Edward Goery come to life - I have to be honest, it's really not my taste, but the creators have made something special here.  It made it's goal, and it continues to go on, so that's super awesome!


Bt
Title: Re: Other Kickstarter Projects
Post by: Intendant S on August 23, 2013, 10:41:21 AM
Quote from: alexkidd on August 22, 2013, 09:42:01 PM
Fran Bow ([url]http://www.indiegogo.com/projects/fran-bow-a-very-creepy-point-click-adventure-game[/url])

A horror adventure game made by 2 people(Natalia & Isak). The demo is quite impressive.


I've played many games that have dark themes, both psychological and supernatural horror.  Several that have "crap yourself" moments.  But never before have I been so disturbed by even the demo of a game that I think it gave me nightmares (that's the dedication I have for KickstartVentures...which makes me wonder why I forgot to mention this one here).  So, yeah.  I'm so happy that they managed to get funding even though I might not even buy it retail.
Title: Re: Other Kickstarter Projects
Post by: Intendant S on August 26, 2013, 06:53:25 PM
Survival horror is such a popular genre in gaming, and we have yet another adventure with supernatural leanings to showcase in “Currently Kickstarting”.  U55 – End of the Line (http://www.kickstartadventure.com/home/currently-kickstarting-u55-end-of-the-line/) looks to be another great addition to the roster with not only crap-your-pants horror, but it also offers the use of a unique technology that can make your blood curdle with feelings of fear and anxiety if done right.  Get ready to experience a subway ride that you won’t soon forget.  Read on if you dare.
Title: Re: Other Kickstarter Projects
Post by: alexkidd on August 28, 2013, 12:21:48 AM
Quote from: Blackthorne on August 23, 2013, 09:35:46 AM
Yeah, Fran Bow looks really interesting.  Almost like a bit of Edward Goery come to life - I have to be honest, it's really not my taste, but the creators have made something special here.  It made it's goal, and it continues to go on, so that's super awesome!

I usually stay away from gore unless it's a B-horror movie  ;D
But like you said this is something special. The game is based on Natalia's painful childhood and from what I read  creating the game has been a therapeutic experience. So it seems to be much more than a 'horror' game.

@Intendant S
I decided to back Fran Bow hehe

 
Title: Re: Other Kickstarter Projects
Post by: Intendant S on September 20, 2013, 02:33:58 PM
What do you get when you take a potbellied exterminator, a purple bear bard, and the most nastiest slugs you’ve ever seen and put them together in a 2D point-and-click adventure game? Why, you get the continuing saga of Reemus and Liam, that’s what.  Enter The Ballads of Reemus 2 (http://www.kickstartadventure.com/home/currently-kickstarting-the-ballads-of-reemus-2/), another game being Kickstarted that started its life as a Flash-based adventure on the likes of Newgrounds  (http://zeebarf.newgrounds.com/)and Kongregate (http://www.kongregate.com/games/zeebarf).
Title: Re: Other Kickstarter Projects
Post by: Intendant S on September 26, 2013, 03:57:19 PM
In space no one can hear you scream.  Which might not be a good thing in the case of the newest addition to the action-adventure stable of games trying to get funded through Kickstarter.  Take Europa 2022 (http://www.kickstartadventure.com/home/currently-kickstarting-europa-2022/), a blend of traditional point-and-click adventure with the more “actiony” elements that can be found in the likes of Heavy Rain or Uncharted.  Toss in a liberal dose of sci-fi horror and you’ve got the makings on a unique gaming experience.
Title: Re: Other Kickstarter Projects
Post by: Intendant S on October 06, 2013, 01:04:52 AM
Imagine taking a hand-crafted world and turning it into an amazing side-scrolling adventure. Knite & The Ghost Lights (http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/2011341880/knite-and-the-ghost-lights) delivers a mixture of adventure, storytelling, and action from games we know and love like Metroid and Castlevania, but with a completely fresh feel for today’s gamer.
Title: Re: Other Kickstarter Projects
Post by: Intendant S on October 25, 2013, 06:09:06 PM
One aspect of adventure games, or really any game at all, that’s important to the playing experience is music.  It helps to breathe life into the story.  But, few actively pursue it as a central theme.  Enter Bolt Riley (http://www.kickstartadventure.com/home/currently-kickstarting-bolt-riley/), a story of reggae music and finding one’s place in society.  Working your way up to being a legend is the name of the game here.  And it looks like a great take on the genre.
Title: Re: Other Kickstarter Projects
Post by: sickfiction on October 26, 2013, 05:35:26 PM
I really want to like this. I just hope it doesn't turn into a huge stereotypical Jamaican game complete with ganja and people saying "yeah mon" I didn't notice any black faces on the team either. I just hoping they stick to a great story and have great music. The art looks beautiful so far but part of me feels like I'm gonna cringe at the dialog
Title: Re: Other Kickstarter Projects
Post by: MusicallyInspired on October 26, 2013, 10:51:59 PM
Cyan (makers of Myst and Riven) are making a brand new first person explorative adventure game with the Unreal 4 engine. "Obduction (http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/cyaninc/obduction)" is on Kickstarter and is already 55% funded (with a goal of $1.1m with 11k backers at the moment) with still 20 days to go.

