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This is great to hear, BT.  Thanks for the updates.

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Ultimately, it behooves BT more than anyone to get it done.  No more product sitting in his house, no more stressing over it, and no more people busting his chops.  Seems like a wise course of action to me.

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@Blackthorne, seriously man, if I lived near you I would volunteer to assist with shipping just to get it off your plate.

A question, the Companions on Amazon, are those from you guys or a third party?  Can you utilize Amazon fulfillment for the Companions at this point?

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Yeah, comments were not cool and clearly he's not a true fan.  My box will be right there along side all of the Sierra greats, right where it belongs.

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MusicallyInspired, you fanboy hard.   ;)

Come on, guys.  You don't find it the least bit odd that after over a years worth of shipping we have little to no evidence of it?  I did some digging and all I found was this:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Quest-For-Infamy-Extremely-Ultra-Rare-Physical-Copy-w-Game-cd-and-Manual-/282134789420

The guy even talks about all this in the description.

So with the post on Kickstarter that's one game and one companion accounted for.  You don't find that odd?

No posts on the forums of "Got my physical copy!  check out this badassness!", no unboxings, no reviews on Youtube, it's weird.  I know our community is small but I don't think it's that small.

All I'm saying is it doesn't add up.

I'm right there with you guys with the other campaigns and I've been burned a number of times myself.  I guess I just really don't want this to be one of them, in any part of the campaign.  I have to disagree that the rewards aren't important.  The rewards dictate the pledge.  To offer up something to encourage people to spend more money and then not follow through is dishonest and wrong.  I'm not saying that is happening here at all.  Just that it is an important factor of the whole process and it's probably the factor that gets campaigns funded more often than not.

As an aside, the Companion is now available through Amazon.

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It appears that you guys aren't reading my posts.  Let me try again.

Time. Is. Not. The. Issue.

If they were still working on the game I'd be fine with that.  If the physical rewards weren't done yet I'd be fine with that.  If Blackthorne said rewards aren't being shipped because of whatever, I'd be fine with that.

What I'm not fine with is telling people that their rewards will ship tomorrow or on the weekend, or next week and then not doing so.  Don't tell people you are going to do something if you have no intention of doing so or are unable to do so.

As to all this defense of the difficulty of shipping stuff, I don't buy it.  I've sold on eBay for years and I've easily moved 25+ packages in a week by myself.  Doing so while working a full time job, family, having a life, etc.  An hour or two worth of time in the evening preparing packages and mailing them on my lunch hour the next day.  If eXoScoriae's calculations are correct and using an average of 10 packages a week, everyone would have their items by now.

The only conclusion that seems to make sense is that they ran out of money which is quite feasible if they did underestimate the cost of fulfillment.  That being said, I even offered to pay for my shipping and suggested that they offer it to the backers as an option to help easy the burden but received no response.

Please understand, I don't want to be making these posts and I do think that Steven is a stand up guy that is most likely in over his head with the fulfillment but the empty promises being made to people is in very bad form.

If it's not happening, don't tell people that it is.  Simple as that.

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Now that mister completely missed the point got his rant out we can move on.

The issue isn't how long it's taking.

The issue is that we are being told things that aren't happening. 

We have been told since September 2015 that packages are going out and a number of us have been told personally that our packages are being sent. Yet, with the exception of one person claiming they got their companion, no one has posted here, on Facebook, or Kickstarter saying they have received their rewards. If a large number of the packages have been sent, which the updates on Kickstarter claim, surely we would have heard about it long before now.

It also doesn't help that Blackthorne has gone silent as of late.

I'm open to the idea that I'm completely wrong, and I hope I am, but it sure doesn't seem that way.



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Posting here since we are receiving no feedback through the Kickstarter page.  Here is a transcript of the last bit of information, notice the dates.

Paskarl (k0SH) on October 20
ANY UPDATE ON SHIPPING 'Quest For Infamy' and 'The Quest For Infamy Companion - Art/Strategy/Hint Book' ??? :(

eXoScoriae on October 24
Nope. No updates. Maybe in January we will get another update telling us about how hard it is to be a dad and a responsible adult at the same time.

Steven "Blackthorne" Alexander 3-time creator on October 24
I'm mailing them out, one at a time, as I get to them - sending out a few a week. I did speak to Paskarl about this personally on FB, I only saw this message today. Packages are going out, I don't really have anything more exciting to update that to say that. Yours should arrive soon. Don't worry, in January I'm sure I'll have something new to tell you, but sarcasm duly noted.

eXoScoriae on October 25
What do you expect? You've had the boxes for over a year.
September 2015 - Yay, the boxes are here!
January - I'm sending out a few each day.
April 1st-20th - Boxes are being sent every day
July 18th - Your boxes are going out soon.
I just went and added up the number of people who pledged at tiers that included the physical dvd and/or the big box. I came up with 375 (rounding up).
If you had sent even 1 game a day since they came in, you would be done by now. So your claim that you are sending a few every day is bull.


Helmishgen on October 27
Steven, a suggestion if I may. Ship to eXo Scoriae or Paskarl or myself, we will then post here that we have received and that should, at the very least, let those who look for info here know that packages are in fact going out. I know there are only us vocal few who are still posting here but the fact that no one has posted stating they have received their items is concerning.

Steven "Blackthorne" Alexander 3-time creator on October 27
Right, probably because they aren't checking back here - I'll make sure to send your packages out next. I'm sending out some tomorrow (Friday) and I will specifically send your packages. I'll send you guys receipts and pics via PM tomorrow afternoon.

Helmishgen on November 13
Well, over two weeks have gone by since the last post made by Steven. In said post, he claimed he was going to send packages out to a few of us, myself being one of them. Also mentioned he would send receipts, pics, and PMs. I received none of those and, of course, have not received my package. I have been patient for quite a long time now and attempted to give Steven every benefit of the doubt but I can no longer say that. I have reached the point where I have to consider that shipping is not actually happening as he claims and that it is possible that said packages don't even exist. Steven and the crew are all very talented individuals who delivered a great game as promised. But after being told personally that my package was to be shipped plus evidence of said shipping and receiving none of that, I can't help but think that I am being lied to. That we all are being lied to. At this point, I highly doubt I'll ever receive my physical rewards. I hope at least some of you do.

Paskarl (k0SH) 6 days ago
"I have been patient for quite a long time now and attempted to give Steven every benefit of the doubt but I can no longer say that. I have reached the point where I have to consider that shipping is not actually happening as he claims and that it is possible that said packages don't even exist. "
SADLY, have to agree.
NO ONE on FB or here EVER posted a pic of receiving a package.
But a lot have already sent out if we believe in what was told over and over again.
Last "next week 100% sure" message is again many weeks old.
This STINKS a lot and I'm done with excuses all over again.
Seems that money is lost once and forever :(


I hate having to post this and I don't care for the fact that eXoScoriae made it a bit personal but we don't believe that we are getting the full story or, in the worst case, being lied to.  None of us have received our physical copies as promised by Steven in the above interaction.  No PMs, no tracking, and no updates.  It would be one thing if we were still lumped in with the general "they are shipping" updates but in this case we were told specifically that our packages would be mailed so we could be vocal and help put minds at ease about whether or not packages were being sent out. 

Didn't happen.

I don't know what else to do.

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