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The new comcast ISP data cap blues
« on: November 01, 2016, 09:08:34 PM »
Weeelllll

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so today in usa, comcast ISP has a new 1tb data cap, if you go over this limit they charge 200$

mind you this includes tv

while 1tb might seem like alot, comcast now has 4k tv boxes coming out in January
this means you can only stream 2.5 hrs of tv per day, or you will go over the limit

to install say windows 7 pro and updates, then drivers
and 5 AAA steam games or gog titles you already use abouy 800GB of data

in the upcoming months EVERYONE will violate that 1TB due to tv.. 4k tv's becoming a new standard now.
4k maps in games like cod etc

lame comcast seems to have numbers pulled out of their rear
16,000 hrs of online play (bs)

they dont say if thats minecraft..(which takes almost no bandwidth)
or cod with 4k maps (which takes a butt load)

so couple tv and new steam VR games or say even the witcher 3 which sits around 150GB with its dlc and patches... well
wtf comcast..

ack

anyone feeling this burn yet?
as I just reinstalled my os and AAA titles like dishonored 2 soon and such
already day 1 reached my limit, and thats without PRON!
wtf comcast!

   
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Re: The new comcast ISP data cap blues
« Reply #1 on: November 05, 2016, 02:28:04 AM »
Ok, data limits suck monkey balls, however 1 tb is quite a bit. This is the first I have heard of it and I've been a comcast subscriber for years. I personally pay over 150 a month for cable and Internet, so if they want to strangle me I will switch to verizon. When I ran my buisness I payed 300 a month for the fastest available Internet no limits. So we will see if they try and dick me over. So feel your pain Kaldire. Chadly.
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Re: The new comcast ISP data cap blues
« Reply #2 on: November 05, 2016, 04:22:37 AM »
I'd feel bad for you but I simply can't get unlimited plans in Australia, everything is capped. Mine is quite high at 1TB and I pay $120 a month, which is just the internet. Therefore I understand your pain, I just can't feel it :) Although charging for excess is total bullshit. Mine gets throttled down to 1mb/s (or I can buy a data pack of 10GB for $15).
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Re: The new comcast ISP data cap blues
« Reply #3 on: November 05, 2016, 10:34:13 AM »
It's strange that here in America, where we live in a digital age that companies would limit usage, or make the consumer pay more for going over a set limit.  We live digital age, that for many are their lives.  For example, I shop online, pay my bills online, play games online, etc. With that said for many the Internet is a necessary part of life. (not me I can remember when it didn't exist)  Everything in moderation. :)

  Also here is America land the new fad is bundling. Get cable, Internet, and Phone service for the LOW LOw price of $99 a month plus taxes and fees.  Hell if you want to bundle yourself buy a Snuggie, basically a blanket poncho, for 20 bucks.  They look ridiculous, but they will keep you warm. ;)
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Re: The new comcast ISP data cap blues
« Reply #4 on: November 05, 2016, 04:42:40 PM »
actually 1tb
isnt alot

if you mean for just 1 person maybe

but having a daughter streaming netflix on her insane iphone alone  is only about 10 hrs of tv on her phone per day and in 10 days im over limit

thats just her

imagine a family of 4-5   mom is in kitchen on youtube streaming watching how to cook,  son is on xbox, downloading games and playing online  4k tv streaming etc..  daughter is in room binge watching walking dead or AHS etc and dad like me is installing dishonoroed 2 (65GB) and GTAV (60GB)
you just chewed through 1tb in about 6-10 days

again netflix is suing comcast AGAIN (for the third time) to remove all data caps, and just slow the speed down as mentioned, thats what cell phones do

also no one knows about this.. its hidden.. most dont find out from comcast until mid nov when they hijack your phone or browser with a popup saying you used 80-90-100-125% of your limit  125%??? thats already a 200$ extra bill

not to mention again that 1gigabit net is a standard here come jan-feb and 4k boxes for tv roll out,
netflix projected a 50-60% loss in revenue.. over the next 7-8 months due to the cap

originally it was only 300GB  thats installing gtaV 5 times, thats it.. your limit is reached
(not that you would install it 5 times just think of other games)

so i install bf1, witcher3, cod (new one), dishonored 2, and gtav and blam im far over 300gb. and punching to 50% of my 1tb.. thats again
WITHOUT PORN OR TORRENTING. etc.

sheesh

and in my area there is no other isp
only dsl dial up stuff..
verizon doesnt cap, but they arent in my area

at&t is the other other option and ughh no

once the 4k gen hits.. comcast knows far more than 1% (as they claim) will be using over 150GB a month for a house hold of FOUR.
thats about 40GB per person.. per month..
oops i went over cause I installed 1 game and its updates

oops i went over since my os went down and needed to do win 7 updates and drivers + 3 games.