I've been waiting for a new game from Cyan for a long time. I love everything they do. I think it was smart to not do just another Myst sequel, but we need more games with Myst's style and atmosphere!

(https://s3.amazonaws.com/ksr/assets/001/050/123/51545b089630a2f862c9357d7a264a0e_large.png?1381463027)
(https://s3.amazonaws.com/ksr/assets/001/050/156/8d35484da5cfebd13d61950ae8b61c3b_large.png?1381463091)
(https://s3.amazonaws.com/ksr/assets/001/050/293/ba1de66ead208d60e42eff1e3cdbface_large.png?1381463405) (http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/cyaninc/obduction)
Title: Re: Other Kickstarter Projects
Post by: Intendant S on February 13, 2014, 03:11:35 PM
Steampunk is a genre that doesn’t get as much love as it deserves. Like its cousin, cyberpunk, it deals with themes of advanced technology (for its time, at least) and with the plight of a downtrodden people, forced to live in disgusting and poor conditions, while the upper class lives off of wealth. Unlike cyberpunk, though, its generally represented in a past setting (usually in the 1800s) instead of the near future. Enter Blackmore (http://www.kickstartadventure.com/home/currently-kickstarting-blackmore/), the latest in an ever increasing stable of crowdfunded adventure games and paying homage to this underutilized subsection of science fiction storytelling.
Title: Re: Other Kickstarter Projects
Post by: Lambonius on February 13, 2014, 03:15:16 PM
Quote from: Intendant S on February 13, 2014, 03:11:35 PM
Steampunk is a genre that doesn’t get as much love as it deserves.

Really?  I feel like it's one of the most overdone aesthetics ever.  ;)  Different strokes for different folks I guess.  I'm always happy to see any quality new adventure games.
Title: Re: Other Kickstarter Projects
Post by: Blackthorne on February 13, 2014, 03:23:47 PM
Yeah, I feel like Steampunk's visibility as a genre is at an all time high, really.  Even my wife knows what Steampunk is, and she doesn't know any nerd genre stuff!!

Bt
Title: Re: Other Kickstarter Projects
Post by: Intendant S on February 13, 2014, 03:56:53 PM
Okay, maybe it's not as rare as I make it out to be, but I still love to see anything 'punk (cyber or steam) released.
Title: Re: Other Kickstarter Projects
Post by: Blackthorne on February 13, 2014, 04:36:43 PM
I enjoy both! What I would like to see is a Cyber-Steam Punk environment!  Blade Runner meets Final Fantasy VI!

Bt
Title: Re: Other Kickstarter Projects
Post by: DrSlash on February 13, 2014, 04:57:47 PM
Quote from: Intendant S on February 13, 2014, 03:56:53 PM
Okay, maybe it's not as rare as I make it out to be, but I still love to see anything 'punk (cyber or steam) released.
Don't forget about clockpunk and teslapunk!
Title: Re: Other Kickstarter Projects
Post by: Blackthorne on February 13, 2014, 05:41:18 PM
Malcolm McLaren is grinning in hell with the use of the word "punk" these days!