ack
oh hells no

if you want fun google  comcast 1tb datacap CRAP or netflix fcc comcast, or netflix fcc datacaps

funny since netflix is a partner to comcast and suing them. again for the third time now

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Re: The new comcast ISP data cap blues
« Reply #5 on: November 05, 2016, 04:45:29 PM »
edit :
like right now.. its the 5th  1:44pm here
and Ive used 189GB data, just installing games and their updates.

waaaahh thats only 4 days into the month

and without my kid streaming.
and no torrenting (I dont do this havent for years)

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Re: The new comcast ISP data cap blues
« Reply #6 on: November 05, 2016, 04:46:19 PM »
Well ok 1tb might not be A LOT for a family of four, or two. However there are four in my family.  Data Caps suck as ive said before, however if you try and look at it from comcraps ppoint of view and they have million of customers and have to provide bandwith on thousands of servers.....  Not that im defending them.  I stream a couple movies a week, download win updates, play online games as well.  If they hit me with a massive increase to my already 150 plus bill I cancel service.  I live in a small city (10000 people), but can get  Verizon or local wifi Internet if I have to.  ITs all bullshit, I bought my own modem and highspeed router instead of using Comcast's shit equipment that they charged me 20 bucks a month.  My gear surpasses my Internet speed.  This increase or cap wont last long once they start losing customers. ;)
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Re: The new comcast ISP data cap blues
« Reply #7 on: November 05, 2016, 05:03:16 PM »
Ok, if you have all your games and such on the cloud then yes 1tb isn't a lot.  I don't use the cloud I use external hard drives and flash drives.  I just think its all bullshit to make even more money than they already do.  Its kind of like paying not to watch comercials on YouTube, that's 10 bucks a month but you get other services included. OR Amazon Prime which I use a lot. Don't mind paying for something I use a lot, but to get double dipped for data when I pay a small fortune a year for service burns my ass!!!! >:(
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Re: The new comcast ISP data cap blues
« Reply #8 on: November 05, 2016, 05:43:20 PM »
Well ok 1tb might not be A LOT for a family of four, or two. However there are four in my family.  Data Caps suck as ive said before, however if you try and look at it from comcraps ppoint of view and they have million of customers and have to provide bandwith on thousands of servers.....  Not that im defending them.  I stream a couple movies a week, download win updates, play online games as well.  If they hit me with a massive increase to my already 150 plus bill I cancel service.  I live in a small city (10000 people), but can get  Verizon or local wifi Internet if I have to.  ITs all bullshit, I bought my own modem and highspeed router instead of using Comcast's shit equipment that they charged me 20 bucks a month.  My gear surpasses my Internet speed.  This increase or cap wont last long once they start losing customers. ;)

mate
youre view is that they need the bandwidth ? hahahahaha
they offer UNLIMITED up and down for 50$ more, if bandwidth was the issue.. they wouldnt offer that
this is a scam
and no you dont look at it from comcasts view

when i say netflix is and has sued comcast (partner) twice and is on a third you know some serious shit is wrong.

ive been with comcast 17 years, never was there data anything, no  one in usa knows what they use.. i bet you dont truly

even my mum uses more than 1tb a month and she is 72 years old (she streams netflix behind her bookeeping and just listens to it.)
she was at 1.2 tb last month..

comcast isnt doing this for revenue if its only 1% or less of consumers as they claim
this is netflix and the fcc's point

its foresight
to know that almost half of comcast users will go OVER that limit and not even know it
esp once the next gen hw comes out in jan-feb 2017

urmm mate no one i know uses physical disks anymore, steam   gog etc are all digi cloud based.
you cannot possibly suggest to gamers to get a raid stack and install all games to that and never download them again.

heck even physical PC CE boxes require digi dl and activation for dlc and updates.
even if you use the discs

my net atm costs me 69$ a month for 250mbit net
but with that will come a 200+ addition. 269$ for net.. is nuts in usa..
esp when they KNOW more than 1% or less will go over it

hence the fcc ruling.. again imagine the original cap comcast tried 300GB! 300!!
wwwaahh

again the bottom line is this
most americans dont know how much data they use, period (and they arent informed by comcast even now)
most americans are finding out this news from yahoo or google feeds not from comcast

most claim they dont use even close to 1tb and when they are asked to look they are near or OVER that limit and have been for years.

sooo yeaaaaa
goo team usa

 
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Re: The new comcast ISP data cap blues
« Reply #9 on: November 05, 2016, 05:57:26 PM »
ok, I concede your points mate.  However I do use external hard drives and flash drives.  Every GOG game I ever purchased is backed up to said drives.(even tho I know I can always redownload them)  Most games I buy are DRM free, I Don't use Steam a lot.  Flash drives and externals are cheap, as I own 30 to 50 flash drives and about 10 external HD.  In the long run, yes cloud based storage is great but I prefer to physically have copies of all my games and O.S's.  Even tho this view is going the way of the dinosaur.  And no I don't truly know how much my household uses in downloads a month, a guess would be about 500 gb.  For instance Win 10 home Edition is 25 gbs roughly, as I sell it at my place of business. To buy a physical copy on a flash drive is about 200 bucks.  When I sell a computer I tell my customers to make the recovery media on a 32 gb flash drive. And yes Win 10 sucks ass. ;D
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Re: The new comcast ISP data cap blues
« Reply #10 on: November 05, 2016, 06:03:43 PM »
Switching gears here.  I own a UHD tv, for which I can get little to no programing for until jan feb?  I went to a local Electronics store and saw a NEw Samsung SUHD tv 8000k res. Awesome, but pointless right now.   As I type this I am using an UHD monitor that my graphics card doesn't come close to pushing to its limits.  All this shit going on right now makes me want to scream, and that's not including the upcoming election!!!!!!! :( :-[ :P Chadly
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Re: The new comcast ISP data cap blues
« Reply #11 on: November 05, 2016, 09:01:10 PM »
http://www.slashgear.com/comcast-is-rolling-out-data-caps-because-it-doesnt-want-to-compete-08459248/

"In many areas around the US, that’s already the case. If you’re upset by this 1TB cap and you think you’re going to switch providers to teach Comcast a lesson, good luck. The truth of the matter is that in many of Comcast’s markets, it doesn’t have to worry about consumers switching to another company that offers a comparable level of service because there are none."


"It’s true that Comcast hasn’t left us with many options here, but Comcast is definitely afraid of drawing negative attention of the FCC and, as we’ve already covered, it’s deathly afraid of having to actually compete. If enough of us can exercise either of those options, Comcast might be forced – either through loss of money or much-needed regulation – to change its tune.

Or you could always sit back and wait for the data cap to get smaller and smaller as Comcast continues to bleed you for more money. Your choice."
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Re: The new comcast ISP data cap blues
« Reply #12 on: November 07, 2016, 12:54:25 PM »
Here in Canada, I live outside of town so I don't get the two main providers. I got with a satellite provider which is super expensive for 240GB of data at 24mbps speeds (realistically, more like 11mbps) and if you go over, they don't throttle you they charge you $2/gigabyte. You can buy some extra data to top up, but that overcharge is brutal if you're not careful. Plus, like I said, charges are super high anyway on a good day. Meanwhile, 15 minutes away in town I hear they bumped up speeds to 170mbps for significantly less....sigh....

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Re: The new comcast ISP data cap blues
« Reply #13 on: November 08, 2016, 06:51:33 AM »
1TB isn't much. My provider has a deal with Netflix and a few other services that is quota free, which thank God for because I'd smash 1TB a month easily. Heck, just with game builds on our IQ servers I would use half of that a month uploading and downloading.
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Re: The new comcast ISP data cap blues
« Reply #14 on: November 09, 2016, 12:39:24 AM »
yep ..
tons of people that arent getting paid loads
do stuff like stream vids on youtube,
how to make this or that
or even game rants etc

comcast demands those consumers, and people like you pay the extra few hundred dollars for a business package..
ugh

facepalm..
go team usa and comcast

again with a family of FOUR, claiming 50gb-150gb even 150 they claim is only 1% of the comcast consumers (I call bs)

that stat is out of a butt hole in idaho fields somewhere

once a guy streamed
watchmyvcropsgrow

you could literally tune in each day to see how they grew that month or week
that farmer cant do that now!

etc

my kid used to sit on my wifi after her mobile data was up (not its unlimited due to this 1tb shit)
and binge watch tv shows on her iphone in HD
again only about 10 hrs of that for a week and you are almost half your 1tb

and again my mum is over 70 and she checked her data usage alone.. was over 1.2tb per month for the last 3 years (as she streams youtube behind her bookeeping for the noise)

tons of people will feel this
but no one is informed
so far its only if they are lucky enough to see it on yahoo or google news.
or if they HAPPENED to not throw out what looked to be garbage mail from comcast.

so until the 80% ratio is up, and browsers and xboxs and tvs and phones are hijacked with the comcast popup
not many will even know this exists.

ughh

so again dishonored 2 comes out soon, that alone is a 60gb install and apparently is estimated at being about 200GB after it decompresses sounds and music in raw format and then dlcs and updates

etc

ugh x 90

even people who got the retail CE PC box, get 1 dvd, and a code where they HAVE to install the rest from steam.. cant even use discs anymore.

seriously this needs to go away. and netflix again is still projecting a HALF profit loss by mid year 2017 after all the new gear comes out.

all that is a nono

imagine being netflix and saying uhh we will make HALF of what we did last year.. gulp
gooo team usa

and to the guy in canada.. ouchaa! thats worse than this bs. all that needs to vanish!
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