Bt
Title: Re: Other Kickstarter Projects
Post by: Ilyich on February 13, 2014, 06:17:52 PM
Quote from: Blackthorne on February 13, 2014, 04:36:43 PM
I enjoy both! What I would like to see is a Cyber-Steam Punk environment!  Blade Runner meets Final Fantasy VI!
Bt
Yes, please make "The Diamond Age" videogame, world! :)

Quote from: Lambonius on February 13, 2014, 03:15:16 PM
Really?  I feel like it's one of the most overdone aesthetics ever.  ;) 
While I'll agree that it's one of the more prominent alternative aesthetics, I don't think it's overdone by any stretch of the imagination. But I would be delighted if you prove me wrong by listing a bunch of really good steampunk games/movies/novels. ;)

Oh, and yeah, Blackmore looks pretty nice, shame they haven't prepared any screenshot mock-ups so far.
Title: Re: Other Kickstarter Projects
Post by: Intendant S on February 13, 2014, 06:32:35 PM
Cowboys and Engines is a cool looking take on the genre. I backed their Kickstarter: https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1865079920/cowboys-and-engines-a-steampunk-western (https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1865079920/cowboys-and-engines-a-steampunk-western)

And, of course, I'm a big fan of the comic Girl Genius: http://www.girlgeniusonline.com/ (http://www.girlgeniusonline.com/) (I'm quite a bit behind on that one, though).

But, I can't really give a long list of steampunk titles, though.
Title: Re: Other Kickstarter Projects
Post by: Corrigan on February 13, 2014, 06:57:52 PM
I particularly like ska punk and post hardcore emotive punk.
Title: Re: Other Kickstarter Projects
Post by: Klytos on February 13, 2014, 07:32:23 PM
I like the sex pistols.
Title: Re: Other Kickstarter Projects
Post by: Blackthorne on February 13, 2014, 09:05:55 PM
Quote from: Ilyich on February 13, 2014, 06:17:52 PM

Oh, and yeah, Blackmore looks pretty nice, shame they haven't prepared any screenshot mock-ups so far.

Yeah, this is my only problem with Blackmore - great concept art, but really no indication of what the actual game would look like.  I like the art, though, a lot.


Bt
Title: Re: Other Kickstarter Projects
Post by: Intendant S on February 14, 2014, 12:37:22 AM
I think they're planning on revealing some stuff soon in an update.
Title: Re: Other Kickstarter Projects
Post by: s_d on April 03, 2014, 07:07:41 PM
New Tank Girl:
 
https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/332295438/21st-century-tank-girl-a-book-by-hewlett-and-marti (https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/332295438/21st-century-tank-girl-a-book-by-hewlett-and-marti)

Overfunded already & probably doesn't need any help though.  They even made her ship look like a giant veiny dong.
Title: Re: Other Kickstarter Projects
Post by: Intendant S on April 08, 2014, 03:57:50 PM
Dystopian and post-apocalyptic titles are pretty commonplace in media in any form, and with good reason. It takes a bleak look at what the future could hold for humanity should it ever stray towards the path of self-destruction. A warning letter to future generations to get their act together, if you will. And to stand out in the crowd you’d need to have some something unique to get people to take notice of it. Dead Syncrhonicity (http://www.kickstartadventure.com/home/ending-soon-dead-synchronicity-2/) promises the standard trope and more. With a twist unlike any other that’s come before it.
Title: Re: Other Kickstarter Projects
Post by: Intendant S on April 12, 2014, 12:03:42 PM
“In 1945 a group of captured soldiers were placed in a POW camp and told they would never escape. Using their specialist skills, these man promptly devised a plan to attempt their most daring breakout yet.”

So if you can steal enough supplies,
and sneak past the guards,
and if you can get over the fence…

maybe you’re ready for…

The BREAKOUT! (http://www.kickstartadventure.com/home/currently-kickstarting-the-breakout/)
Title: Re: Other Kickstarter Projects
Post by: Intendant S on April 17, 2014, 01:23:13 AM
The tales of H.P. Lovecraft are timeless for those who enjoy a good horror story. And with good reason. His stories have inspired generations that have come after him just as Edgar Allan Poe had influenced his writing. Delving into many aspects of what makes a person lose their mind and drawing from their deepest, darkest fears is what brings people back to classics like the Cthulhu Mythos. And the latest game to tackle these themes is The Eldritch Cases: Dagon (http://www.kickstartadventure.com/home/currently-kickstarting-the-eldritch-cases-dagon/), an adventure game that sets its sights on one of the most iconic villages ever put to pen by the seminal author.
Title: Re: Other Kickstarter Projects
Post by: DrSlash on August 02, 2015, 08:07:29 PM
https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1988474932/foxtail (https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1988474932/foxtail)

Looks beautiful, somewhat Kyrandia-like.